DMT Hinting at Awakening Kundalini

[Operculum]

My brother has blasted off several times over this past year with some changa I provided him.

Each time it seems he gets a message indicative of a Kundalini Awakening.

1st Example: He reported blasting off and one of the things he saw was a body lying on the ground with a green energy with a dragons head moving through the body.

2nd: He blasted off another time and saw various Yoga Posses being made by a dark figure while his eyes were closed.

3: He saw several lines drawn over his body while he looked at himself in the mirror

4: One time he met Buddha who was instructing him how to do diaphragmatic breathing. My brother reported that when he mimicked the breathing style, he felt a pressure build inside his head.

5: He actually asked to have his Kundalini awakened one time, and as soon as he blasted off, he said he got extremely sexually aroused.

6: This last time he blasted off, he had the sexual arousal happen again, except this time, he heard the noise of a Engine trying to start. He said the engine kept trying to start up but made the failing engine noise.


Now I read that in order to Awaken Kundalini, you must preserve your semen as that is where the Kundalini resides. My main question is, why does DMT seem so persistent on showing my brother images related to Kundalini? At first I thought this was just a coincidence, but each time he blasts off (about once a month) he is shown images related to Kundalini.


I am pretty amazed. I can't believe DMT has some sort of intelligence behind it that is showing my brother a consistent message. Wow!

 

[sleepermustawaken]

Yeah and when I smoke DMT I believe I am an ascending star seed indigo child and that I actually made the world dissappear in 2012 and these last three years have actually been in a simulation created by the flying spagettii monstar. I also turned in to Our Lord Jesus Christ and met buddha and became a reincarnated soul.

Regarding your semen ejaculation though, see this thread:

Meditation: A Road Toward Enlightenment - Spirituality & Mysticism - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

Also, I suggest you look at this wikipedia article and think of me giving you a healthy hint as to help you in really thinking what you would like to believe on insufficient evidence. Keep in mind we have had over 2000 years of this kind of thinking and it certainly has helped a lot of people with their hope in life, for sure, but it has also ruined a temendous amount of lives and created devestating wars. If we keep following the way history has been we may even have a war against materialists and kundali awakeners soon... but that is neither here nor there it is just interesting to suggest this kind of thing and may be possibly helpful to you. I don't want to make anyone offended though, I don't like that sort of vindictive attitude I really just want you to believe what you want to believe at the end of the day with all the helpful evidence that you can get, that is freedom of thought and it makes this place all the more enjoyable.

 

[Operculum]

I will agree that I have fallen into the trap of, OH MY GOSH, DMT SHOWED MY BROTHER ALL THESE THINGS THAT ARE RELATED SO IT MUST MEAN SOMETHING ULTRA MEGA SPIRITUALLY IMPORTANT!!

I have probably annoyed many people going on and on about this. I just find it fascinating that it happens again and again. I will admit there is a part of me that has become a bit of a fanatic...but i still have a healthy ammount of awareness to ground me back in regular everyday life.

 

[Godzy]

i didn't know what kundalini awakening was until now but who actually believes that stuff lol it's like how humans always try to conceptualize life instead of just letting it be. and we trip out and form these ideas of how everything functions and think we've solved it all... it's not meant to be understood.

 

[DeltaSpice]

I had an energy awaking.

Vibrations took over my body and senses . Later I found out it was a kundalini awakening.

It didn't do anything for me, not that I can tell. I think its classified as an accidental kundalini awakening.

A few days later I had vibrations coming from my forehead .

Since then I've had no vibrations .

I'm now on what seems to be a period of deep meditation caused by vine changa.

What ever is going on I think its a course . I'm curious to see what's next.

 

[null24]

The serpent energy concept, the twin channels of ascending and descending "subtle" energy, esoteric flows connecting the divine source of consciousness to the material manifestion of the body is one of the most ancient mystic concepts, you are correct, Sleeper, but just because you don't have the tool to measure it's frequency or a scope with which to view it doesn't mean it belongs in the same category as the woowoo you bring up. Nor is it's cultivation a worthless endeavor. It is however, not welcomed within our materialist atheist popular culture outside of the New Age contexts within which it is usually intersected.

A spontaneous awakening can effect some conditions that are akin to psychosis, it can be a very jarring experience. I challenge you to look closer into a subject before you attempt to wipe it away with a swipe of a sceptical hand. Humans across the world have worked with these concepts for tens of thousands of years, what gives you the conceit to think you've nailed it down in what, a couple decades, a mere few years of which may have even had the capacity for discernment in your current body? Well, it took a legendary intellect like Richard Nixon to set us straight on drug consumption, so yeah, you may be right. (oh, the old Nixon invocation!)

 

[Godzy]

Kundalini Awakening is actually real? Sounds to me like messing with your spine would lead to some sort of physical disability wouldn't it? Or is this involuntary and it just happens by itself? Interesting concept.. but as far as I can tell sounds like people over-thinking a concept and making it seem more "spiritual" than it really is... again I don't know much about Kundalini so this is just assumption.

 

[null24]

hmmm, 'real'...
I don't know about that any more than i know about anything:grin: , that said, as one who delves into the 'perennial wisdom' school of thought, i think there's something to it.

It has nothing to do with the manipulation of the spine. While asanas (body poses) facilitate it, breathing exercises, like the ones OP (err, op's "brother" )described being received via intuition are very effective. The way i perceive this whole thing is less dependant on any spiritual teaching however and really stems directly from psychedelic experience. And not so much while high, but a wide range of effects that are accurately described in the spiritual literature that occurred for some time after a particularly powerful experience with 5meo DMT. I'm not the person to discuss this from any level of real understanding or knowledge. All i know is that something happened to me and the most accurate description i found was a spontaneous kundalini awakening. Freaky stuff fo'sho.:?:


All I'm saying really is the wholesale discounting of something because it's "spiritual" seems rash. Then again, while I call myself an empiricist, I'm happy to have some mystery.

 

[Operculum]

This thread has taken a funny spin. In all honesty, it truely is my brothers experiences when he blasts off. I on the other hand have not broken through yet. I have come close only once but it was really crazy and a bit too much for me tl handle. I had what I would later find to be what I think is a temporary Kundalini awakening when I was 16.


I was listening to a trance CD my friend let me borrow. I was on MDMA for the first time and towards the end of the roll, as I was getting a light show from a friend, i started to roll my neck from side to side. It felt pleasurable but odd...it felt like if I was to keep doing it, it might feel even better. I started to roll my neck and suddenly this....energy hit my brain and my MDMA Roll magnified into another realm of pleasure. I felt like I entered into a deep mystical trance state of mind, and I was a drop of water in an ocean of pure love. Seconds later, my friend accidentally hit me in the eye with a glow stick and i was RIPPED from the intense heavenly pleasure state of trance and back to sober. I rolled on the floor holding my eye. Everyone else finished their roll, while mine abruptly ended.


Years later I met a neighbor woman whose son was diagnosed as schizophrenic. She taught me how she meditated. One day she told me who when she meditates, she somethings feel this strange feeling crawl ip her spine and eventually cause a brain orgasm as she said. I had read about Kundalini already before and put 2 and 2 together. SHE WAS COMSISTENTLY ACTIVATING HER KUNDALINI!

I spoke with her earlier this year and asked if she still has the brain orgasms. She is 60 years old now. She admitted that she still does have them.

Back to my brother...he was never interested in Kundalini one bit until he told me what he kept seeing after blasting off.

I am very intrigued by his visions because it appears DMT presents consistent images that resemble things related to Kundalini.

Whether you beleive or not...I know what happened to me. I also know that the woman down the street who moved away was a regular, non drug using, everyday person who happens to meditate. She is also a type 1 diabetic, not that that has anything to do with it but I am just saying...this is a regular human being who retired and lives like you and me and has health issues just like many other people on this earth.

Now you can remain skeptical and poke fun because you dont beleive, or its too out there for you. But take a second to consider that what I am saying might not be a crock of shit. Why else would I come on here to fabricate a story like this? Im merely fascinated by a personal experience I had, a womans experience with meditation, and my god to honest brothers exp with dmt that he tells me about. I dont really care if you think its just some hallucination and is something Im paying way too much attention to...perhaps you should be paying more attention....after all, isnt that what the so called DMT elves want you to do? "Pay attention"

 

[universecannon]

hmmm, 'real'...
I don't know about that any more than i know about anything:grin: , that said, as one who delves into the 'perennial wisdom' school of thought, i think there's something to it.

It has nothing to do with the manipulation of the spine. While asanas (body poses) facilitate it, breathing exercises, like the ones OP (err, op's "brother" )described being received via intuition are very effective. The way i perceive this whole thing is less dependant on any spiritual teaching however and really stems directly from psychedelic experience. And not so much while high, but a wide range of effects that are accurately described in the spiritual literature that occurred for some time after a particularly powerful experience with 5meo DMT. I'm not the person to discuss this from any level of real understanding or knowledge. All i know is that something happened to me and the most accurate description i found was a spontaneous kundalini awakening. Freaky stuff fo'sho.:?:


All I'm saying really is the wholesale discounting of something because it's "spiritual" seems rash. Then again, while I call myself an empiricist, I'm happy to have some mystery.

I think people get too caught up on the different labels/terms we apply to similar phenomena that we just don't fully understand yet. There are thousands upon thousands of reports of people experiencing this to different degrees and expressions. Whether they call it "kunadilini awakening" or "chi" or "prana" or "energy" or "chakra activation" or "energetic awakening", there is countless interpretations. At the end of the day these are just words.

People who scoff at these ideas either seem to have not experienced the profound infinite energetic states DMT and other psychedelics can help access, or are getting lost and confused in label land. Maps aren't the territory and words are not the experience. One experience could have endless interpretations and labels and beliefs applied to it afterwords by different people, or even the same person. There's a reason it's called after-words

When I take a high dose of a psychedelic such as lsd for example and do yoga then meditate, if I press my palms and look up with eyes closed it's pretty obvious something is going on when the orgasmic cosmic energy rises through my entire body and I feel and see jeweled chrysanthemum begin to form at the top of my head. If you read the ancient texts, this has all been known for thousands of years.

It really doesn't matter to me if I call it prana, chi, energy, kundalini, or my third eye just getting a bit too horny, because at the end of the day the experience is what it is and the left brain will never wrap its head around it using words.

We should keep this in mind:

If I have a headache, I have a headache. It doesn't matter if the explanation is dilating blood vessels in my brain, or muscle spasms in my shoulders, or 'stress', or psychological distress, or invisible demons pounding mallets on my brain. We don't call some headaches 'headaches' and others 'apparent headaches'. There is no such thing as an 'apparent' headache. Likewise, a mystical experience is defined as such based on the characteristics of the experience, not the source or explanation of the experience. So whether the source is 'outside' or 'inside', whether we explain the experience in mechanistic terms or not, it is still a mystical experience. There is no such thing as an 'apparent' mystical experience.

 

[Godzy]

either way, it's as real as you believe it is . not particularly interested in it myself so i'll pick a different route of understanding, but if that resonates with you then go for it lol

 

[Operculum]

I agree Godzy! I myself an interested in this topic. Some may find it boring. Its a recurring theme in my brothers DMT trips, seems like it might be important or significant somehow in me and my brothers life. Unfortunately, this phenomena is so rare that few people understand it or even know what the heck it is.

I wouldn't believe in it or would be a huge skeptic had I not experienced what I had experienced, and further, heard from the woman down the street about her experiences with meditation, and so on. I actually still have doubts about its existence...it would almost too intense and unfathomable to be part of my everyday normal life that is supposed to fit into this little box of reality i hold on to.

 

[Bancopuma]

I wouldn't be so quick to disregard the concept of Kundalini and prana, personally. There is likely a fair but of unnecessarily complicated dogma in yogic literature but I think there is definitely some wisdom to be found there too. There is enough scientific evidence of physical and psychological benefits to back up the practice of yogic meditation and pranayama techniques on a purely physical level to suggest they are on to something. And I don't think it is that crazy to suggest the body may hold energy systems more subtle than the physical which makes them hard to study currently. While Kundalini energy is not at this time recognised by western medical science....Kundalini syndrome...the physical and psychological effects of an Kundalini awakening...are, at least in some circles. A large number of people experimenting with yogic and meditational practices have experienced psychological effects, sometimes illuminating and pleasurable, other times highly unpleasant and distressing, sometimes having absolutely no prior knowledge of Kundalini, only to find their symptoms match up very well to an aroused Kundalini.

universecannon makes a great point of the issue of labels for the various energy related terms, and the map not being the terrain. But it seems "Kundalini like" experiences or symptoms can be elicited by yogic practices in a fair number of people...i.e. this is something that can result from experiential techniques, and doesn't seem to hinge on one's belief or lack of belief in the phenomena.

This is the description of the initial Kundalini awakening experience of Indian yogi, writer and teacher Gopi Krishna.

"Suddenly, with a roar like that of a waterfall, I felt a stream of liquid light entering my brain through the spinal cord. Entirely unprepared for such a development, I was completely taken by surprise; but regaining my self-control, keeping my mind on the point of concentration. The illumination grew brighter and brighter, the roaring louder, I experienced a rocking sensation and then felt myself slipping out of my body, entirely enveloped in a halo of light. It is impossible to describe the experience accurately. I felt the point of consciousness that was myself growing wider surrounded by waves of light. It grew wider and wider, spreading outward while the body, normally the immediate object of its perception, appeared to have receded into the distance until I became entirely unconscious of it. I was now all consciousness without any outline, without any idea of corporeal appendage, without any feeling or sensation coming from the senses, immersed in a sea of light simultaneously conscious and aware at every point, spread out, as it were, in all directions without any barrier or material obstruction. I was no longer myself, or to be more accurate, no longer as I knew myself to be, a small point of awareness confined to a body, but instead was a vast circle of consciousness in which the body was but a point, bathed in light and in a state of exultation and happiness impossible to describe."

While this awakening sounds amazingly pleasant, this experienced resulted in many years of misery of Gopi Krisha before things balanced out, while he "experienced the indescribable ecstasies of the mystics...and the agonies of the mentally afflicted." Thus the yogi's do not consider Kundalini something to be taken lightly, and advocate lots of physical, mental and spiritual training in order to awaken it safely.

A link on psychedelics and Kundalini that may be of interest to some:

http://www.med.wayne.edu/degracialab/metaphysics/lsdweb.pdf

I personally think this is pretty interesting stuff. I've attached a paper on Kundalini syndrome and mental illness if anyone wants to read up on this further.