DMT and THC

[Mask]

In the past when I've smoked DMT whether high or recently smoked it seems to hinder the experience for me does anyone else experience something similar?
The only way I can describe it, is that the sensation build up all the way to my head but It doesn't release or expand. It literally feels like I get blocked from the "blast off".
I plan on smoking DMT today for the eclipse event of course I'm nervous as always pre trip jitters and all that, I'm hoping that its a good experience I'm sure it will be despite my anxiety.
I just keep thinking that my experience might be hindered since I'm a daily smoker have been for years now... Now while the thought of slowing down/ quitting for a extended period has crossed my mind plenty, Sadly that day isn't today, by the time I actually get around to ingesting the DMT I plan to be a few hours sober so hopefully that would be enough.
However like I asked earlier has anyone experienced anything doing DMT while stoned.

 

[Sabnock1990]

I always have CB1 agonism going on, hasn't gotten in the way for me personally.

 

[Subtlevibrations]

I frequently use cannabis as padding for my changa, and have infused cannabis with residual spice from an extraction tray. I find cannabis together with DMT is incredibly calming and blissful.

IME there is not a connection between using cannabis regularly, and being denied breakthrough.

My understanding is that for some folks, those who experience paranoia when using THC in particular, tend to do better abstaining before/during DMT use.

What ROA are you using for your DMT? Are you weighing your doses? Maybe the difficulty is elsewhere.

Safe travels,
Sv

 

[pantostao]

Personally, as the previous commenters said, I don't have a problem with THC + DMT or any other psychedelics.

But, I've seen lots of people freak out on other psychedelics + weed, so I'd say It's better to stay away from it if you're not sure how it works for you, or If THC gives you paranoia

 

[Transform]

Over the years on here I seen more than a few reports that cannabis clouds the experience, and perhaps a few more that say everything works just fine for them with the combo. This looks a natural range of variation, I just hope you're not too disappointed to fall into the 'hasn't worked yet' camp.

For me, in over two decades of trying on and off, in various ways, to get a proper DMT launch, 99% of the time some small detail would get in the way and it wouldn't be anything like the more fantastic stories one hears. I suspect this is a product of my own qualities of mind, in particular a certain hypervigilance, and since this also had no relationship to whether I had consumed cannabis or not, I also suspect that some other people will be similarly… ~hindered in their powers of self-release, with or without cannabis.

If any of this seems to ring a bell for you, there's a video posted to our therapy section which I found incredibly helpful in gaining meaningful insight into aspects of my own situation. Maybe it will be helpful for you too?

Hoping you've had a fantastic experience viewing the eclipse, whichever way it went for you!

 

[Mask]

Personally, as the previous commenters said, I don't have a problem with THC + DMT or any other psychedelics.

But, I've seen lots of people freak out on other psychedelics + weed, so I'd say It's better to stay away from it if you're not sure how it works for you, or If THC gives you paranoia

Its not paranoia thats the issue, at least I haven't had any reason to believe that was the case.

 

[pantostao]

Did you get to try it during the eclipse? How was it?
I do think paranoia / overstimulation / anxiety all happen on cannabis, and they are more noticeable for me when I'm also on psychedelics.

I'm pretty used to it, and I can say "woah, relax, this is the weed talking" in the case it happens, but I would not advise this combo to newcomers.

to get a proper DMT launch, 99% of the time some small detail would get in the way and it wouldn't be anything like the more fantastic stories one hears. I suspect this is a product of my own qualities of mind, in particular a certain hypervigilance

That's exactly it, IMHO.

Maybe it isn't the right time to trip? Maybe it is, but I'm holding onto something, mentally? It's pretty difficult to tell.

 

[Subtlevibrations]

Its not paranoia thats the issue, at least I haven't had any reason to believe that was the case.

I wanted to ask one more time, just in case, because it does matter; are you weighing your doses? And what ROA (route of administration - like what kind of device) are you using?

I think the advice @pantostao and @Transform have offered you is both insightful and helpful. Timing matters. I have had DMT experiences that outright told me to just enjoy my life and not try to glean any insights through entheogens for a while. If there is a lot going on in your life, it can make it difficult to immerse yourself and let go.

 

[Transform]

Did you get to try it during the eclipse? How was it?
I do think paranoia / overstimulation / anxiety all happen on cannabis, and they are more noticeable for me when I'm also on psychedelics.

I'm pretty used to it, and I can say "woah, relax, this is the weed talking" in the case it happens, but I would not advise this combo to newcomers.



That's exactly it, IMHO.

Maybe it isn't the right time to trip? Maybe it is, but I'm holding onto something, mentally? It's pretty difficult to tell.

In my case I feel like it's partly an issue of fundamental wiring in the brain, so the "something" that one is holding onto is essentially a metaprogram. If there's a way of "tagging" minor disturbances as being acceptable maybe that would help - and I would say that's one of the things that all the various forms of ritual and pre-trip preparations are for. That would be a whole topic in itself, with a large amount of pre-existing material to explore. At its core, it's fairly simple, common sense even, but also not without a few paradoxes and pitfalls - something about a balance between wanting and acceptance, perhaps?

@Subtlevibrations raises the same point about timing - waiting can be a surprisingly good option, too!

 

[murklan]

Nice to read about your thoughts and experiences of THC and DMT (and psychedelics in general. The effects of cannabis has been quite extensively researched and now recently there's been a surge of studies on psychedelics. Now I haven't looked very deep but I don't think I've read much about the combination(s) of cannabis and psychedelics. Or do you know of any, more than what people write on forums?

For me regarding cannabis and DMT I have some thoughts around it.

When I first found out about DMT (and Harmalas) I felt that the experience was so different from the high/mind state i get from cannabis/THC that I didn't want to combine them. I felt that DMT + Harmalas were much more 'serious' and demanding then weed. I wanted the experience not to be occluded (and perhaps forgotten ) by the cannabis high. During several years and many many experiences of DMT + Harmalas I almost never combined it with cannabis. Only a few times, when I've had psilocybe mushrooms and cannabis and wanted to try DMT, it had happened.

During the years since I've getting to know DMT I also changed my relationship with cannabis. From using it perhaps one a week to every evening. This I suspect has together with my extensive experiences with DMT + Harmalas changed things on several planes.

I have a curiosity around seeing, mental images and hallucinations and dreams. THC is know for effecting REM-sleep and regular usage has the effect for many that they stop dreaming (or at least remember any of it). So also for me. And I've noticed that slowly my CEV's diminished, I found that mental images while on psychedelics also were getting less strong and vivid. I somehow feel that there might be a connection, that the process of dreaming is involved in the visions on psychedelics.

But it's not clear to me in what way they are connected. Just as a side note, I often take some cannabis while on mushrooms or LSD and that gives me a deeper experience, and also more visually active.

For some months this winter I only had THC one a week and when I had been getting back to dreaming (that was great!) I was curious if a DMT experience would be different. So I did try DMT + Harmalas a few times and mushrooms some time, I might have felt it a bit clearer. But I didn't have a lot stronger visions or CEV. But still, I think there is a relation there, at least for me.

 

[Jees]

THC is a DMT muffler for me, so I agree with the OP.
Seems people vary.

 

[Voidmatrix]

@Mask have you tried smoalking DMT with cannabis? If so, how was it? If not, try it out. Doing them together may give you the answer you're looking for by comparing to various circumstances of past experiences.

Cannabis doesn't seem to hinder DMT experiences too much for me. Every experience is different. There have been times where I've been very stoned and had very visual and intense experience, and times where I've been very stoned and with a near same amount of DMT had a less fantastic experience. That's just me though. For some I can see there being more regularity in their experiences.

One love

 

[Mask]

@Mask have you tried smoalking DMT with cannabis? If so, how was it? If not, try it out. Doing them together may give you the answer you're looking for by comparing to various circumstances of past experiences.

Cannabis doesn't seem to hinder DMT experiences too much for me. Every experience is different. There have been times where I've been very stoned and had very visual and intense experience, and times where I've been very stoned and with a near same amount of DMT had a less fantastic experience. That's just me though. For some I can see there being more regularity in their experiences.

One love

out of the 6 trips I have been high for about half of the experiences, but the difference between trips while sober and high are night and day, at least for me personally I tend to have a more intense experience when I'm sober. This last trip was not bad but I definitely didn't do enough, but it did help ease my anxiety going forward. I plan on experimenting more in the coming weeks and ill see how my experiences differ.