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[quote:1417ce7713="mardybum"]I can understand why the govt have made LSD or mushrooms illegal, as some people do some stupid things while under the influence. But DMT? Where it's almost impossible to even walk around while tripping? I mean by doing LSD you may be putting others at risk as there are people who are dumb enough to drive or roam in public on high doses, but DMT where the only person at any sort of risk is yourself, I find that so stupid. Thankyou for this book, It will be an interesting read, i'll get started tonight.[/quote:1417ce7713] I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that.what about alcohol? People do much stupider things while in a drunken state than on any other drug yet it is legal.
 
maybe this is propaganda, but i read in the 60s they had heaps of people killing themselves and being hospitialised from having a bad trip. i can imagine if it was availabkle to anyone, idiots would take it as another way to get fucked, and have a bad trip or not be prepared for how powerful it is. sure if the govt wasnt so lazy there would be a way for lsd to be legal to the right people. but you think in the state society is in thats ever gunna happen? i don't. i am just amazed at how the govt can make dmt illegal when its one of the safest drugs around. sure although the laws against lsd are unjustified, but there is still the essence that you put others at risk, with dmt no one is at risk. i just think thats stupid.
 
Yeah alot those reports in the 60s where propaganda. Since when have you heard of people killing themselves on LSD since that period and where are all the people from the 60's that took LSD ? Apparently not all in mental institutions or else they would be full of them, more likely, most are about to retire after a sucessful career. People kill themselves and others from Alcohol every single hour of the day, yet what do the government care about that ? Not as much as they care about someone trying explore their very being using an Entheogen it would seem. They are so concerned about us that they would lock us up to stop us. If they really cared about drugs and health issues then they would need to approach the whole issue very differently. One way to stop many bad trips is for LSD (and other currently illegal drugs) to be made commercially. That way you would get a control dose amount and a pure dose.
 
[quote:9a7f693ccb="rightangle"]Yeah alot those reports in the 60s where propaganda.[/quote:9a7f693ccb] A lot, if not all! [quote:9a7f693ccb="rightangle"]People kill themselves and others from Alcohol every single hour of the day,[/quote:9a7f693ccb] Not to mention that tobacco kills a lot of people and quite a few prescription as well as OTC drugs too. [quote:9a7f693ccb="rightangle"]One way to stop many bad trips is for LSD (and other currently illegal drugs) to be made commercially. That way you would get a control dose amount and a pure dose.[/quote:9a7f693ccb] Amsterdam is a prime example for such a method of regulation of drugs
 
[b:9322b8a10c]Great book[/b:9322b8a10c] I've read it about 2 times, both times in hardcover. I have it signed, but a while ago i gave it away to a friend to share a book i love with someone.
 
[quote:8ebc1a7a5c="rightangle"]Yeah alot those reports in the 60s where propaganda. Since when have you heard of people killing themselves on LSD since that period and where are all the people from the 60's that took LSD ? Apparently not all in mental institutions or else they would be full of them, more likely, most are about to retire after a sucessful career.[/quote:8ebc1a7a5c] I have actually heard alot about suicide attempts while on LSD, not just from propaganda sites, both present and past. It is most likely that these reports are from people who were instable beforehand, but I did hear about one girl a few weeks ago, perfectly stable beforehand, no history of mental illness, took 3 tabs and stabbed herself multiple times and had to be rushed to hospital. [quote:8ebc1a7a5c="rightangle"]People kill themselves and others from Alcohol every single hour of the day, yet what do the government care about that ? Not as much as they care about someone trying explore their very being using an Entheogen it would seem. They are so concerned about us that they would lock us up to stop us. If they really cared about drugs and health issues then they would need to approach the whole issue very differently.[/quote:8ebc1a7a5c] I agree, LSD is essence is no more dangerous than alcohol. And I know, the percentage of people who actually get injured mentally or physically from LSD is so small, much smaller than alcohol. But the Govt atleast has a semi-valid reason for making it illegal, unlike DMT, where there is no valid reason. I agree, that reason for making LSD illegal contradicts the legality of alcohol.
 
[quote:e78f79a676] ..... But the Govt atleast has a semi-valid reason for making it illegal, .... [/quote:e78f79a676] That's one way to look at it. Personally I think that it is a human right to decide what one wants to do with their mind, particularly when they are trying to find insight into a world in which, as I previously said, we are all lost. Making Psychedelics illegal is on par with China banning Falun Gong and other religious practice and thought. The story about the girl that stabed herself is certainly sad. Our society is very good at producing "unstable" (in a very broad sense of the word) people, couple that with questionable drug purity / quantities, poor set and setting and uneducated / unguided use then sure, there will be problems with any drug, even, I would suggest, DMT.
 
[quote:e7463262a2="rightangle"]Personally I think that it is a human right to decide what one wants to do with their mind, Making Psychedelics illegal is on par with China banning Falun Gong and other religious practice and thought. Our society is very good at producing "unstable" (in a very broad sense of the word) people, couple that with questionable drug purity / quantities, poor set and setting and uneducated / unguided use then sure, there will be problems with any drug, even, I would suggest, DMT.[/quote:e7463262a2] Right on man! =D>
 
[quote:3c65e01d7f="mardybum"] I have actually heard alot about suicide attempts while on LSD, not just from propaganda sites, both present and past. It is most likely that these reports are from people who were instable beforehand, but I did hear about one girl a few weeks ago, perfectly stable beforehand, no history of mental illness, took 3 tabs and stabbed herself multiple times and had to be rushed to hospital. I agree, LSD is essence is no more dangerous than alcohol. And I know, the percentage of people who actually get injured mentally or physically from LSD is so small, much smaller than alcohol. But the Govt atleast has a semi-valid reason for making it illegal, unlike DMT, where there is no valid reason. I agree, that reason for making LSD illegal contradicts the legality of alcohol.[/quote:3c65e01d7f] Let's get one thing straight,there shouldn't such a thing as an illegal drug.you wanna put somthing in your body it's your fucking business.Psychedelics are a valuable tool for self exploration and shamanic practice.they are not a toy to be taken recreationally.You are suppopsed to be educated and well imfrormed about what you put in your body and if your not that makes you a fucking idiot and sorry to say,but one person that commits suicide just means one less idiot on this planet where 90 to 95% of the people are in fact idiots.some people use razor blades to cut thier veins to commit suicide,some use car exhaust,others jump off buildings.should razor blades,cars and building be illegalI think not.
 
[quote:f514e33171="quantumbrujo"][quote:f514e33171="mardybum"] I have actually heard alot about suicide attempts while on LSD, not just from propaganda sites, both present and past. It is most likely that these reports are from people who were instable beforehand, but I did hear about one girl a few weeks ago, perfectly stable beforehand, no history of mental illness, took 3 tabs and stabbed herself multiple times and had to be rushed to hospital. I agree, LSD is essence is no more dangerous than alcohol. And I know, the percentage of people who actually get injured mentally or physically from LSD is so small, much smaller than alcohol. But the Govt atleast has a semi-valid reason for making it illegal, unlike DMT, where there is no valid reason. I agree, that reason for making LSD illegal contradicts the legality of alcohol.[/quote:f514e33171] Let's get one thing straight,there shouldn't be such a thing as an illegal drug.you wanna put somthing in your body it's your fucking business.Psychedelics are a valuable tool for self exploration and shamanic practice.they are not a toy to be taken recreationally.You are suppopsed to be educated and well imfrormed about what you put in your body and if your not that makes you a fucking idiot and sorry to say,but one person that commits suicide just means one less idiot on this planet where 90 to 95% of the people are in fact idiots.some people use razor blades to cut thier veins to commit suicide,some use car exhaust,others jump off buildings.should razor blades,cars and buildings be illegal?? I think not.[/quote:f514e33171]
 
[quote:ff36e5ba50="quantumbrujo"]You are suppopsed to be educated and well imfrormed about what you put in your body and if your not that makes you a fucking idiot and sorry to say,but one person that commits suicide just means one less idiot on this planet where 90 to 95% of the people are in fact idiots.[/quote:ff36e5ba50] Hear, hear! =D> Sounds like something Bill Hicks would say. :lol:
 
[quote:eea80d7dd7="Taliesin the Alchemist"]Amsterdam is a prime example for such a method of regulation of drugs[/quote:eea80d7dd7] I haven't really followed the discussion. I just want to say that I live in Holland and that LSD is illegal here. It's not tolerated like pot or magic mushrooms, which are available in coffeeshops and smart shops. You can buy magic mushrooms when you're 16 and cannabis when you're 18 without a problem, but LSD is just as illegal as any other hard drug here in The Netherlands.
 
[quote:d94054df62="Taliesin the Alchemist"]Hear, hear! =D> Sounds like something Bill Hicks would say. :lol:[/quote:d94054df62] LOL, indeed Bill Hicks like: [quote:d94054df62]Bill Hicks: You never see a positive drugs story on the news, do ya? No. Always negative. But the news is supposed to be objective. I mean, isn't it supposed to be THE NEWS? But every drug story is negative? I've had some killer times on drugs! I'm not promoting it, but I'm not denying it. Same LSD story every time: "Young man on acid, thought he could fly jumped out of a building, what a tragedy." What a dick! He's an idiot. If he thought he could fly, why didn't he take off from the ground and check it out first? What a moron. We lost a moron. WE LOST A MORON!!! I don't mean to sound cold or cruel or vicious, but I am so that's the way it comes out. Professional help is being sought. But wouldn't you like to see a positive LSD story? Would that be newsworthy? To base your decision on information rather than scare tactics and superstition and lies? Just once, to hear what it's all about: Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death. Life is only a dream and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather! [/quote:d94054df62]
 
[quote:d481986d5a="The Traveler"][quote:d481986d5a="Taliesin the Alchemist"]Hear, hear! =D> Sounds like something Bill Hicks would say. :lol:[/quote:d481986d5a] LOL, indeed Bill Hicks like: [quote:d481986d5a]Bill Hicks: You never see a positive drugs story on the news, do ya? No. Always negative. But the news is supposed to be objective. I mean, isn't it supposed to be THE NEWS? But every drug story is negative? I've had some killer times on drugs! I'm not promoting it, but I'm not denying it. Same LSD story every time: "Young man on acid, thought he could fly jumped out of a building, what a tragedy." What a dick! He's an idiot. If he thought he could fly, why didn't he take off from the ground and check it out first? What a moron. We lost a moron. WE LOST A MORON!!! I don't mean to sound cold or cruel or vicious, but I am so that's the way it comes out. Professional help is being sought. But wouldn't you like to see a positive LSD story? Would that be newsworthy? To base your decision on information rather than scare tactics and superstition and lies? Just once, to hear what it's all about: Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death. Life is only a dream and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather! [/quote:d481986d5a][/quote:d481986d5a] Hey that's some funny shit.I only heard of the name Bill Hicks but I don't know who he is.you should come check out e-dot where I host what I call "Quantum's Idiot of the week award" in the flame pit.I even nominated myself once as the idiot of the week lol
 
Yeah I like this guy Bill Hicks,but both links are identical.The one about DMT I had seen it before,but thanks anyways.
 
[quote:8ad3f379da="Doerak"][quote:8ad3f379da="Taliesin the Alchemist"]Amsterdam is a prime example for such a method of regulation of drugs[/quote:8ad3f379da] I haven't really followed the discussion. I just want to say that I live in Holland and that LSD is illegal here. It's not tolerated like pot or magic mushrooms, which are available in coffeeshops and smart shops. You can buy magic mushrooms when you're 16 and cannabis when you're 18 without a problem, but LSD is just as illegal as any other hard drug here in The Netherlands.[/quote:8ad3f379da] My bad. I guess I shoulda' did a little research before I posted that. Man you live in Holland! I'm jealous! :lol: Is it hard to become a citizen in Holland? I've thought about moving there many times. I suppose I'll visit first though. :) Bill Hicks is the MAN! :!:
 
[quote:395e42e346="Taliesin the Alchemist"]Is it hard to become a citizen in Holland? I've thought about moving there many times. I suppose I'll visit first though. :)[/quote:395e42e346] It's getting harder and harder to become a citizen in The Netherlands, thanks to some right wing politicians supported by a story-hungry media who's always looking for that special something/someone bashing story. But that said, the weather ain't that bad since last years global warming. ;)
 
[quote:f295bf6b4a]Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death. Life is only a dream and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather![/quote:f295bf6b4a] I always throught Tool wrote that ! It's in the last song on Anima.
 
Hey good peoples, I just read the whole post and I agree that people should not be restricted on the drugs they take and every thing should be legal but lets face it. Has it stopped anyone on this site from doing it anyway? When was the last time you thought "I really want that mushy but I wont cause its illegal"? I think that rules are for the people who want to follow them. As for the communities it sounds great but really no one is stopping anyone from living in a small group and growing their own veggies. I love coming home to my TV and central heating. There is a big difference between talking about these things and actually doing them. I am not putting anyone down and I think it would help human evolution to live like that but humans think short term. How many of you are going to rebuke the modern way when you are cold and hungry? Dont take this the wrong way, I still love you all :D .
 
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