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apostle11

apostle11

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Hello everyone been lurking around this site for quite sometime finely decided to make an account. I am fairly experienced with psychedelics and up until a couple weeks ago though I have never had a chance to try DMT. I got my hands on 1.4g pure white spice from 150g of mimosa and have begun my relationship w/this substance. I've only smoked 3 different times thus far the first out of a pipe and although it was very intense I right away knew that I had not broken through so to speak.... The same night I loaded as big of a bowl of 2/3 DMT/Cappi leaf changa as I could in my bong. Hit it once, twice, three times and a 4th it was as intense as anything could ever possibly be with 100% certainty.. Ive done it 1 other time since then that was equally intense.

The main reason for the post though is I get hardcore anxiety and a couple different times have loaded the bong up and have taken like an hour to try and get myself ready for the experience and I end up not going through with it....I'm not actively fearful of it and in all the experiences I never saw or felt anything particularly unpleasant... I am maybe giving it to much reverence due to literally doing 100+ hours of research/reading/watching of various things involving the spice before I actually got around to trying to get some. I am the type of person that wants as intense an experience as possible when I do shrooms I do no less than 5g and typically above 7g, I don't see the point of wading in the pool so DMT is right up my alley... I don't know what I am looking for but any thoughts or comments would be nice.
 
apostle11 said:
…I don't see the point of wading in the pool so DMT is right up my alley... I don't know what I am looking for but any thoughts or comments would be nice.
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Well… The deep end of the DMT pool is deeper than you can imagine. The main risk you take when going too far too fast is having an experience that leads you to not wanting to use DMT ever again. Don’t doubt that this can happen.

If you take it slowly and build a relationship, you’ll be able to see the potential for growth and healing more clearly.

There are a number of us here at the Nexus who have recently had experiences that were more intense than expected. I had an unanticipated extremely intense experience (using a low normal dose) almost 3 months ago, and I’m still working my way back. This happened after almost 200 prior breakthroughs.

Take it slow, or take your chances.

And welcome to the forum!
 
I agree with gibran about the taking it slowly and building a relationship with it, it's good advice =)

I too get incredibly nervous before taking a dose, your not alone and even people after hundreds of experiences still get it. I get so much anxiety my palms sweat and will take me up to 15 minutes before lighting the cone- sometimes needing to repeat to myself more intent for the experience, affirmations and mantras. I find these help calm me down a little. Affirmations I say in my mind, whilst a tad personal for me to share the exact lines, are usually along the lines of asking humbly for a positive experience of learning & light.

Whilst a lot of people understandably view DMT as a solitary experience preferring to be alone, I like to have someone experienced with psychoactives and very close to me to be nearby in case I need them... And if I'm feeling anxiety before the dose I can talk to them about it & it helps me. So if you have a very close friend into DMT or psychedelics who would make a good guide, you could keep it in mind?

I don't think you can honestly have " too much reverence " it is primarily a good thing that you respect the substance and understand the life changing, intense potential of the experience. Just understand that whilst the anxiety is quite natural, don't let it overcome you and focus on the beauty and potential for growth that it offers =)

peace
 
SWIM says that nothing will clear up constipation better than seriously planning to go for hyperspace. This after at least 50 breakthroughs and twice that in sub-breakthrough doses. She thinks working with the changa sounds like the perfect way to go. She likes to set aside 45 minutes and go slow with the changa, breaking through one or two times going progressively deeper.

It's similar to another anxiety reducing techniques of hitting a very small dose and using that to allow the anxiety to dissipate.

She considers going slow, especially when starting out, *very* important. When beginning, she got the idea that everyone needed 45+mg's to break through and so smoked 60mg's, forcing herself several times, since a hardhead with every other psychedelic. This led to the habituation of a panic response that took a lot of low-dose and changa work to get through.
 
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I agree with gibran about the taking it slowly and building a relationship with it, it's good advice =)

I too get incredibly nervous before taking a dose, your not alone and even people after hundreds of experiences still get it. I get so much anxiety my palms sweat and will take me up to 15 minutes before lighting the cone- sometimes needing to repeat to myself more intent for the experience, affirmations and mantras. I find these help calm me down a little. Affirmations I say in my mind, whilst a tad personal for me to share the exact lines, are usually along the lines of asking humbly for a positive experience of learning & light.

Whilst a lot of people understandably view DMT as a solitary experience preferring to be alone, I like to have someone experienced with psychoactives and very close to me to be nearby in case I need them... And if I'm feeling anxiety before the dose I can talk to them about it & it helps me. So if you have a very close friend into DMT or psychedelics who would make a good guide, you could keep it in mind?

I don't think you can honestly have " too much reverence " it is primarily a good thing that you respect the substance and understand the life changing, intense potential of the experience. Just understand that whilst the anxiety is quite natural, don't let it overcome you and focus on the beauty and potential for growth that it offers =)

peace
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Thanks for the posts so far especially this one...Thanks for suggestions I will be trying to go there tonight maybe I'll hit the changa slow get a feel for what each hit is doing and hopefully become increasingly comfortable with it.
 
Before I dose, every time, I lay out a blanket on my floor, and I sit. I sit and think for at least 10 minutes, sometimes even 20 or 30 minutes. This time beforehand has helped me IMMENSELY with my anxiety associated with the sacred salad.

Call it meditation, call it clearing you head, call it preparation....call it whatever you want...but for me this step is almost as important as smoking the spice itself
 
I sit now for a few minutes before going as well. Its not a a specific meditation just sitting quiet and thinking and not thinking.

I think about grounding, waiting to feel some sense of grounding with the earth.
Some kind of feeling of planting myself and mustering all the inner and outer strength i can concieve.

Think about being a strong grounded neutral consciousness ready and open for what ever comes.

Its funny the other day i was tangled with fear and trepidation and all kinds of nonsense before going in.
Eventually I broke through and as I was one with the carrier wave of information and that love feeling I thought to myself :
" what was all the trouble about ? "

That being said there is a reason to be vigilant and careful. Work your way up slowly, measure the dose.
 
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