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Doctors said I almost died from LSD
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And it is so. Pass Go and collect $200.
Hehe, I successfully channeled Michelle Obama and she told me, that lacing weed or damiama is common practice. Just replace PCP with the ~ 150 arylcyclohexylamine derivatives and DOC with the 1300 compounds mentioned in the Shulgin Index:Psybin said:
Arylcyclohexylamine - Wikipedia
The pure chemicals are purchased in bulk, then they're dissolved in a solvent like acetone, the acetone-cannabinoid solution is poured over an inert plant carrier, generally damiana, and the acetone is evaporated, leaving a cannabinoid-impregnated leaf that's stuffed into foil envelopes and sold. The profit margin is enormous. Often the amount of chemical in one of these packets that sells for $15 would be a small fraction of a dollar, if not a fraction of a cent.
Visiting the Factories in China Where Synthetic Marijuana Gets Made
Despite evolving public health regulations, synthetic weed has often been found in corner stores and bodegas around America. But where it originates is a bit murkier.www.vice.com
This damiana is infused with synthetic cannabinoids to create a fake weed like.
Now I don't know the practice in US, if the weed may or may be not laced with PCP or meth or smt like that.
Also maybe the doctor was being dramatic to urge you to stop your drug using. I think they often do that ( being overdramatic to have a reaction from your part ).
Now the fact that you couldn't go down for 7 days, for me, is already a clear sign that you have ( beside increase in heartbeat ) abnormal reaction that seems problematic, so yes, Looks like whatever you took that day, is risky for you.
Now I don't know the practice in US, if the weed may or may be not laced with PCP or meth or smt like that.
Also maybe the doctor was being dramatic to urge you to stop your drug using. I think they often do that ( being overdramatic to have a reaction from your part ).
Now the fact that you couldn't go down for 7 days, for me, is already a clear sign that you have ( beside increase in heartbeat ) abnormal reaction that seems problematic, so yes, Looks like whatever you took that day, is risky for you.
rOm said:
ultraviolence
Rising Star
Of course it can. Eat a gramm or two. And when suicidal persons ingest LSD and kill themselves because of LSD-induced psychosis, it was the LSD.
The MP of freebase LSD is 85°C.
Ask Erowid : ID 1790 : Is it possible to smoke LSD?
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I'd be careful with the "pulling things out of their ass" comments in the future. Doesn't make you look intelligent.
How necessary or constructive is it to comment on how intelligent someone else seems?
Also, if someone kills themselves while they were on alcohol, nobody says it was the alcohol, just like it would be incorrect to say it was the LSD. Also the coroner's report wont say 'cause of death: lsd intoxication', the cause of death is whatever way they chose to take their lives. You can say that the psychedelic trip in wrong set and setting has exacerbated previous mental issues and the person killed themselves while under the influence, but cause of death is not directly LSD.
Also, how do you know a gram of LSD will kill someone? Speculation, not fact.. Also why would anybody take that much? And what sense is it to say that, apart from merely arguing for the sake of it, given the context of the discussion is a person taking one single hit, not a gram, of LSD?
Lastly, just because LSD has a melting point of 85 C doesnt mean smoking LSD won't destroy it. I think erowid is generally great but im not sure if "a report from a long time LSD user" without further details on how the experiment was conducted is in any way reliable to say whether smoked LSD works, and to what extent.. Is it 0%? 1%? 10%? 90%? Hard to make any conclusions here
Also, if someone kills themselves while they were on alcohol, nobody says it was the alcohol, just like it would be incorrect to say it was the LSD. Also the coroner's report wont say 'cause of death: lsd intoxication', the cause of death is whatever way they chose to take their lives. You can say that the psychedelic trip in wrong set and setting has exacerbated previous mental issues and the person killed themselves while under the influence, but cause of death is not directly LSD.
Also, how do you know a gram of LSD will kill someone? Speculation, not fact.. Also why would anybody take that much? And what sense is it to say that, apart from merely arguing for the sake of it, given the context of the discussion is a person taking one single hit, not a gram, of LSD?
Lastly, just because LSD has a melting point of 85 C doesnt mean smoking LSD won't destroy it. I think erowid is generally great but im not sure if "a report from a long time LSD user" without further details on how the experiment was conducted is in any way reliable to say whether smoked LSD works, and to what extent.. Is it 0%? 1%? 10%? 90%? Hard to make any conclusions here
In this case it made sense to me.endlessness said:
LD100 of LSD is assumed to be ~ 14mg. I'd say the folks who claim that LSD can't kill people, should put their money where their mouth is and ingest ~ 100mg.
Stupidity? Suicidal? Archiving supreme enlightenment? Trying to figure out the LD100 dose of LSD?
Ufostrahlen said:
That LD100 (or LD50) estimation is based on rabbits and elephant... I'm sure you can see the issue with that.
People have consumed ridiculous amounts of acid that are definitely higher than 14mg before in history and have not died. While I bet people fabricated some thumbprint stories, there have been people that have truly done that and taken very high amounts without dying. Im not one of them, and I wouldnt recommend, though
Also why your jump from 14mg to 100mg? If 14mg is the LD100 as the speculation you quoted, then nobody would need to go higher since they would have died... Or do you not trust that number yourself?
What amounts do people sniff cocaine, usually? Definitely higher than 14mg, correct? Well if those 8 hospitalized people after sniffing LSD thinking it was coke (Klock et al 1975) did not die, isn't that already a clear evidence against that 14mg number? Its obvious at some point it will be dangerous.. ("Hey, you healthy people saying sprouts are healthy? Put your money where your mouth is, lets see if you can eat 25kgs of sprouts" )
I think generally people who take mg+ LSD doses have raised the bar more or less gradually and are deep enough in the game that they should know what they are doing. Not many people will be taking more than a couple mgs, and I think with most substances there are diminishing returns, probably better avoid even higher amounts.
If I drop a truckload of LSD on top of you, you will die plastered by it.. But to start arguing that "LSD can kill people" from those ridiculous outlier cases seems unnecessary imo. We get your point, nothing is 100% harmless, ultraviolence words were in absolute terms so it deserved to be highlighted/corrected.. But maybe better not go to the other extreme, specially because this is a discussion coming from a specific case of a member who took a single hit and thought was dying, which pharmacologically is a very improbable, if not downright impossible scenario, dont you agree?
And to the OP:
Thanks for the answers.. From the information you say my guess would be you indeed took LSD, but are a very sensitive person in general, and at least in part due to set/setting, have gone through a longer lasting psychological difficulty.. The important thing is you are back now. I think best you can do is work on the integration of the experience, and work on your life in general, just try to keep healthy positive habits, and do not consume any drugs at least for now.
Give it some time, maybe it will make sense why things happened that way... Maybe further down the line you'll decide to give it another go at very small doses after doing a propper medical check up, and in a good context. Or maybe you'll decide to just keep away from it in general. Either way I wish you the best in your path.
Thanks for the answers.. From the information you say my guess would be you indeed took LSD, but are a very sensitive person in general, and at least in part due to set/setting, have gone through a longer lasting psychological difficulty.. The important thing is you are back now. I think best you can do is work on the integration of the experience, and work on your life in general, just try to keep healthy positive habits, and do not consume any drugs at least for now.
Give it some time, maybe it will make sense why things happened that way... Maybe further down the line you'll decide to give it another go at very small doses after doing a propper medical check up, and in a good context. Or maybe you'll decide to just keep away from it in general. Either way I wish you the best in your path.
ultraviolence
Rising Star
Ufostrahlen
The fact that someone wrote an article saying that someone laced weed with either PCP or LSD is an uneducated statement, that is why I said they pulled it out of their ass. One of those is commonly smoked, the other one is basically never smoked. It would be the same as saying someone spiked a drink with weed or ghb, one of those makes sense, the other doesn't.
Also, anyone who was able to come into possession of 1g of LSD is smart enough not to eat it recklessly, that's not the sort of thing that's just floating around the streets.
I'm not too sure how I was speaking in absolutes, I feel like I was more voicing my opinion and backing it up with solid info/ideas. But either way, endlessness seems to be on the same page as me, maybe he just communicates it better.
The fact that someone wrote an article saying that someone laced weed with either PCP or LSD is an uneducated statement, that is why I said they pulled it out of their ass. One of those is commonly smoked, the other one is basically never smoked. It would be the same as saying someone spiked a drink with weed or ghb, one of those makes sense, the other doesn't.
Also, anyone who was able to come into possession of 1g of LSD is smart enough not to eat it recklessly, that's not the sort of thing that's just floating around the streets.
I'm not too sure how I was speaking in absolutes, I feel like I was more voicing my opinion and backing it up with solid info/ideas. But either way, endlessness seems to be on the same page as me, maybe he just communicates it better.