DMT N-Oxide experience?

[WillIdreamDuringTheProcess?]

So my teacher did his last xylene pull the other day on 100 g of MHRB powder and was left with roughly 150 mg of yellow oil that he gave to me as a gift for beeing awesome .
75 mg-ish (scales a bit off) was placed on a piece of steelwool by rubbing it in on the top and then jammed in a bottle neck (love this ”machine” of yours or whoevers )
The bottle neck was heated gently and i started toking away.
Around the 3rd toke i started noticing my head getting heavier. At the 4th toke it felt like a bag of bricks and by the 5 th...well i had to lay the pipe aside!
I tilted my head back and exhaled the fumes and as i tilted my head forward after i exhaled, i couldnt believe what had happened.
What I was looking at was an exact toyish replica of my living room. And I don´t mean like it looked like it, it was a toy-replica of it!
A thought sprung to mind of a crazy japanese guy from the future building old school model homes out of some new school-plastic for a museum of some sort and failing miserably.
How an ”American”style diner looks like overhere in Europe comes to mind.
That was the thing about this toyapartment, it looked like a reeeally bad copy, like supersatuarated colors, easy-bake-oven bad style. Picture yourself a 5 year old kid playing grown-up house with an unlimited budget and you´re pretty damn close!
I of course, bursted into an hysterical fit of laughter!
”Oh my, I ended up in Legoland” i chirped between fits of laughter.
I reached for my pack of cigarettes as I recalled my most recent trip to Holland in which I used the look of my current cigarette to assess how spaced out I was during my mushroom journeys (you could still by as many mushrooms as you liked back then, its really a shame those days are over).
And as I looked upon it I was annihialated. It was the dumbest looking thing i had ever seen.
It was obviously a toycigarette not fit for smoking!
Thats what I found so bizarre about this trip. It was not as if a filter of effects had been added over the environment. Every object had instead transformed into a new one with very defined colors looking as if it had always looked like that. I could pick items up and look at them from up close and from far away and they would look the same. They didn´t look like new things, they were new things. The labels one various soda cans and stuff (i´ve been pre-occupied with other things than chores these past week plus the missus is abroad) had different labels on them with the brand names and so forth written in different fonts then usually.
And all of the sudden the visual effects were gone leaving me puzzled laughing at where i had just been. Whatever this stuff is it seems to have a slightly amnesic effect for me. However I was overcome with the most relaxing feeling ever, as if i had just been given a good thorough massage and took a hit of some good weed afterwards. I felt an enormous peace and continued giggling for hours over the absurdity of the situation I had been in.
I continued smoking up the remains of the oil during the day, with similar effects albeit not as intense.
So...this of course got me wondering; Do you think this stuff was dmt n-oxide? I have had both white dmt extracted with heptane and yellow/reddish dmt extracted with xylene and this resembled none of it.
It matches the description as a yellow goldish oil that refused precipitate in to a solid.
Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
I think I will try to obtain som Psychotria Viridis and extract both the dmt and the dmt n-oxide, separate them and then try to bioassay wether this was it to make sure, as i enjoyed it immensely in the most recreational way possible.
It was the funniest godamn moment of my life!

Peace and love everybody!

 

[Kartikay]

Man, I've got no idea but be careful. Don't smoke stuff when you don't know what it is.

 

[WillIdreamDuringTheProcess?]

I truth fully appreciate your concern, but how many of us here would be smoking dmt at all if someone somewhere some day had not smoked something that nobody knew what it was?:roll:

 

[Okra]

Sorry for resurrecting a really old thread, but I think this is a great trip report.

I have been reading other n,n-DMT-n-oxide experiences, and your comments on the fact that things aren't seen through a "filter", or have a transient effect, but a real, tangible different object seem to concur with others.

Experiences like this make me want to mix some of my freebase with peroxide, it sounds like such a more conscious exploratory experience.

 

[endlessness]

First of all, the first post relies on the assumption that yellow = DMT N-oxide.. That is a fallacy, because yellow can be several other things that aren't n-oxide, and in the course of analysis done with mimosa extraction, n-oxide has appeared very rarely and only in very small amounts in the few rare cases.

Also, I just analysed some dmt oxidised with hydrogen peroxide and it seems it creates other compounds (of unknown activity/toxicity) appart from dmt n-oxide.. Im gonna re-do these tests in the future but I think people should be careful bioassaying these unknown compounds.

As for the comment at the end of the OP, about psychotria viridis, I dont think there is any indication of it having dmt n-oxide.. I think that relies on some assumptions that were made by 69ron (who btw made several other dubious claims) that because its a leaf, it probably has more oxygen and therefore more n-oxides, but this doesnt take in account that plants also have anti-oxidants and that it works in way more complex ways than ron assumed. There have been analysis even with ayahuasca brews (made of psychotria viridis, and boiled extendedly, so in theory more chance of n-oxide formation) using HPLC-MS/MS and there was no n-oxide found.

Lastly, IME when one smokes dmt a few times, one notices that even the same batch in very similar set and setting can result in completely different trips. If you want something more 'manageable', maybe instead try adjusting dosage, or try taking some harmalas together...

 

[DMTripper]

I once had a similar trip at my parents summer house. At that time I smoked n,n-dmt and that place turned into some other version of it self Like the same summer house but in another dimension. The awesome dimension Ohhh man that fireplace! The flames were alive in there. Playing around. This place was VERY adventure like. It felt like I was in some adventure story book. Quite cartoonish

 

[nen888]

..the thing is, pure DMT can display a very wide range of experiences from 'alien-geometic' to 'like photo-reality' to the void..
..to me first candidate for yellow oil is NMT plus probably trace beta-carboline hindering crystalization, but as endlessness said there are a few things which could be yellow..
..certainly, actual proof of the N-oxide being in MHRB, or other dmt-plants, is very scant..
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