DMT and the connection with Plants

[anrchy]

So today i had an extremely amazing experience with DMT. I believe the entity, that i also believe has been there each time, interacted with me in a way that was so insane and out of this world that I dont even know how to explain it. Anyways it left me feeling this way...

That DMT gives us the ability to communicate with plants. This has always been a consideration of mine, and many many well known people McKenna included, have hypothesized this. But i was left with an affirmation, by this entity, as I slipped back to this place. This Entity('s) was not just one, but a combination of many.

This entity and I became aware of each other! I wish I had words to describe the way in which we were interacting. It was so crazy. Very fluid liquid like visuals/realizations. I almost want to go as far to say that the "main" entity was THE plant with which my DMT came from, and the other "little" guys were other plant entities/spirits from where they originate I do not know.

I also feel that this "main" entity has been with me each time I have had a dose. That it is trying to help me with this experience. Maybe it was assigned to me, maybe because its from this certain plant, I dont know but this was crazy.

I also took another dose 50 mins later that for some reason felt as if this entity had left or was not a part of this experience. Which kind of made me feel distraught. I also had other ideas swirling into my head about human existence and how we created this "life" and how were suppose to live, and how it may link to some of the problems in this world because we are not suppose to be held back by having to do so many things that mean nothing. (ie: going to work, paying bills, following rules ect.) And how those tethers we have implemented are causing depression, ADHD, and other issues. Anyways, input from you guys would be much appreciated. I am definitely getting better at conquering my pre dose anxiety. I feel Im ready to step up my dose again.

-anrchy

 

[۩]

If communication means:

—n
1. the act or an instance of communicating; the imparting or exchange of information, ideas, or feelings
4. a connecting route, passage, or link

Then simple observation (and scientific study) of plant life could be a form of communication. Hyperspatial observation would allow a broader spectrum of information and connections to be available.

In regards to your last paragraph, I also feel like a lot of 'problems' stem from environmental conditions. Really just an inevitable byproduct of the way this system works and doesn't. Has led me to meditate much on what optimal conditions would be, which in my opinion is self-sustainability.

Plants are a funny thing, being fractals of various abundances. So many different ways to work with them...

 

[anrchy]

And that is the definition I am meaning, of communication. I do agree with your statement about simple observation being a form of communication, but that only works in one direction.

In regards to your last paragraph, I also feel like a lot of 'problems' stem from environmental conditions. Really just an inevitable byproduct of the way this system works and doesn't. Has led me to meditate much on what optimal conditions would be, which in my opinion is self-sustainability.

I completely agree, my explanation was just a glimpse at a small part of the worlds problems. Seems like a rather incomplete statement now that i look at it.

I was still in the haze while I wrote this. lol

 

[simpledata]

It sounds live you've had a really interesting experience. Thanks for sharing it with us.

Even though we don't have any scientific evidence that points out to having the specific plant that our batch of DMT came from guides us through our journey, it is a really intriguing and amusing thought indeed.

 

[nen888]

..even with translucent extracts i can feel the 'spirit' of the plant who provided the DMT..i would love to be able to do controlled blind tests one day, but i can often tell which species the 'dmt' has come from..

the plants are really helping us..

I almost want to go as far to say that the "main" entity was THE plant with which my DMT came from

.. Hyperspace Fool, it's like that for me almost every time..
.

 

[anrchy]

One thing I can say is for sure that DMT has taught all of us, things are a little more complicated then we thought.

Either the entities we encounter are real in that they exist on their own with out our intervention or they are a part of us in some way. Whether that be a manifestation of our experiences or our understanding or a combination of the two. Or that they are an involuntary invention of our minds. Yet I sense intellect, I think atleast most of us do.

Has anyone come to the conclusion as to whether or not the sub breakthrough entities and breakthrough entities are of the same?

 

[simpledata]

I wonder if the experience would be different if the DMT is synthesized chemically instead of getting extracted.

 

[anrchy]

I've wondered what the experience would be like if you were to extract it from your own body and smoke it

 

[nen888]

I wonder if the experience would be different if the DMT is synthesized chemically instead of getting extracted.

..obviously this could be subjective (though i argue there was no possible cue/clue), but the one time me and two friends got to compare 98% pure lab synthesized DMT vs. 98% pure plant extracted, we all felt there was a difference..the plant extract seemed to have extra memories and/or an 'over-entity', as described by Hyperspace F..sorry, anrchy, in his experience..

i discussed this (along with very valid scientific skepticism from endlessness) in dimethyltryptamine polymorphism

anrchy (wow, sudden name change..cool) wrote:

I've wondered what the experience would be like if you were to extract it from your own body and smoke it

..an interesting hypothetical question i've asked before..i notice the majority of Nexians in a recent poll believe in the 'Soul'..
i personally believe there is 'memory' of some kind attached to all matter..
.

 

[anrchy]

You know that "hyperspace fool" and I are two different people right? I just found out the correlation.

 

[anrchy]

I wonder if the experience would be different if the DMT is synthesized chemically instead of getting extracted.

..obviously this could be subjective (though i argue there was no possible cue/clue), but the one time me and two friends got to compare 98% pure lab synthesized DMT vs. 98% pure plant extracted, we all felt there was a difference..the plant extract seemed to have extra memories and/or an 'over-entity', as described by Hyperspace F..sorry, anrchy, in his experience..

I have read many times of this being attributed to the spice containing other chemicals from the plant material. But you are referring to almost pure extract which would contain little to no other such chemicals. This is interesting I would like to see this studied more.

So if the labsybthesized DMT was only 98% what was the other 2%?

 

[nen888]

..anrchy wrote: (yeah, sorry, you're identical avatars fooled me)

I have read many times of this being attributed to the spice containing other chemicals from the plant material. But you are referring to almost pure extract which would contain little to no other such chemicals. This is interesting I would like to see this studied more.

So if the labsybthesized DMT was only 98% what was the other 2%?

..funnily enough, probably similar to the plant..2MeTHBC or similar ß-carboline..it seems to be a breakdown product of DMT (like the oxide is)
..most 2% extras would probably not make a noticeable difference, but some could, no 'spiritual' or David Bohm-theoretical-physics-type explanation involved..
.

 

[anrchy]

It's interesting really. There is something for sure that we have yet to be able to measure.

 

[anrchy]

I just now remembered something else from my second dose today. While I was peaked I was trying to "search" for this entity. And at some point during this the visuals were morphing around according to my will but all of a sudden it started moving towards my third eye. And actually attached itself to it and looked as if it were stuffing itself into my forehead and into my third eye. I told it "yes go ahead" and it continued to do so even more so.

I can't believe I forgot this as it was the only real amazing thing about this dose. I think my disappointment in not seeing the entity from before was heavy on my mind.

 

[autumnsphere]

Man!! This is crazy!

Just look at this quote from the "Been grinning from ear to ear since" thread:

After that i was immediately in front of another being. This one is indescribable, but it felt like it had some serious power. I was almost to timid to focus on it. The last thing i remember is a tunnel forming from what would be my forhead, and a giant being, (10 times bigger than i) stepping into my tunnel and absorbing what was coming out of me, and also sending info in. I wish so bad i could remember the messages. At the time, i remember feeling so lucky, and thankful. I just go blank from here on out. Alot happened. So much happened. When it was dwindling down, all i could think about was i didnt want it to end. I was in absolute aw. All i did was focus on what i had experienced the rest of the night, and felt like a champ doing it.

 

[anrchy]

I even read that post and never made a connection between the two. What would be even more crazy if it were at the same time we both experienced this

 

[anrchy]

What I can say though is that I don't feel as if I were receiving and information. But I didn't feel like it was taking any either. Maybe I'm being inhabited by an entity now. Maybe one was implanted into me.