DMT Issue?

[scorp130n]

I once had a dream, that I used Acacia Confusa powdered root bark with Lazy Man's Tek..
In this dream, It seemed no large crystal was formed. Now, upon scraping the pan..Was able to obtain a fairly decent amount (teaspoon?) of orange/yellow goo. This goo looks, smells, and smokes like dmt..but is not a crystal.
After learning of freezing the jar, to pour off the naptha easier and let it evap with a fan..
Still goo was found. Though it looks like there was 'salt' sprinkled on the pan (Dmt alkaloids?)
Unfortunatly, in this dream ..Started with 100G of this bark, now am at..40?
I understand no large amount will be yielded from simply 60G, but in the dream I am only wanting to break through once, or twice..Before deciding if to go further.
Decided to use less naptha, and not scrape up findings.
Evap 1 was done in an ash tray with 50-100 ml naptha , finding what looked like small salts in there. Put naptha in the jar (with the bark and NaOH water mixture) again, heated and stirred, froze, and poured naptha into the ash tray with the previous extractions offspring.
If this process is repeated, would It create bigger crystals something other than goo or..?
Is one limited to starting with 100g+ ?

 

[Journeymann]

I once had a dream, that I used Acacia Confusa powdered root bark with Lazy Man's Tek..
In this dream, It seemed no large crystal was formed. Now, upon scraping the pan..Was able to obtain a fairly decent amount (teaspoon?) of orange/yellow goo. This goo looks, smells, and smokes like dmt..but is not a crystal.
After learning of freezing the jar, to pour off the naptha easier and let it evap with a fan..
Still goo was found. Though it looks like there was 'salt' sprinkled on the pan (Dmt alkaloids?)
Unfortunatly, in this dream ..Started with 100G of this bark, now am at..40?
I understand no large amount will be yielded from simply 60G, but in the dream I am only wanting to break through once, or twice..Before deciding if to go further.
Decided to use less naptha, and not scrape up findings.
Evap 1 was done in an ash tray with 50-100 ml naptha , finding what looked like small salts in there. Put naptha in the jar (with the bark and NaOH water mixture) again, heated and stirred, froze, and poured naptha into the ash tray with the previous extractions offspring.
If this process is repeated, would It create bigger crystals something other than goo or..?
Is one limited to starting with 100g+ ?

Sounds like you are getting the good in all their various forms from the tek werk that you are describing.

Be sure to read the Attitude page and what it says about commercial manufacturing and I think that will answer why we only talk about smaller amount used for extraction.

If you only have 40-60g left and only want one breakthrough then why the question on 100g or more. Gotta watch that here. Not a scold, just a friendly reminder.

I have heard that the Changa route is a failproof method.

Peace.

 

[scorp130n]

Understandable.
I appreciate the advice.
Also will look into Changa route.

I suspected it was due to too much naphtha, so have cut down on that, seems to look a little better. Now the goo is only when scraped up. It's not really visible other than yellow-ish looking "dried up salt" looking area, may believe the goo is undried naphtha with dmt? One does not know exactly.

 

[fry]

from my understanding pure n-n-dmt is actually an oil base, the beta carbolines are what produce the crystalline structure.

 

[scorp130n]

So it would be fair to assume, the goo is NN? Just I don't have beta carbolines for reason::

 

[fry]

I am still learning myself, but from my understanding yes.

apparently back in the day dmt wax was all you could get, and those who smoked it say it was better than whitr fluff, just not a pretty.

 

[scorp130n]

I like what I'm hearing.
Now, this may sound stupid..
But does one Inhale and hold the vapor, as a person does from a big hit from ganja?
Or does one inhale big hit, exhale, and try to obtain another hit...
Heard different things :\ not quite sure

 

[fry]

I think it depends on how its being smoked.

if I were smoking freebase from a simple piece that allowed streaming and my product would burn off I might go for a 3 count.

when I smoke changa Im able to take a toke and snuff the cherry while I hold it 10-20sec

 

[scorp130n]

Smoked Via Lightbulb.
Hahah. Usually a glob of goo at the bottom, and some random goo on the sides from a razor blade.

So, a 3 Count? Will try..
New to all of this, I appreciate any advice alot! Thanks!

 

[tempest]

In my experience I've found it best to hold it as long as possible and maybe take a couple breaths and hold in each subsequent hit as well. I would also suggest something besides a light bulb. They sometimes have nasty stuff in them and you run the risk of wasting the goods.

 

[3rdI]

hello scorp130n, how you doing?

you want to be holding in each hit for 20ish secs to allow maximum absorption of the goodies.

I would quickly abandon the lightbulb, its a very poor way to vape DMT.

Definitely look into infusing some herb/leaf, its easy and fool proof and if your a pot smoker you should be able to take your dose in a single hit which can be held in until you break existence.

 

[tempest]

hello scorp130n, how you doing?

you want to be holding in each hit for 20ish secs to allow maximum absorption of the goodies.

I would quickly abandon the lightbulb, its a very poor way to vape DMT.

Definitely look into infusing some herb/leaf, its easy and fool proof and if your a pot smoker you should be able to take your dose in a single hit which can be held in until you break existence.

I agree 3rdI, 20 min, its so easy to infuse, even if its not caapi leaves I have found it just helps to get more into the lungs and not burn the heck out of it.

 

[scorp130n]

Okay, cheap alternative to lightbulb?
I can use a bowl with some ganja+dmt? I Just want to break through.
I could rub ganj on the pan, soaking up alot of the goo even.. and smoke via J, or Bowl.

If those are viable, let me know.

Thinking of a metal lid from a monster can, putting the spice in...attaching it to a bottle, squeezing out some air, and letting the bottle fill with vap, before uncapping the other end and taking in a big hit.
Sounds good in theory, but dont know how the alumnium lid and DMT will do with eachother..

 

[3rdI]

just use a bong, there pretty cheap.

you could mop up some goo with a herb and then just stick it in a bong and smoke as normal, this would work well enough.

I Just want to break through.

be careful what you wish for:shock: :twisted:

 

[scorp130n]

Dmt+ alchohol in a little pan, put in some Oregano and peppermint/ dry / smoke?

Cannabis would muffle the experience I gather..

 

[3rdI]

I use IPA to infuse my herb.

weed and DMT seems to be unpopular with most but some don't mind, personally I think weed goes with everything.

 

[tempest]

Even a meth pipe from a gas station or on top of some weed would be better than the lightbulb for sure. If you want the guarantee of breaking through I'd say look up a proper changa tek. Its super easy and just one toke of that from a bong or a couple hits from a glass MJ pipe should do ya. If you can get some peppermint tea and infuse it with just enough ipa to soak it 1:1 ratio. let dry and bong rip that is cheap and easy.

 

[scorp130n]

Ipa, iso alchohol I take it?

i'm not a pothead anymore. I would go for the combination of dmt and cannabis but I dont like the reviews of it muffling the experience. That would be just sad :[

Investigating some changa currently.. If its all readibly available at a store I'm down.
If I have to order or something T_T it's painful..

 

[3rdI]

Ipa, iso alchohol I take it?

yes indeed.

 

[Journeymann]

just use a bong, there pretty cheap.

you could mop up some goo with a herb and then just stick it in a bong and smoke as normal, this would work well enough.

I Just want to break through.

be careful what you wish for:shock: :twisted:

This is what I do too 3rdI and have had break thru after break thru. Never sure on the exact doses though. A little seems to go a long way with the goo from what I hear.

Also get a blanket as you will most likely get the chills.