DMT killed my mushrooms

[Gone-and-Back]

A while back I decided to smoke some DMT while on an eighth of mushrooms. I ate them and then about an hour later as I was coming up, my friend handed me a loaded pipe full of changa. I proceeded to take deep inhales off the pipe, already starting to notice movement in my vision from the mushrooms.

Upon exhaling the third hit, I was gone. However, when I came back from hyperspace there was the lingering effects of the DMT, but I could not feel the mushrooms anymore. I sat there listening to music, as the effects I was feeling slowly tapered off over a half hour to an hour...even the mushrooms effects on me went away! So only an hour into my mushroom trip, everything just stopped being psychedelic.

Could this of happened because the DMT overpowered everything else? Had I not smoked the DMT on the upcome, but instead on the peak or downcome, would this of changed what happened? Has anyone else experienced this?

 

[jamie]

Thats not normal. Usually it kicks the mushrooms in harder for me.

 

[Mr.Peabody]

I have had mushroom trips where I came back to normal reality in the middle of them. Very odd.

It may just have been a fluke, or maybe your body chemistry is special and this would happen to you again.

My experiences are similar to jamie's though. DMT with mushrooms usually blasts me out of the stratosphere.

 

[Gone-and-Back]

I wonder why I experienced the exact opposite then...

It blasts you off even if you smoke it right when you start feeling the mushrooms?

 

[fourthripley]

I have read of someone using DMT to terminate an LSD trip but can't remember much in the way of detail.

 

[Metanoia]

That's bizarre. I usually take fairly high doses of mushrooms (I have a naturally high tolerance) and the one time I was brave enough to smoke some changa after eating mushrooms I had an intense hour or so before I came down to where I could get up and move around again.

My dosage was 5 grams dried cubensis (lemon tek) and I hit a bowl of 80mg of my 1:1 changa. It was overwhelming and I would not repeat it at that dosage. I can't remember half of the DMT trip it was so intense.

So I guess my point is the same as jamie's That's odd. Maybe smoking the changa later in the trip would be better, as that is when I did smoke mine. I waited until the peak of the shroom trip was just starting to relent. I'd be terrified to do that right at the peak :shock:

 

[AlbertKLloyd]

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I recall once taking some cacti, and some ayahuasca, maybe something else like an MDMA-like RC too and having a lovely experience and then having sex and right at orgasm being totally sober, the orgasm made the trip go away! Odd eh?

This thread reminded me of that, it is trivial but odd.

 

[Gone-and-Back]

^ That is very odd. Maybe it was such a strong, earthly experience that it instantly drew you back into full reality?

 

[Global]

Maybe the mushrooms weren't that potent to begin with? It may have been the case that you would not have gotten much further regardless of whether or not you smoked any DMT.

 

[Gone-and-Back]

Maybe the mushrooms weren't that potent to begin with? It may have been the case that you would not have gotten much further regardless of whether or not you smoked any DMT.

That is possible, but it doesnt explain why after only the come up, all the effects completely vanished?

 

[rOm]

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I recall once taking some cacti, and some ayahuasca, maybe something else like an MDMA-like RC too and having a lovely experience and then having sex and right at orgasm being totally sober, the orgasm made the trip go away! Odd eh?

This thread reminded me of that, it is trivial but odd.

Ayahuasca and MDMA-like RC or MDMA for that matter isn't a safe combination.
Please be cautious when combining RIMA's - like harmalas, syrian rue and caapi with RC's.
Amphetamine like compound can be fatal with harmalas in general.

 

[AlbertKLloyd]

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I recall once taking some cacti, and some ayahuasca, maybe something else like an MDMA-like RC too and having a lovely experience and then having sex and right at orgasm being totally sober, the orgasm made the trip go away! Odd eh?

This thread reminded me of that, it is trivial but odd.

Ayahuasca and MDMA-like RC or MDMA for that matter isn't a safe combination.
Please be cautious when combining RIMA's - like harmalas, syrian rue and caapi with RC's.
Amphetamine like compound can be fatal with harmalas in general.

Got any references or data to back that up?
A case of death perhaps.

 

[Vodsel]

^ Leaving here one paper with data.

This study examined the involvement of MDMA and concurrently administered pharmaceutical drugs in cases reported to the Victorian State Coroner. The National Coroners Information System was used to conduct a comprehensive search and examination of all closed cases between 2002 and 2008 where MDMA was detected.
Pathology, toxicology, and Coroners’ findings were considered in all cases. In all, 106 fatalities were identified, of which 43 (41%) cases involved the concomitant use of MDMA with other drugs, including pharmaceuticals that were likely to result in an adverse drug reaction or varying risks (4 high-risk cases involved moclobemide and MDMA, in addition to 10 moderate-risk cases, and 5 minor-risk cases).

 

[AlbertKLloyd]

Thanks!
That is perfect.

 

[No Knowing]

I smoked DMT right after a mushrooms peak a few months ago and while I wouldn't say the effects were non-existent. I would say my perception of them was greatly mitigated. I felt much closer to sober than before the blastoff.

I put this down to my subjective mind comparing the Mushroom baseline to the DMT breakthrough. Which had a HUGE discrepancy. Mushrooms does not even come close to DMT+Mushrooms. In this case I believe it was subjective. Strange that you said you had almost no effects.

I notice the same subjective difference in intensity with LSD+DMT. Coming back to even a heavy trip is nothing like the breakthrough...