Does Hyperspace sounds anything like Theta/Delta brainwaves technology???

[mescaline-man]

I've heard people describe hyperspace sounding mechanical and stuff and iv'e been watching alot of Bill Donahue videos lately decoding the bible, man that guy is awesome, I just got this idea, I'm thinking that since brainwave technology is supposed to lower your waves, for instance Delta waves will lower your brain waves to 4 cycles per second, you can train yourself to be awake in the Delta state of mind which is basically your subconscious mind and you'll be awake & aware while unconscious so to speak, sort of like dmt, but theta is way easier and more beneficial for anxiety and lucid dreams and such. You can get there just by meditating but the technology especially when it's infused with hypnosis will definetly speed up the process, and dmt will skyrocket you probably to the deepest level of waves - delta - or possibly the gamma state from all the adrenaline being pumped into the system experiencing timelessness like the example of the car crash below. I'm wondering if hyperspace sounds anything like these waves and how many cycles per second/hurtz your brain is when you get a good dose of dmt because these have to be related some how or another and i think some good research should go into this.

Here's the levels of brainwaves and their relation to consciousness:
Beta brain waves, measured at 13-40 Hz/cycles per second, are the brain state of our normal waking consciousness. Nearly all forms of action, thinking, and problem solving are done with a beta brain wave. Most people spend most of their waking lives in a beta state.
Alpha brain waves, measured at 7-13 Hz/cps, are the brain state of relaxation and meditation. The alpha state is associated with creativity and super learning, where the brain learns at a faster and deeper level than it does in beta. Most meditation and energy healing techniques cultivate and utilize an alpha brain wave for relaxation and healing.
Theta brain waves, measured at 4-7 Hz/cps, are the brain state of REM sleep (dreams), hypnosis, lucid dreaming, and the barely conscious state just before sleeping and just after waking. Theta is the border between the conscious and the subconscious world, and by learning to use a conscious, waking Theta brain wave we can access and influence the powerful subconscious part of ourselves that is normally inaccessible to our waking minds. While in the Theta state, the mind is capable of deep and profound learning, healing, and growth - it is the brain wave where our minds can connect to the Divine and manifest changes in the material world.
Delta brain waves, measured at less than 4 Hz/cps, are the brain state of deep sleep and unconsciousness.
Gamma brain waves, measured at 40+ Hz/cps, are the brain state of hyperalertness, perception, and integration of sensory input. When time seems to slow down during a car accident, the brain is entering a high gamma state.

Delta Waves 1-4 cps
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Theta Waves 4-7 cps
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Iv'e been doing these waves for years and it helps for meditating and will put you to sleep if you do it long enough only to find yourself in some wild vivid dreams because all the energy you focus up to your brain meditating i'm guessing it might be the dmt. It won't give you dreams everytime but it's consistent never the less.

 

[Global]

I wouldn't really say that the sounds I hear in hyperspace sound much like the waves in those videos. I'm quite familiar with brain entrainment technology (I have a mind machine), and none of it in my experience really reminds me of the hyperspace sounds I hear. Something I will note is that for me, sound waves in hyperspace tend to generally be of a relatively high frequency. Alpha, theta and delta waves are of very low frequency. Sometimes there are what sound like automated computeresque sequences of high pitches that cycle along. They are high frequency pitches, but perhaps the rate at which the tones change reflect a lower frequency rate in a similar way to how one can take high frequency pitches that are relatively close together as binaural beats, and though the frequency of the pitches is high, the rhythmic frequency of the beats is relatively low (i.e. in the alpha/theta/delta range).

 

[mescaline-man]

I wouldn't really say that the sounds I hear in hyperspace sound much like the waves in those videos. I'm quite familiar with brain entrainment technology (I have a mind machine), and none of it in my experience really reminds me of the hyperspace sounds I hear. Something I will note is that for me, sound waves in hyperspace tend to generally be of a relatively high frequency. Alpha, theta and delta waves are of very low frequency. Sometimes there are what sound like automated computeresque sequences of high pitches that cycle along. They are high frequency pitches, but perhaps the rate at which the tones change reflect a lower frequency rate in a similar way to how one can take high frequency pitches that are relatively close together as binaural beats, and though the frequency of the pitches is high, the rhythmic frequency of the beats is relatively low (i.e. in the alpha/theta/delta range).

That's pretty interesting, maybe when you first go up on dmt you might be in the gamma or beta state because of the fight or flight response and adrenaline rush and as it progresses in the dmt realm it lowers down into theta and delta brainwaves experiencing the subconscious/ collective unconscious. This would be exciting to know what's going on with your brainwaves throughout your launch from start to finish into hyperspace. If anyone find's any information brainwave activity while on dmt please post it here.

 

[zapped17]

That's pretty interesting, maybe when you first go up on dmt you might be in the gamma or beta state because of the fight or flight response and adrenaline rush and as it progresses in the dmt realm it lowers down into theta and delta brainwaves experiencing the subconscious/ collective unconscious. This would be exciting to know what's going on with your brainwaves throughout your launch from start to finish into hyperspace. If anyone find's any information brainwave activity while on dmt please post it here.

For a while now, I have been scouring the online scientific databases for such information. Unfortunately, it seems not one single study has been conducted investigating the neural correlates of pure DMT in humans.

There are, however, several published studies which investigate the associated brain states of participants on ayahuasca. (I have the majority of these studies saved, so if anyone wants me to post them, I'll happily oblige.) I regard these studies as being quite interesting, but only tangentially related to the question. Ayahuasca admixtures are primarily comprised of beta-carbolines alkaloids. Dmt is often there, but in smaller amounts. Since b-carbs do have action in the brain (themselves capable of eliciting psychedelic effects), there is no way to distinguish the correlates of dmt from the correlates these other alkaloids on the basis of the ayahuasca studies mentioned above. Furthermore, it has been found that some psychedelically potent ayahuasca decoctions do not even contain dmt when analyzed. So we cannot even suppose that dmt is partially responsible for the effects reported.

EEG findings in the aforementioned research is, not surprisingly, mixed. One of the more recent, comprehensive, studies on ayahuasca found widespread gamma coherence in the brain, as measured by eeg. The authors note that these levels of gamma synchrony are akin to the levels of gamma synchrony observed in meditating Buddhist monks (who, in one study, exhibited the highest levels of gamma coherence ever recorded).

I'd be curious to know what the neural correlates of a DMT breakthrough are. (Abrupt changes in readings, or not? Either finding would be interesting). Also, what is occurring in the brain with so-called entity encounters?

 

[mescaline-man]

EEG findings in the aforementioned research is, not surprisingly, mixed. One of the more recent, comprehensive, studies on ayahuasca found widespread gamma coherence in the brain, as measured by eeg. The authors note that these levels of gamma synchrony are akin to the levels of gamma synchrony observed in meditating Buddhist monks (who, in one study, exhibited the highest levels of gamma coherence ever recorded).

Thanks for your reply, wow that's pretty amazing. Please post that information if you want.
So instead of going toward the slower brainwaves of the subconscious areas or theta and delta it's actually going into gamma, so maybe this is possible proof that were accessing another dimension if the projections people are seeing with ayahuasca are not from the subconscious. You think?

 

[zapped17]

Thanks for your reply, wow that's pretty amazing. Please post that information if you want.
So instead of going toward the slower brainwaves of the subconscious areas or theta and delta it's actually going into gamma, so maybe this is possible proof that were accessing another dimension if the projections people are seeing with ayahuasca are not from the subconscious. You think?

Yes, I'l try and attach some of those files. Excuse the (incomplete) highlighting in some of those (After reading over the articles once, I started highlighting the sections I found most relevant to my own interests, as well as the sections that accord with info in other articles :thumb_up: )

As far as accessing "another dimensions" v.s. accessing "subconscious aspects of one's mind" - that's a whole other story (albeit a very interesting one). The ontological status of dmt induced states is unclear at the present time, and there are a myriad of positions one can take.

What we do know is the following: certain seratonergic psychedelic substances act to reduce the sensory gating or filtering mechanisms in the brain (e.g., at the thalamus), leading to sensory overload in the frontal cortex. Thus, information that is ordinarily filtered from consciousness is able to reach awareness.

The high frequency gamma synchrony is indicative of an increase in cortical activation/arousal with enhanced information processing and enhanced neural and cognitive complexity. (Gamma is theorized to be associated with the binding of information in awareness.)

It should also be noted that the levels of gamma synchrony observed in said ayahuasca studies were comparable to levels of gamma synchrony recorded in meditating tibetan buddhist monks. Furthermore, these monks had self-induced the highest amplitudes of gamma ever recorded (Lutz et al. 2004).

 

[virtualmark]

I have used brainwave entrainment for meditation dozens of times - there's a program called brainwave generator which basically creates binaural beats. It's pretty old now, but the sites still there, there should be dozens of user presets too.

I found it to be pretty relaxing, but i also found a lot of the claims to be exaggerated, such as superlearning, or hgh production, sleep induction etc. Personally i wouldn't say that binaural beats are any more useful than white noise as a meditation aid. It gives you something to focus on, but as far as i'm aware there's no proof of it having an actual effect on your brainwave patterns. I'd be interested to read any research that says otherwise if anyone has any links?

DMT is the most alien thing i have ever tried - like being stung in the head by a space wasp. I was totally gone when i first tried it, there is nothing in this world i can compare it to. I've tried lsd dozens of times, mushrooms, they're not even close to a breakthrough DMT experience.

So, from my own experience i'd say no, brainwave entrainment isn't even close to a DMT experience. But certainly a useful meditation aid.

 

[Global]

I found it to be pretty relaxing, but i also found a lot of the claims to be exaggerated, such as superlearning, or hgh production, sleep induction etc. Personally i wouldn't say that binaural beats are any more useful than white noise as a meditation aid. It gives you something to focus on, but as far as i'm aware there's no proof of it having an actual effect on your brainwave patterns. I'd be interested to read any research that says otherwise if anyone has any links?

I'll see if I can find the link, but I recall reading a double blind study in which the participants were entrained with theta waves while the control group received a placebo treatment and none of the participants were aware of the purpose of the study. Their grades on academic tests were recorded before and after and it was shown to be statistically significant that the students who received the theta entrainment did substantially better than the control group.

 

[blacklist666]

Here's what I heard once like octaves stacking over top each other spiraling around as I witness this spiral moving vibrating multiple levels down, each one vibrated it's own tone inside a tone.

 

[virtualmark]

I'll see if I can find the link, but I recall reading a double blind study in which the participants were entrained with theta waves while the control group received a placebo treatment and none of the participants were aware of the purpose of the study. Their grades on academic tests were recorded before and after and it was shown to be statistically significant that the students who received the theta entrainment did substantially better than the control group.

Yeah i'd certainly be interested to read the article if you can find it. I wonder if the effect is due to the entrainment, or if its just an effect from having a constant tone to meditate to? Was there evidence that it actually changed their brainwave frequencies?

The reason i ask is that there is something called the ganzfeld effect. Its the reason a lot of people sleep well when there's heavy rain outside - it's a constant soft noise so your brain filters it out. It also masks any smaller sudden noises such as a tap dripping or a clock ticking which might otherwise have kept you awake.

I've used white noise for meditation before and it definitely helped, but i'd be interested to know if there's any difference when binaural beats are introduced.

 

[Cosmic_Reality]

I havent been to Hyperspace yet. But I kinda have an idea about the sounds, mainly from user reports...But I'm pretty familiar with Binurial Beats, I'v even made my own. There pretty easy if you have Audacity on your pc. But I notice during meditation while listing to that, I have some pretty interesting feelings... Since they all use different frequency's there might be some correlation between the two...But to have a better idea I'll have to take the trip.

 

[mescaline-man]

I havent been to Hyperspace yet. But I kinda have an idea about the sounds, mainly from user reports...But I'm pretty familiar with Binurial Beats, I'v even made my own. There pretty easy if you have Audacity on your pc. But I notice during meditation while listing to that, I have some pretty interesting feelings... Since they all use different frequency's there might be some correlation between the two...But to have a better idea I'll have to take the trip.

Same here.

 

[zapped17]

I havent been to Hyperspace yet. But I kinda have an idea about the sounds, mainly from user reports...But I'm pretty familiar with Binurial Beats, I'v even made my own. There pretty easy if you have Audacity on your pc. But I notice during meditation while listing to that, I have some pretty interesting feelings... Since they all use different frequency's there might be some correlation between the two...But to have a better idea I'll have to take the trip.

Coming from a nascent explorer who has both experienced the dmt hyperspace and binaural beats, swim can attest to the fact that hyperspace "sounds" nothing remotely like binaural beats technology. The rising carrier wave experienced during the threshold level sounds nothing like binaural beats, either.

Furthermore, as I posted above, EEG data of human subjects on ayahuasca reveals hyper-coherent gamma waves. This is currently science's best correlate of dmt action in the brain.

 

[mescaline-man]

I havent been to Hyperspace yet. But I kinda have an idea about the sounds, mainly from user reports...But I'm pretty familiar with Binurial Beats, I'v even made my own. There pretty easy if you have Audacity on your pc. But I notice during meditation while listing to that, I have some pretty interesting feelings... Since they all use different frequency's there might be some correlation between the two...But to have a better idea I'll have to take the trip.

Coming from a nascent explorer who has both experienced the dmt hyperspace and binaural beats, swim can attest to the fact that hyperspace "sounds" nothing remotely like binaural beats technology. The rising carrier wave experienced during the threshold level sounds nothing like binaural beats, either.

Furthermore, as I posted above, EEG data of human subjects on ayahuasca reveals hyper-coherent gamma waves. This is currently science's best correlate of dmt action in the brain.

Thank you for your input on this. :thumb_up:

 

[Global]

I'll see if I can find the link, but I recall reading a double blind study in which the participants were entrained with theta waves while the control group received a placebo treatment and none of the participants were aware of the purpose of the study. Their grades on academic tests were recorded before and after and it was shown to be statistically significant that the students who received the theta entrainment did substantially better than the control group.

Yeah i'd certainly be interested to read the article if you can find it. I wonder if the effect is due to the entrainment, or if its just an effect from having a constant tone to meditate to? Was there evidence that it actually changed their brainwave frequencies?

The effect seems to be due to entrainment because the placebo still had binaural beats, but not in the coherent manner with which the binaural beats used to entrain a theta-state were applied. Subjectively the control and experimental groups would perceive the seemingly same stimuli, so it seems unlikely that the ganzfield effect played a major role.

 

[smoalker]

What I hear in hyperspace is a sort of frequency that pulses and changes rhythm which results in the visuals of the trip changing with it .
The sound is like nothing I have ever heard in reality and it almost feels like my ears arnt even hearing it , its more like its happening in my brain (obviously) , its really hard to explain .
I also hear voices that go along with the frequency , they just mumble things like " nowa nowa nowa nowa hummmm nowa humm nowa hmm nowa wo wo wo"