DMT In A Spliff?

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Is there any practical way to smoke 50mg of DMT in a spliff?

I can understand that smoking a spliff could take about 5 minutes which might be a problem when it comes to having a breakthrough, just wondering if anyone has ever tried it? Maybe with some changa.

 

[d*l*b]

Smoking with a spliff isn’t the most efficient means of administration, changa will probably be a better route to go if you do want to. A spliff containing 50mg spice won’t get you very far in my experience, maybe try 1–200mg. If you are smoking it to yourself it would probably be best in a one-skin to get it smoked quicker.

Oh yeah, spice in spliffs makes your fingers smell vile (in my opinion, there seems to be people out there who don’t find it objectionable).

 

[SHroomtroll]

2-300mg of some preety weak changa around 20-30% mixed 50/50 with some bud makes a very good spliff that might not take you all the way through the hole but will keep you in hyperspace for a good hour or so. at least if you load it up with some harmalas.

actually i prefer this route over smoking breakthrough doses nowadays.

 

[HermeticShaman]

I have yet to make changa enhanced with any other substances, but I did recently make some 1:1 ratio changa, some of which I rolled up. It blew me away, honestly. It is true, there is a lot of waste. But when you're yielding decent quantities, my priority becomes enjoyability and effectiveness. I took 2 mere hits off that one (much left over for later), and if I had taken a 3rd or 4th, I know I would have broken through. Which is cool considering the method of intake.

But I wouldn't just sprinkle it in there, though. Definitely make a preparation.

 

[SHroomtroll]

Smoking that strong changa pure in a joint is a big waste, try diluting it with some herbs and roll it really thin, that way it won´t be much of a waste.

 

[HermeticShaman]

Smoking that strong changa pure in a joint is a big waste, try diluting it with some herbs and roll it really thin, that way it won´t be much of a waste.

I'm sure it is. I have a lot of experimenting to do with different concoctions, it seems like you've got a lot of experience. My first and only (so far) changa preparation was prepared with spice and kinnick-kinnick, a native american smoking blend. Great for what it is, but I've got some caapi on the way. I'll be making a mixture of caapi, this smoking blend, some blue lotus, a little lavender, and a bit of white sage. I may consider toning down the ratio.

But I gotta tell you, man. Last night I must have taken 4 good tokes from the changa joint and I definitely had a break through experience. I couldn't tell you how much more I may have gotten out of the same product otherwise, but I definitely didn't use much! But, of course... Break through is not always desirable. Most of my experiences are just strong enough to get me in touch with everything around me, unlock my visual faculties, and place me in a higher state of awareness.

I don't have experience with leveling myself into the experience more gradually the way you describe. All of mine have been pretty quick, direct, and intense, but I am curious to see the difference in your method.

 

[Dr_Sister]

Sister has always felt underwhelmed when smoking either dmt or changa in a joint relative to using a glass bulb pipe or a vapourizer. Maybe at a concert or something though, but again her tube vapourizer would be a better way to go for casual smoking.

 

[HermeticShaman]

Shoot, to each his own, I've had excellent experience with it rolled up.

 

[SHroomtroll]

smoking changa joints is def not the best way if you wan´t a deep breakthrough kind of experience.

But if you wan´t more of a aya kind of trip it´s very nice, alot has to do with technique and slowly falling deeper and deeper in the hole.

The first puffs might not get you there but if you use alot harmalas you will eventually build up a preety storng buzz that you can keep at a level you like as long as the joint is burning, this is very good since you don´t have to refil yur pipe just keep smoking to stay in space =)

 

[۩]

I used to breakthru with fat changa spliffs all the time. Many of my most memorable moments were burning these things down....

 

[Shayku]

Isn't there a serious danger though in holding a burning joint while on the edge of hyperspace?

 

[۩]

Danger? The danger of tossing a dimethyl roach into a passing stream
or the danger of a small hole dug, ready for the departure of the spirit
or the danger of a rock! The FLAMMABLE CAVE! Just kidding....

Its only a danger if youre an idiot.

 

[HermeticShaman]

Danger? The danger of tossing a dimethyl roach into a passing stream
or the danger of a small hole dug, ready for the departure of the spirit
or the danger of a rock! The FLAMMABLE CAVE! Just kidding....

Its only a danger if youre an idiot.

Indeed. On my last journey out, I just knew when the time was right to set it to the side and there was no danger. If you're venturing into unknown territory, situate yourself in such a way that it couldn't be a danger. You should be fine, though.

 

[Shayku]

Well, I usually trip on a bed, or with pillows, blanket, etc. And for anyone sitting in silent darkness, redwood overgrowths, streams and holes may not materially be there. Yes, I'm sure one can put it out before the departure, but it just seems to me like something that can "go wrong", and as such, something that would hinder my own liftoff.

 

[۩]

If it's not for you, you can do whatever works for you. I like to smoke changa and walk through duplicated realities that make absolutely no sense. Life is weird. DMT is weirder. Smoalk moar changa spliffs!

Some people smoke DMT and black out. So yeah, obviously if you're this type you shouldnt be holding fire on top of flammable material while potentially blacking out. Use your heads, dont burn yo beds

 

[chocobeastie]

Different people respond differently to changa spliffs... 25% DMT Changa is what I normally use, which is not considered to be weak, and I don't use harmalas or 10X Caapi to the Changa, just 30% Caapi leaf and/or vine in the blend.

With that, some people are going to take one puff and go interdimensional. And of course, say if you are in a group and passing the spilff around, because of the MAOI's, you are going to get a bonus boost when you smoke the spliff the 2nd time around. And then, if you do another one, in 15-20 minutes, that next one is going to be stronger because of increased MAOI levels in the brain!

 

[Ellis D'Empty]

Well, as the question wasn't 'is it practical to smoke DMT in a spliff', I would have to say, "Yes, a Changa joint is one of my favorite ways to meditate." I like it because it brings more than just one person into the same trip. IE: You all experience 'roughly' the same trip, at least IME.

50mg of just DMT pure is not going to be able to be rolled, so good luck on that one.

But you can roll a joint, and then sprinkle 50mg of DMT on top. You'll get far enough (provided only you and maybe on other smoke it).

Anyways, I love it. One of my fav's. I'm about to watch Temors 4 though, so peace and love

 

[wingchun]

My experience has been that spice in scooby's is rather nice, but never a breakthrough experience. Sometimes it's fun to "low dose" - particularly with a carnally minded partner to share the pleasure. Low dose in a scooby certainly does something majical for the orgasm experience, and has led me to hypothesise that orgasm may involve a slight DMT release (along with other neuro-soup). Problem I found trying to break through with heavily spiced scoobies, is you have to keep coming back to deal with it, ie find the ash tray, take another drag. By the time you are almost there, you couldn't be bothered with the scoobie anymore... My experimenting is also suggesting that if you want to break through, do a scoobie minutes before a big boost, but not hours before. Seems like either the neurons get tired of spice, maybe temporarily run out of neuro-soup chemicals to release.