DMT and Alcoholism

[DisEmboDied]

For the last couple of years, most every time I smoke DMT, it tells me that the root of all of my problems is my drinking.

Now, I am not a traditional alcoholic in that I do not drink every day, but I binge drink (8-12 beers) every few days, so twice a week. This is enough to cause problems between me and my wife, and I many times go to work hungover and of course my production is waayy lower those days, it can also sometimes take 3 days to fully recover, whereby I then do it again. I like my beer (I stick to beer), but it does cause problems between me and the people outside of me.

So the DMT Gods tell me to stop drinking, that the root of my problems is my drinking. They have been telling me this for the last 2 years, but I have ignored them. I suppose if I believed 105% that they were real and not just my own mental influences, I would listen for sure, maybe. They told me last time that it was killing me and not to go back to them until I did, so I have not gone back yet. I used to have beautiful visions and was shown the wonders of the universe for years, now I am just lectured about my drinking.

I guess the main wonder I have is that I am stuck between listening to their/my ultimate wisdom and doing what they say, or me not doing what they say and keep on living my life as usual, but with facing some possible consequences. I want to be free yet I feel determined.

I guess it drives me crazy to think that higher dimensional beings control my life and tell me what to do, or that they have power to influence my actions or future, but I still want to live life with little or no consequences because I am such a free spirit, like dancing in the woods butt-naked for eternity free.

I know that stopping drinking is good for anyone, and that alcohol is the world’s ugliest and most dangerous drug, but it is just a bad habit that I have been doing for 20 years. In between my couple of hundred DMT trips I drank a lot (I was also in grad school), sometimes to help diminish my high dose mind f---s, to make them a little more palatable. I never drank during, just afterwards. After blowing my mind so many times, time after time, I guess I used it in an attempt to ground me, almost to hide or circumscribe my enlightenment, kind of disgusting eh?

It seems like I am stuck between what I want to do, and what they suggest or tell me to do, and it makes going there for the last while a real bummer….What do you think?, anyone else experience these types of similarities?

Love and Light My Friends

 

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I was a full on alcoholic for 20+ yrs. I drank every day. My first breakthrough with dmt eliminated the alcohol problem. It was an aya voyage I will never forget. Up to that point, I'd tried many times to quit drinking and even sought help from various treatment programs, including in-patient level hospital care. The amazing thing, imo, is how quickly and efficiently this addiction was eliminated.

It was as if dmt simply changed my brain chemistry. Like turning off a light switch, I woke up the next morning and felt no urge or need to drink that day. It's been months now and I haven't had a single drink. I believe the addiction is completely dissolved. I'm so confident about the healing that I think I would now be able to have a few drinks socially without slipping back into bingeville.

Obviously, my experience and results were much different than yours. I do hope dmt can help you with alcoholism as it helped me. Have you ever tried aya? I'm not suggesting my results would be duplicated for you, but it is worth a shot. I can't tell you how thankful I am to be free of that nasty disease...

 

[corpus callosum]

Theres a lot of paradoxical musings in your post;it also sounds like your pattern of drinking is affecting much of your life (ie binge, 3 days to recover, binge and repeat).

Insights which are wise are worth taking on board, be they from yourself or the putative "DMT Gods"; I don't get the part about you being inclined to act if you were "105%" sure the DMT Gods were real in preference to your own mental influences (which, IMO, are whats making you feel disquiet); you are the master of your path and you recognise you have a well-engrained bad habit and rather than being 'enlightened' (which requires action, not just empty sermons to yourself), you seem to be vacillating between pursuing the heavy road you are on and making a change for a spurious belief that you would then be subservient to the 'entities'.

What is it you really want?

Is the price you are now paying 'acceptable' to you?

 

[ymer]

I think you are looking for validation on why you should ignore the messages and keep drinking.

You already know the answer and it's up to you if you keep drinking or quit.

 

[null24]

Addiction can create all kinds of rationalizations. A nagging conscience and knowledge that it affects others may not be enough. Until you just cant stand it anymore, you are unlikely to change it.


Its up to you in the end.

 

[AcaciaConfusedYah]

DMT told me the same thing. I listened.


I ate a handful of mushies - spent the whole journey focusing on "NO MORE DRINKING. ALCOHOL MAKES YOU SICK. NO MORE DRINKING. ALCOHOL MAKES YOU SICK." over and over again. It wasn't a fun thing, but I didn't do it for fun. I go camping for fun, or go hunting edible mushrooms for fun. I use the plant and fungi teachers for self betterment. I realized that I had been using alcohol to wash away memories of/and resentments that I was clinging to. When I let go of all the self-resentments, and the crutch(alcohol), my life changed for the better.

I can't say that it will work for you, but it worked for me. I spent 4 months completely abstained from alcohol - after getting sick from drinking only one beer, on three different occasions.

After that, I felt that limiting myself FROM alcohol was only limiting me further. I Had learned the wisdom of moderation and self respect. I elected to lift my own curse. Now-a-days, I might drink a beer at a friend's house, I might not. It doesn't matter either way, cause I no longer "chase" the drunk. It's a different ball game, with new rules.

Good luck on your journey, my friend. Trust yourself. If you think experience from the spice comes from your own imagination, well.... then you are telling you that for a reason.

Much love.

 

[SKA]

For the last couple of years, most every time I smoke DMT, it tells me that the root of all of my problems is my drinking.

Now, I am not a traditional alcoholic in that I do not drink every day, but I binge drink (8-12 beers) every few days, so twice a week. This is enough to cause problems between me and my wife, and I many times go to work hungover and of course my production is waayy lower those days, it can also sometimes take 3 days to fully recover, whereby I then do it again. I like my beer (I stick to beer), but it does cause problems between me and the people outside of me.

So the DMT Gods tell me to stop drinking, that the root of my problems is my drinking. They have been telling me this for the last 2 years, but I have ignored them. I suppose if I believed 105% that they were real and not just my own mental influences, I would listen for sure, maybe. They told me last time that it was killing me and not to go back to them until I did, so I have not gone back yet. I used to have beautiful visions and was shown the wonders of the universe for years, now I am just lectured about my drinking.

I guess the main wonder I have is that I am stuck between listening to their/my ultimate wisdom and doing what they say, or me not doing what they say and keep on living my life as usual, but with facing some possible consequences. I want to be free yet I feel determined.

I guess it drives me crazy to think that higher dimensional beings control my life and tell me what to do, or that they have power to influence my actions or future, but I still want to live life with little or no consequences because I am such a free spirit, like dancing in the woods butt-naked for eternity free.

I know that stopping drinking is good for anyone, and that alcohol is the world’s ugliest and most dangerous drug, but it is just a bad habit that I have been doing for 20 years. In between my couple of hundred DMT trips I drank a lot (I was also in grad school), sometimes to help diminish my high dose mind f---s, to make them a little more palatable. I never drank during, just afterwards. After blowing my mind so many times, time after time, I guess I used it in an attempt to ground me, almost to hide or circumscribe my enlightenment, kind of disgusting eh?

It seems like I am stuck between what I want to do, and what they suggest or tell me to do, and it makes going there for the last while a real bummer….What do you think?, anyone else experience these types of similarities?

Love and Light My Friends

You're concerned that "the DMT gods are not real and really just other parts of your own psyche". Well let's assume these entities ARE other parts of your own psyche:
Surely that doesn't make them any less real or their message any less valuable?

And you say you "don't like the idea of higher dimentional beings telling you what to do and controlling your life" This is the unmistakable mark of your Ego who wants to have control and sees any outside influences as threats. But isn't it also your Ego that keeps you from realising what your drinking is doing to you? And what thus keeps you drinking?

So should you be listening to your Ego when it is driving you to self-destructive alcoholism? Or should you listen to higher dimentional beings( or perhaps your higher self) that are telling you you should stop destroying yourself and take better care of yourself?

If it's higher dimentional beings it's an outside influence. If it's your higher self it's an inside influence, but for now that doesn't really matter. What matters is:

Is this influence, that tells you to stop damaging yourself and take better care of yourself, not a good influence? Or do you think your Ego's habbits would lead you to live a happier, healthier life?


I sure know what I would choose for me, but you'd have to answer that question for yourself.

 

[112233]

. I suppose if I believed 105% that they were real and not just my own mental influences, I would listen for sure, maybe.

Sigh. Such a telling line. Who cares where the message is coming from? You know it to be True, so stop making BS excuses and stop killing yourself and destroying your marriage. Do not be so selfish. Beer is not worth your life; you already know this.

What is it about your life that you hate so much that you'd be willing to continue down a path steeped in Darkness and Despair? Willingly sucking down excessive amounts of poisonous amber liquid that does NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING for you whatsoever? Insanity. What is the definition of insanity? You get the idea.

You apparently need to hit rock bottom. Sink or Swim. So be it.

This has been a Tough Love service announcement from 112233; please do not be offended.

 

[Entheogenerator]

I guess it drives me crazy to think that higher dimensional beings control my life and tell me what to do, or that they have power to influence my actions or future...

Does it not drive you crazy to think that alcohol might control your life and have the power to [significantly] influence your actions and your future?

 

[hug46]

It seems like I am stuck between what I want to do, and what they suggest or tell me to do, and it makes going there for the last while a real bummer….What do you think?, anyone else experience these types of similarities?

Love and Light My Friends

It seems to me that you like drinking and you don"t want to give up yet inspite of your intenal/external thoughts/guilt. To know that certain actions that you take can be detrimental to you and yours is a no brainer but as to why you are doing it, and how to stop, can be a little more complicated. I don"t know your history or what has led you down this path but i wouldn"t beat yourself up about it. Being addicted is difficult enough when there are no end of excuses to carry on, not to mention the countless regrets. Being addicted and feeling guilty about it is worse. You will stop when you really feel that you need (or want) to give up.
Good luck on whatever you decide to do.

 

[livinglife]

If you stop your life will change to the better, it will be hard, it will haunt you, no sleep and so on. But in the end, it's worth it. But as long you have this issue in your life it will stop the growth of your personality. A sober life is a hight itself, it just takes time to balance the ball on the nail to find the sweet spot. I have been drinking for 7 years, a lot. It was hard, but when I look back on what it gave me and what I have now I would stop much earlier. It ruins your mind, so it takes a while to get back on the horse after a long relationship with Mr.Alcohol. My advice is to stop. Stay strong, stay healthy. Peace.

 

[spacexplorer]

Please stop drinking you are killing yourself

 

[Purges]

Both my father and my brother are or were alcoholics. My brother started in a similar way to you, getting wasted every weekend, then a.couple of times a week, then every single day. He wasted his whole 20s drinking ludicrous amounts of cheap alcohol. Like a litre of vodka per day. The changes I saw in him were drastic. Had he just stopped cold turkey at this stage, his body would have most likely just shut down and killed him. He spent 2 years in rehab, and is now dry coming on 10 years. I can't tell you how it feels to have my brother back.

My father has been poisoning himself for as long as I care to remember. Still is. He has become quite reclusive, doddery and his medical issues are mounting up now. Not least a few 'minor strokes' and fluid retention in the brain, which he will need an operation to remove. Brain surgery. Seeing loved ones go through this is hard.

You sound like you aren't too far gone on the road to poisonville, but nonetheless, you are on your way. There is nothing good waiting for you there. Whether the intelligence you meet 'out there' is you or something else is irrelevant, the message is what is important. You are being given a chance. You should take it.

Best of luck my friend.

 

[Orion]

Don't ever justify a bad habit, you need to be brutal on yourself to stop these things. I'm no expert but in breaking habits I have had the most success with recognizing and breaking larger patterns. Summon up your courage and break any patterns which help facilitate the main drinking habit. For example simply having nothing better to do- replace this with something else to take up the time, something you really enjoy.

In between my couple of hundred DMT trips I drank a lot (I was also in grad school), sometimes to help diminish my high dose mind f---s, to make them a little more palatable

This sucks. I wouldn't try to dampen hyperspace revelations with ethanol man, that's surely a sin in someone's book ? :!:

 

[AcaciaConfusedYah]

FWIW, I think you can do it. I believe in ya. If ya need help, or just need someone to talk to about struggling with alcohol, feel free to send me a PM. I'll help if I can.

 

[112233]

In between my couple of hundred DMT trips I drank a lot (I was also in grad school), sometimes to help diminish my high dose mind f---s, to make them a little more palatable

This sucks. I wouldn't try to dampen hyperspace revelations with ethanol man, that's surely a sin in someone's book ? :!:

Yeah, that's kind of like taking a sleeping pill then pounding some coffee.

 

[Kobranek]

DMT has helped me to realize my role in my alcoholism and I can safely say that I would still be a practicing alcoholic if I had avoided my integration from my experiences and the messages that I received from them.

As time goes by and still not indulging in any drinks for the past seven months after over fifteen years of heavy drinking the thread continues to unravel. My life has been and continues to be affected by alcoholism, it's pretty unnerving and heartbreaking to know that it is a life journey to beat this, its not over by a long shot. I'm starting to see how deeply engrained our society is with alcohol, my family included. I lost my dad to the disease going on eleven years, between that and my daughters birth going on three years I was deep into my drinking. That first mushroom trip that revealed myself to me and all the dmt trips following had the message that you speak of, to stop hurting myself!

My step-son has become an alcoholic and I'm currently struggling to accept my mothers alcoholism as she is very productive but nonetheless an alcoholic. I'm understanding how I was raised and how alcohol was a part of that at an early age and continues to impact me and those around me. I surely wouldn't have gotten help for myself if it wasn't for the death of my father, the birth of my daughter, then for my step-son to become affected. The cycle was just too strong for me to continue the insanity but things are going in a much better direction as I hope the best for you as well.

 

[ntwhtyouknw]

When I was sober for only a few months someone made a suggestion to me. That I should try and make it an entire year and then decide if my life was better without booze. He told me I could always go back to drinking if I wasn't satisfied with my life and I wouldn't miss out on too much in that length of time. Anyway, I made it a year and you know what? I realised at that point my quality of life had improved so much I couldn't imagine drinking again. I haven't drank in over three years.

The thing is when we are practicing alcoholics or addicts our brains or our egos are trained to keep us that way. We act like our binges are not a big deal and we quickly forget the turmoil we feel and put others through.

If you can put enough space between your self and the alcohol for long enough I can assure you your mind will come around. You will most definitely have a much more satisfying life. Those around you will be much happier as well. You will finally understand what you've been doing to yourself and your loved ones.

An LSD experience helped open my eyes to the severity of my situation. I knew in an instant how to stop. That was to just do it and stop trying. However ultimitely the decision is our own and no Entheogenic substance will do all of the work. We have to make up our minds that we are actually fed up with it and make necassary changes.

 

[DMTripper]

Listen to yourself.

It's quite obvious that you need to stop drinking.
And if you can't you need help.