Dmt tolerance and dosage

[ChrisC607]

I am an experienced Dmt user. And I am lucky enough to have access to as much as I could ever want. I started off making it into an eliquid. Which is an absolutely wonderful way to use it. It allows you the ability to control your dosage, and if you want, you can basically trip as long as you would like to because of how simple and convenient it is. As much as I love to go all the way with it, i realized that it had an affect on my anxiety at lower dosages. It kept my nerves calm and I loved that. So throughout my day I would be taking puffs here and there. Before bed I like to go all the way, it's a great way to fall asleep. And one day I realized it doesn't work on me anymore. No matter how many puffs I took, it didn't seem to work. I ended up doing half a gram to a gram and nothing. I felt kinda weird. Not a shred of anxiety or worry in me at all. But no trip. So I waited a few days. I also decided to try a new method. The Yocan Orbit. It is a device meant for thc concentrates. It took a bit of messing around trying to master how to use it, i ended up putting the atomizer on a box mod for more control of temp. But it was amazing how potent it was. I had never hit it pure before. And I started with the ecig again. And 2 days in, I couldn't trip again. With the Orbit, I gave it a good try but it just made me feel kinda weird. And super confident. Sucks that didn't last. So I waited a few days. And I went to do it again, and I wanted a good breakthrough or beyond trip. I hit it 6 or 7 times. I barely knew what was going on. And I went for one more and it was like I got slammed straight back into reality. The trip was gone. I felt a bit nauseated, but not too bad. Things were weird feeling. But I definitely was not tripping.

Has anyone had this type of affect with DMT before? I know it is good and it is pure. I double recrystalized it after extraction.

I actually sometimes prefer it unpure. Depends on which pull it is. First 2 or 3 are good, last one needs the recrystallization.

I have had other try it as well. 2 or 3 puffs and they are gone gone. One chick said she went to see her dead father and had conversations with him. She also pissed herself. Lol. It is good.

My tolerance has been weird since. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't. And it doesn't matter how much I use.

 

[Transform]

Yes, effects like yours - lack of effects, in some cases - has been reported time and again from what is essentially overuse. Some report that the effects return after more or less of a longer break - months to years - and maybe a reassessment of their attitudes around the molecule. Even though DMT doesn't build tolerance in quite the same way as practically all of the other, longer-lasting serotonergic psychedelics, it will nonetheless stop working for a certain proportion of people who keep chipping away at it too regularly. The unpredictability of it whether it works for you or not is highly puzzling, however.

One [female] said she went to see her dead father and had conversations with him. She also pissed herself. Lol. It is good.

It is indeed a good idea to make sure you have an empty bladder before embarking on a DMT journey. This is something worthy of reminding oneself, and I've had a couple of close calls myself. Standing up in order to go and pee in the bushes proved to be highly challenging in the midst of an intense DMT launch. Were the dose any stronger, I too would have come round with soggy pants to deal with. So remember to show some empathy for your female friend, and perhaps remind people to visit the bathroom before blasting off next time you're thinking of sharing the molecule!

Finally, welcome to the Nexus, have a great day

 

[Varallo]

Hi Chris,

It’s time for a good long break, a couple of weeks and perhaps months should do the trick. After that you can slowly start and see if you are still locked out. My advice would be to not continue use and find other things to relax and deal with the stresses of life and use dmt on occasion. After all using drugs is not really a sustainable way to live life and even if the anxiety is something that is causing you problems it’s much more fulfilling to deal with it than to hide behind the high of any drug.

From my experience having been locked out after a period of abuse, the only thing that helped was time and other things to do, continued use results for most in a horrible trip that is traumatic, a hyper slap.

Now two decades later I have a more healthy approach and trip on a regular basis once or twice a month with no diminishing effects.

Take care and all the best with your journey

 

[aks]

I am an experienced Dmt user. And I am lucky enough to have access to as much as I could ever want. I started off making it into an eliquid. Which is an absolutely wonderful way to use it. It allows you the ability to control your dosage, and if you want, you can basically trip as long as you would like to because of how simple and convenient it is. As much as I love to go all the way with it, i realized that it had an affect on my anxiety at lower dosages. It kept my nerves calm and I loved that. So throughout my day I would be taking puffs here and there. Before bed I like to go all the way, it's a great way to fall asleep. And one day I realized it doesn't work on me anymore. No matter how many puffs I took, it didn't seem to work. I ended up doing half a gram to a gram and nothing. I felt kinda weird. Not a shred of anxiety or worry in me at all. But no trip. So I waited a few days. I also decided to try a new method. The Yocan Orbit. It is a device meant for thc concentrates. It took a bit of messing around trying to master how to use it, i ended up putting the atomizer on a box mod for more control of temp. But it was amazing how potent it was. I had never hit it pure before. And I started with the ecig again. And 2 days in, I couldn't trip again. With the Orbit, I gave it a good try but it just made me feel kinda weird. And super confident. Sucks that didn't last. So I waited a few days. And I went to do it again, and I wanted a good breakthrough or beyond trip. I hit it 6 or 7 times. I barely knew what was going on. And I went for one more and it was like I got slammed straight back into reality. The trip was gone. I felt a bit nauseated, but not too bad. Things were weird feeling. But I definitely was not tripping.

Has anyone had this type of affect with DMT before? I know it is good and it is pure. I double recrystalized it after extraction.

I actually sometimes prefer it unpure. Depends on which pull it is. First 2 or 3 are good, last one needs the recrystallization.

I have had other try it as well. 2 or 3 puffs and they are gone gone. One chick said she went to see her dead father and had conversations with him. She also pissed herself. Lol. It is good.

My tolerance has been weird since. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't. And it doesn't matter how much I use.

This is the exact thing I've been dealing with was wondering if I was the only one .

 

[ermit]

Thanks for the feedback/report, it's quite interesting!

Can't wait to have more scientific findings in this area (it takes time!)

My personal hypothesis/intuition:

There are maybe 2 types of tolerance mechanisms at work:
1. the tolerance to the molecule itself (primary tolerance)
2. the tolerance linked to the cascade of metabolic effects and neural regulations provoked by the molecule.


The first one is "easy" to study and measure, altought there are genetics-linked and environmental-linked interindividual variability involved.

The second one is quite deep and complex and still not very well understood.


The reddit microdosing sub has an interesting (on-going/wip) wiki page about this topic:

https://www.reddit.com/r/microdosing/comments/vu5jpw/faqtip_020_what_causes_tolerance_functional

 

[Phenethylamine23]

I'd say it's more something to do with depleating some brain chemical or burning brain receptors. Often a complaint of madmen who smoke a gram one sitting.