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DMT not working for me anymore

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Dude .... alot of people here would disagree with me here . As I have stated before and been totally dogged out by it.. only about 1 out of 7-8 batches of bark are TRUE m. hostilis/tenuiflora . The market is flooded with m. pudica which is loaded with nmt . Mixed with harmalas and either smoked or eaten its fine, however smoked alone the xtals pulled from this shit bark are trash.

Ive been scorned many times for saying this and I really dont want to hurt anyones buisness or livelyhood BUT.... the toads bark IS NOT HOSTILIS . It IS PUDICA and its not just labeled that way for shipping purposes. ITs trash.. Ive bought it atleast ten times over a span of several years and its all trash. He's a good guy and when i told him with my last order it was trash , 1 key* he sent me over 5 pounds free and paid the shipping.

Like I said , its fine with harmalas but garbage on its own. Sorry toad .. but people should be truly informed on what they are smoking..

Notice the smell of the raw powdered bark? Pudica has a slightly weirder , sharper odor.

If gabrielle is still on ebay thats a trustworthy brazilian vendor. Everything from her has been top notch.

I've been at this over twelve years and i am noticing a steady decrease in the potency of all bark. I think the trees are being harvested younger and that may have some effect on potency. Also Ive noticed that the farther north of the equator you go.. the more nmt will appear and less dmt even in true hostilis... also the bark harvested in the heat of summer or dead of winter is signifigantly more potent than that harvested in either spring or fall.

Thats just my two cents worth... take it or leave it...

Love ya toad , but your mexican bark has flooded the market at dirt cheap prices and most other vendors are buying and distributing it... thats hurting alot of first timers and those with not much experience with it.

also my method of adminstration has been criticized as unsafe.. dont do it with a head full of maoi's ;) however i say load way more than you could possibly smoke at once into a straight stem with thin steel wool and a lil ciggarette ash... about a half a gram is what i do... i hit it as hard and slow as i can and hold it as long as i can... when i can hold no longer i only exhale out about a quarter at a time then replenish with 1/4 fresh air two or three times.. if you can master this tek its what i dub the one hit breakthrough method.... if you can lift the pipe back up to your lips after this repeat once more... if the bark is worth a shit then you WILL Breakthrough.

Dont listen to that BS about burning your spice... put the flame on it and hit it like a fiend ;)

Peace and godspeed all....

Thousands of extractions willllll leave ya with a pretty good take on things ;)
 
If your method is correct and spice is good, I would have to be flabbergasted. I have been lowering my doses lately. The thought of Dmt not working is frightening and exciting, but, it would only really be demanding of attention if more users report the same soon.
 
I dont know if the problem is with smoking technique guys... haha. I have the EXACT same problem now, and 4 out of 6 trips I have had nothing, and I have always used changa and only once freebase. Everytime I smoke changa in a pipe it used to blow me away but now.... nothing. I even hold it in for so long that no smoke comes out of my lungs. Just a strong heart beat and maybe auditory clicking, similar doses as well. I fail to believe that it has anything to do with tolerence either, seems like it does what it wants, when it wants.

I was reading the comments and the one on oxidising... It made sense, until I thought about how my friend gets profound effects, from the same changa, even when we smoke the same amount simultaneously with the same technique.

I am at a loss for ideas to help myself with this problem, and it's really frustrating me because I KNOW I've been there before but now I just can't get there
 
well at least I'm not the only one experiencing this problem. How often would you say you smoke DMT (before having this problem) and were you trying for a breakthrough? I know what you mean, it is frustrating to not get back to that place and I think it might be some kind of mental block where in attempt to get there results in a fail. I'm taking a break for a while and will see what happens when I'm in the right set/setting and try again. I will be very disappointed if my DMT adventures are at an end.
 
My opinion is that there are 3 factors that could be causing this, and if you address them all, you should be able to have a breakthrough. As far as I know, there are no known reports in the literature of tolerance to DMT.

1) Route of Administration - Everyone here has mentioned awesome ways to make sure you are getting a dedicated amount of material into your system. It would be interesting to see if you have the same reaction (or lack thereof) to intravenous/intramuscular DMT fumarate.

2) Right drug/dose - Make sure the purity is there and the quantity is there for blast off

3) Brain chemistry - The only other thing I can think of that would stop you from breaking through is having some sort of neutral antagonist that is filling the receptors that DMT typically binds with. This could be something in your diet that you have changed. I imagine the most important receptors would be the 5-HT2A as far as frontal cortex goes. Also, I just read a paper about DMT activating sigma-1 receptors, of which the pharmacophore is a phenylpropylamine. One approach to deal with this issue would be to fast (as in huasca prep) and then see if that affects your problem.

Hope this helps?
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Have you tried holding it.... completely

or... stop taking it for a month or so while drinking lots of tea with Anti-Oxidants.... 1ltr of water everyday...
 
Donline said:
Have you tried holding it.... completely

or... stop taking it for a month or so while drinking lots of tea with Anti-Oxidants.... 1ltr of water everyday...
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Ive tried both the things you mentioned neither seemed to work. The only time i get close to the full effects i once experienced is when i smoke DMT at the peak of a pharmahuasca trip.
 
One additional question (I feel sorry for you, as you must feel like in front of inquisition or a psychiatrist) that comes to my mind: have you been using other tryptamines a lot (LSD, mushrooms...)? I assume we can expect some cross-tolerance between them and DMT as well...

But nevertheless, I think that stop trying and pushing DMT for some time might be a good decision...
 
I can suggest these:

1.Check you method of vaporizing, there are many things to consider, info can be found on the nexus.

3. In case your vaporizing device is poor then increase your dose by 5-10mg at a time and see what happens. Poor device will require more material for "normal" results.

2.Take a two week break and see what happens(if your smoking method is good)


Personally I have experience with getting poor results with VG and GVG that was due to inappropriate temperature and poor screen. I believe most peoples problems are due to vaporizing technique because it isn't as easy as it seems(well maybe it's easy after you have nailed it).
 
Michal_R said:
One additional question (I feel sorry for you, as you must feel like in front of inquisition or a psychiatrist) that comes to my mind: have you been using other tryptamines a lot (LSD, mushrooms...)? I assume we can expect some cross-tolerance between them and DMT as well...

But nevertheless, I think that stop trying and pushing DMT for some time might be a good decision...
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Nope only other drug would be cannabis.

I'm pretty confident the problem has nothing to do with smoking method or quality of spice.
 
I rarely use other subs at the moment, and was smoking on average of 1 - 2 - 3 Trips a week. A buddy of mine actually just had something strange happen, he saw a crystal with blood dripping into a bowl on 40mg and when he came down he noticed his nose was bleeding... Could this be from an increase in blood pressure?
 
you know bro i only smoke DMT roughly every three months.

Always in a bong,
twice crystal-both Breakthroughs completely;
Twenty odd herbal blends always get me to the door,

And since my first breakthrough i always have a presence when i smoke now, even herbal.
Sometimes a theme, sometimes a face, a familiar consciousness or energy.

I have tried fasting recently before smoking the last 4 times about, and the effect is so much more,
More electric, Fits easier transition, more colour, more sharper, gets deeper inside.


I pretty much always know when i am ready for another DMT, not ever often.

It feels too sacred to me to use often, IMO, there are plenty of other psychedelics to have fun with, but since my first taste of DMT i knew it was quite serious.

BUT WHO KNOWS the Medicine Men in the amazon drink it every week at least.
 
So I decided to try again last night after a 3 week break. I was with some friends and went to a lake outside at night loaded a breakthrough dose and nothing, but later that night inside my buddies house (using the same dose and method) it was a success.

Is it possible that set and setting can have this big affect on DMT for me? Would there be a way to mentally prepare myself to counter this effect?
 
Could it be that your subconscious activates some sort of protection when under certain conditions? Try remembering last time you were able to visit hyperspace, who you were with, what was said or done or misplaced, maybe one of those things contribute to you blocking out the experience. Maybe you just don't feel safe around certain people or in certain environments. The mind is sometimes playing tricks on us and tries to make us think the cause is entirely something else than what it actually is; well, this could very well be the ego, what ever it is, it's a part of us that just behaves like that sometimes. It's a trickster, the game of the human being.

Well anyway, I may be just rambling, but do try and remember those aspects, it won't hurt. Also, it could help you if you try to make some sort of list for each of those places you tried travelling and not worked, and see what the differences/commonalities could be. Basically everything related to set & setting. If those things don't reveal anything, try looking deeper into the content of your trips and see what comes up. This is where a trip journal or notes or what ever become very useful.
 
redeyes, I get the same kind of effect (not sure if it's the case with you as well, you will know if it happens to you again), where if I have some DMT it does nothing to me now, and then anywhere between 1 hour and the rest of the evening I have some again, it has an effect. So I am not so sure if it's got to do with set and setting... Well for me anyway. I have yet to feel effects from the first initial smoke of the day and thats a downer for me because I dont want to smoke twice in one day actually :/
 
rjb said:
Could it be that your subconscious activates some sort of protection when under certain conditions? Try remembering last time you were able to visit hyperspace, who you were with, what was said or done or misplaced, maybe one of those things contribute to you blocking out the experience. Maybe you just don't feel safe around certain people or in certain environments. The mind is sometimes playing tricks on us and tries to make us think the cause is entirely something else than what it actually is; well, this could very well be the ego, what ever it is, it's a part of us that just behaves like that sometimes. It's a trickster, the game of the human being.
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I think you are right, I just was surprised that such a powerful psychedelic could become inactive under certain conditions.

Volvox said:
I'll say it again...
Are you taking any Ginseng? Ginko?
Do you drink a Red Bull or other energy drink in the morning/afternoon?
All of those kill it for me.
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No, never have I drank any energy drinks.
 
You definitely do not want to try to force it. Just wait and let her come to you. She sees you trying to get her and its turning her off. Like her cyclical lifecycle.
 
changalvia said:
I rarely use other subs at the moment, and was smoking on average of 1 - 2 - 3 Trips a week. A buddy of mine actually just had something strange happen, he saw a crystal with blood dripping into a bowl on 40mg and when he came down he noticed his nose was bleeding... Could this be from an increase in blood pressure?
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Reading this shocked me to the core.... :shock: has anyone else experienced this? The only problem I've had with DMT is when I over use it or binge (like 10-15 times a day) for a few days straight... when I do this I develop headaches and pressure in the head (although the pressure bit doesn't hurt it still slightly bothers me) and have since learnt to pace myself with this precious molecule. Something like what happened to your friend would totally turn me away from using DMT though. :(


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You are exactly right... you DO NOT want to chase DMT and the entities that reside within because when they catch a sense of this they will turn back on you. I partake in DMT when I have that "feel"... not saying it's not in the back of my mind a lot... I wouldn't mind doing DMT whenever I wanted but I don't do it whenever I "want" to.. it's more of a calling for me. I've been on a month break and I've had 5-6 chances to do DMT within that break (offered by a friend) but I just didn't have the "feel" I wanted so I turned him down no problem. It's a respect thing... I promise that respect is appreciated in the "nether realms" :thumb_up:
 
Psychonaut In Orbit said:
changalvia said:
I rarely use other subs at the moment, and was smoking on average of 1 - 2 - 3 Trips a week. A buddy of mine actually just had something strange happen, he saw a crystal with blood dripping into a bowl on 40mg and when he came down he noticed his nose was bleeding... Could this be from an increase in blood pressure?
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Reading this shocked me to the core.... :shock: has anyone else experienced this? The only problem I've had with DMT is when I over use it or binge (like 10-15 times a day) for a few days straight... when I do this I develop headaches and pressure in the head (although the pressure bit doesn't hurt it still slightly bothers me) and have since learnt to pace myself with this precious molecule. Something like what happened to your friend would totally turn me away from using DMT though. :(
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Could the headaches and other problems be caused by solvent traces or impurities? I always redissolve the spice in acetone to get rid of solvent traces and I have no headache issues.
 
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