entheogenic-gnosis
Rising Star
I never said anybody was wrong, I simply said "for me, this is how it is"
Regardless if you personally thought it was the least like death, this was my interpretation...well, not just mine, it's a very common interpretation spanning back millennia, "aya" means "dead" , "soul" , "ghost" or "spirit" and "huasca" means "vine" in quechua, it's the "vine of the dead/spirits" or "the vine that give you access to spirits/the dead/death"
I've also had two experiences where I had died, I was revived both times after a short period, but that had nothing to do with my interpretation of DMT as death, nor did the history or cultural connections between DMT and death...I actually went into DMT expecting a terence mckenna-esk sci-fi fantasy*, and when I got there I instantly knew where I was, it was the after death, I had left my physical incarnation into a space after death, but before whatever comes next, reincarnation if your Buddhist or eastern, paradise/damnation if your monotheistic, who knows, because no even DMT can take you that far. I didn't have to think about it, I knew what had happened, and I knew where I was.
* (turns out mckenna did accurately describe the flash, but before I had smoked I played attention to all the wrong things, when I listen to mckenna now, I hear what happened to me described, but before I had smoked all I heard was "machine elves", I only picked up on the subjective stuff before I had smoked. )
DMT gives you access to non-physical being, death is non-physical being....
And though this has never been confirmed, I have a feeling that DMT May be involved in our major transitions, in our transition from the womb onto earth, meaning DMT May be involved in the chemistry of birth, and it very well may be involved in the chemistry of death...
It's either that, or, "the blank-slate" DMT induces ( your free from culture, ontology, ego, etc...) is identical to the "blank-slate" you experiance at birth and death.
Again, these are my personal interpretations, I'm sorry you were not able to gain much from DMT, but for others it has changed their lives in miraculous ways, and can't be so easily dismissed. I suffered from mild depression up until my first DMT experiance, now it's completely vanished. Before my first DMT experiance I was agnostic, a Buddhist mediator, I enjoyed eastern philosophy, but I was agnostic, leaning towards atheist, now I have no doubts that there is conscious existance after death, and following the implications of that realization has opened up a rich and amazing spiritual path for me, and above all, after my first DMT experiance I was left with a genuine happiness and love for life that still has not faded. I have not smoked DMT since 2012, (though I still occasionally drink yagé), I would not say I'm putting DMT on "a pedestal" but when something was the catalyst and gateway into so many beautiful things, when something had transformed you so completely, you give the credit where it's due.
...honestly it was probably going to happen any way, one way or another, and the DMT just brought everything out in a tremendous display of transcendence and transformation.
Any way, I'm only speaking from my experiance, and OF COARSE everybody is different and everybody will react differently.
...though telling someone to "be in for a surprise" is good advice in 9 out of 10 first time experiences...
Dr. Rick strassman would ask them "do you like roller-coasters?", and it is that type of intensity...
I have heard people say that DMT is unimpressive, but I've never seen it, every time I have watched a person smoke DMT, and reach peak experiance, they were always extremely shook up, most were astounded, astonished, in utter disbeliefe, it's never been a "light" experiance, and I've never seen a person dismiss it that easily after just smoking... but that's just my experiance.
It's better advice for a person who has not smoked to say "take this stuff seriously" rather than saying "I was unimpressed"
I've also seen DMT utterly destroy individuals, and it really is not something to be played around with...
-eg
Regardless if you personally thought it was the least like death, this was my interpretation...well, not just mine, it's a very common interpretation spanning back millennia, "aya" means "dead" , "soul" , "ghost" or "spirit" and "huasca" means "vine" in quechua, it's the "vine of the dead/spirits" or "the vine that give you access to spirits/the dead/death"
I've also had two experiences where I had died, I was revived both times after a short period, but that had nothing to do with my interpretation of DMT as death, nor did the history or cultural connections between DMT and death...I actually went into DMT expecting a terence mckenna-esk sci-fi fantasy*, and when I got there I instantly knew where I was, it was the after death, I had left my physical incarnation into a space after death, but before whatever comes next, reincarnation if your Buddhist or eastern, paradise/damnation if your monotheistic, who knows, because no even DMT can take you that far. I didn't have to think about it, I knew what had happened, and I knew where I was.
* (turns out mckenna did accurately describe the flash, but before I had smoked I played attention to all the wrong things, when I listen to mckenna now, I hear what happened to me described, but before I had smoked all I heard was "machine elves", I only picked up on the subjective stuff before I had smoked. )
DMT gives you access to non-physical being, death is non-physical being....
And though this has never been confirmed, I have a feeling that DMT May be involved in our major transitions, in our transition from the womb onto earth, meaning DMT May be involved in the chemistry of birth, and it very well may be involved in the chemistry of death...
It's either that, or, "the blank-slate" DMT induces ( your free from culture, ontology, ego, etc...) is identical to the "blank-slate" you experiance at birth and death.
Again, these are my personal interpretations, I'm sorry you were not able to gain much from DMT, but for others it has changed their lives in miraculous ways, and can't be so easily dismissed. I suffered from mild depression up until my first DMT experiance, now it's completely vanished. Before my first DMT experiance I was agnostic, a Buddhist mediator, I enjoyed eastern philosophy, but I was agnostic, leaning towards atheist, now I have no doubts that there is conscious existance after death, and following the implications of that realization has opened up a rich and amazing spiritual path for me, and above all, after my first DMT experiance I was left with a genuine happiness and love for life that still has not faded. I have not smoked DMT since 2012, (though I still occasionally drink yagé), I would not say I'm putting DMT on "a pedestal" but when something was the catalyst and gateway into so many beautiful things, when something had transformed you so completely, you give the credit where it's due.
...honestly it was probably going to happen any way, one way or another, and the DMT just brought everything out in a tremendous display of transcendence and transformation.
Any way, I'm only speaking from my experiance, and OF COARSE everybody is different and everybody will react differently.
...though telling someone to "be in for a surprise" is good advice in 9 out of 10 first time experiences...
Dr. Rick strassman would ask them "do you like roller-coasters?", and it is that type of intensity...
I have heard people say that DMT is unimpressive, but I've never seen it, every time I have watched a person smoke DMT, and reach peak experiance, they were always extremely shook up, most were astounded, astonished, in utter disbeliefe, it's never been a "light" experiance, and I've never seen a person dismiss it that easily after just smoking... but that's just my experiance.
It's better advice for a person who has not smoked to say "take this stuff seriously" rather than saying "I was unimpressed"
I've also seen DMT utterly destroy individuals, and it really is not something to be played around with...
-eg
