DMT extraction gone wrong?

[4eyes12]

Hey guys, I recently embarked on my first DMT extraction. I followed the direction at this link : Erowid Mimosa (Jurema) Vault : DMT for the Masses

we started off mixing lye and water. 1500 ml of water and 100g of lye and we mixed that. then we added 100 g of mimosa hostilis powder. then we stirred and did all that stuff. we then proceded to put the black goop into two separate containers. one of the containers was glass and the other was a metal, non-stick pan. the glass mixture did fine and it s eparated well(we currently have it evaporating now). but the metal pan had some kind of reaction and started bubbling and had brown foam coming out of it. And it was extremly hot and it was smoking and stuff.

we are not really sure what went wrong but we suspect it was because we used a metal pan instead of a glass one. can anyone confirm this and explain why this happened? i uploaded a picture below.

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj62/jonnycow1/2011-10-20_19-05-24_167.jpg

 

[Simon Jester]

Less teflon, moar pyrex

Side note, possible alternative: Null program. Reduce to 0. Get some weed, a TV dinner and a cat. Resume program... You don not want to sell me deathsticks.

 

[InMotion]

I hate to say this my friend. You have it backwards. You are supposed to keep the solvent(naptha/limonene) and evaporate that, and discard the water/lye layer....

Also do not evaporate in metal pans. Do not put solvents in teflon coated pans, and never put lye solutions on metals.

wonderful

 

[۩]

Epic Fail!!!!!!

Never EVER use a teflon coated pan as an extraction vessel! I'm not sure what you were thinking with that one?!

You might want to read this and this.


PLEASE EXECUTE CHEMISTRY PROPERLY AND WITH MINDFUL PRECISION


I can barely understand your process that you did. I can clearly see you have no idea what you are doing. Do you realize you could be BLIND right now?

 

[I AM SWIM]

 

[universecannon]

on second thought....

 

[Simon Jester]

maybe extracting isn't for you, no offense


if you absolutely are dead set on trying this again:
the forum and wiki are your friends

Noman's tek - DMT-Nexus Wiki

This guy can't handle lye, obviously.

Use Lime or Tri-Sodium Phosphate in Pyrex, in a glovebox, under a fume hood, with nobody else within 5 miles of your location. Better yet, have rescue crews on standby. I'm not being a dick, really... Safety First! <.<

 

[athousandeyes]

Its not going to help this person to badger them. Yes, it was ridiculously irresponsible, but this chemical needs to be available to everyone, and the responsible way to go about getting this chemical is DIY. So, lets try to encourage proper lab safety, and to gently, yet firmly remind inexperienced chemists that this IS indeed chemistry, and the process, especially if done in kitchen utensils, is highly dangerous. But also, lets remind all non-chemists or those just aspiring to get high that this is not the venture for you. And these kinds of results come from such persons trying to undergo such. Happy extracting, self searchers! *I do not in any way condone illegal activities, undertake thus with the legality in mind.* 8)

 

[new kemist]

It pretty much look like you saucepan is from aluminium (whether coated with teflon or not)

Now
any hydroxide (as well as lye) do react with aluminium exothermicaly (releasing heat) and releasing hydrogen (that`s them bubbles)

I used to do that as a kid, well funny dissolving aluminium foil in concentrated sodium or potassium hydroxide then catching and burning hydrogen, quite cool as far as you now what you doing


Parrot sometimes using stainless steel containers during extraction but only when proceeding xtraction with weak bases such a calcium hydroxide or sodium carbonate.

He always dissolving lye in pyrex container, and then he just using empty spirit bottles, bear bottles, and instead of bakers empty gherkin jars, lmao. He tried not to heat them non pyrex glassware as there is always threat of it`s gonna shatter into pieces and if he has too heat them (when using naphta, not limonene or toluene) he is very aware of it and ready to deal with spillages or eventual fire hazard

DON`T use aluminium pots at all, is big NO NO !, that`s all I can say

 

[benzyme]

hydroxide ions in solution will oxidize aluminum, causing it to corrode.
use stainless steel, ceramic, or borosilicate glass.

 

[Awakened]

Not wishing to wade in being a newbie. However some of the replies to the OP seem a little strange.

Firstly one has to ask the question why the OP felt the need to transfer the water/lye mixture into 2 seperate containers?

It is not suggested to do this at all. I think the bigger question is to understand the steps the OP was doing. At the moment it seems that they have some basic steps wrong.

It is of course not good practice to put the water/lye/bark mixture into anything metal as it will react to it.

4eyes12, firstly welcome to the forum, there is a wealth of information, although it can be a little confusing to consume all in one go. The stickies are a great place to start.

Questions.

1. You say. "We mixed and did all that stuff" please can you be a little more specfic? BTW there is a great thread here about how to ask questions. Please be very detailed and give as much information as possible when posting questions and requests for help.

2. Why did you separate the water/lye/bark mixture into 2 containers at all? You, I assume, mixed it in a container large enough at the start, did you separate due to size of the container or due to getting the steps wrong.

3. You do not mention using a solvent to pull the DMT out of the water/lye/bark mix. Did you do this step?

4. What have you done with the mixture in the glass container? Have you actually managed to get DMT out of that mixture? Perhaps we have mis understood your post and we are assuming that you haven't followed the tek correctly.

It is for sure better to use glass or plastic that is HDPE. There is a symbol on the bottom that will let you know that it is HDPE.

Sorry if you feel that we are missing the point and that you have done everything ok and have already some nice spice. However your post doesn't give this impression.

Write soon!

:d

 

[athousandeyes]

Very good points, Awakened! I would just like to point out one thing, HDPE is all dandy if one isn't using milk jugs.There is a really good sticky about HDPE in the health and safety forum. Order lab grade HDPE-2 jugs!