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Does this look right? (Mescaline Extraction)

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EverGreen

EverGreen

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Hi I just extracted mescaline using 69ron's Tek.

I ended up with very dark brown sticky stuff. Is it ok to take it like that? (see picture)

Another question I have is about the extraction materials (see picture further down below). They have poison warnings on them, and I assume that's normal...
But since everything is supposed to be food grade I ask to be sure, because I don't want to accidentally poison myself.

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Evergreen,

What kind of Cactus did you use? and what method did you use to evap your vinegar/HCL?
When I dry in the oven it comes out much darker like what you have. Drying under a fan gives me a nice white/tan powder. However my darker tar like extracts have been potent, so I don't think you have a real problem. Good luck, and enjoy, Cactus is amazing.
 
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I used 4 san pedro cacti (trichocereus pachanoi), 25-30 cm cuttings (144 gram dried).

I ended up with 0.5 gram in the end (could have been more probably but I ran out of d-limonene).

For evap. I used a pan on a stove and the radiator or full (for the 2nd batch).
 
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I've taken 140 mg of this stuff now, 1.5 hours ago.

Question, on erowid it says the onset is 45 - 60 minutes for Mescaline HCl.
The at 69ron's tech it says "It definitely comes on much quicker than mescaline HCl".

So then I assume I took too little because I'm not noticing any effects...

But then here it says "It was less than 100mg, but she noticed effects at around the five hour point".

Anyone can clue me in which one is right? Would make me help to decide to take more or wait.
I ate a light breakfast and then took the stuff 3 hours later.
 
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hi,,

my first attempt at 69ron's limetek, ended poorly because i decided to dry my yellow extract in the oven, then left it unattended for a few minutes, and everything was scorched dark brow like in your pic. reading further into it, i discovered that ron states that mescaline acetate is heat sensitive and so it should be dried with NO heat, or kept under 110f in a dehydrator. i took over 300mg of my darkened extract and felt nothing. also, you can recycle your limonene and reuse it at least several times.

although i like the lime extraction due to no water and no boiling, a drawback is the large amount of vinegar to evap.

an alternative to salting out with vinegar would be to use fasipa like in narmz fumarate tek. i thought it might be a good blend of excellent teks to start with a limetek, then finish with fasipa to get white alks with little cleanup and no long evap times. have not heard of anyone trying this yet.
 
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Yeah I also felt nothing, or I did, Actually I'm not sure, it felt like I did, but it wasn't pronounced enough to be sure it was the mesc acting (I ended up waiting the 140mg dose out). Next time I'll just take all that's left, 350mg. If that doesn't work either I'll just keep tekking around until I've got something that works.

Thanks for the fasipa tip. I just looked here to learn more about it: Mescaline Fumarate Details - Preparation - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus. Then did a goog search for fasipa, but no stuff that I can buy came up. Do you know at what kind of stores I can get it?
 
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Hi Evergreen,

I tried the vinegar tek twice and ended up with that brown goo both times, also with minimum heat evaporation. Forum member oneisall has some got tips on getting it cleaner but I didn't have luck with it. Search for 'Goo factor'.
Salting with Hcl gave me a very clean product (after acetone wash) and is just as easy to do as with vinegar. I was hesitant at first because I thought there could be Hcl residue in it, but after some forum input it was clear that excess Hcl evaporates off.
150 mg of Hcl can be felt easily. Light sources are getting all glowish, things start to morph a little and you feel in a very very good mood. 150 mg of the acetate gave me a far weaker experience. It wasn't cleaned with MEK though so the product was probably only 75 mg of mescaline. 250-300 mg of the Hcl gives me a rather deep experience.
You could give it a try with your next extraction. Pretty sure you'll end up with some nice tan or white crystals.
Good luck with your future mescaline research.

One more note: you can easily convert your goo to Hcl. I did this with my second vinegar extraction. Just add diluted Hcl (I used 10% hardware store Hcl with water at 1/5 ratio) until the goo has been dissolved and than evaporate again and wash with acetone.
 
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Hi Poekus, thanks for your suggestions. My concern with HCL is the same as yours initially was (don't want to end up poisoning myself).
But maybe like you say it's not so risky.

I'm researching it now, so far I'm not really finding an authoritative HCL tek though.

Can you tell me what tek guide/sources of info you used to extract mesc using HCL?
 
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Just use the Ron69 tek but substitute the vinegar by dilluted Hcl. The best is a solution of around PH6. I used 1 part 10% hcl to 5 parts water. It doesn't come out clean white then, but after a cold aceton wash it is nice off-white. Be carefull not to evaporate near metal as the damps are corrosive. Just put it outside on a pyrex with a tea light under it. Watch out for the last millilitres. Just let those evaporate without heat.
Then scrape it off and put it in a small beaker with cold acetone (anhydrous is the best, but normal would do fine without much loss) and stir for a while. Then let it settle and carefully pour off the coloured acetone and make shure the settled mescaline stays in. Then let the settled mescaline dry (this goes really fast because aceton will evaporate ten times faster than water) Repeat if you want but the first wash makes it nice off white already. You'll notice that when you evaporate the acetone you'll be left with a tar like 'other alkaloids' mix which smells strong. The mescaline is near odourless.
You can convert your tar and get some nice mesc within a couple of hours.

About your limonene which you wrote is finished, You can use the same limonene for more pulls. You can easily do three/four pulls with the same 300ml wihout losing much as long as you salt it in between a couple of times.
 
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Evergreen,

I have had good success with both the Vinegar and HCL saltings. Drying with a fan gave me a nice clean result in both instances. Thats odd that your Acetate wasn't active, my first oven dried batch was active at 250mgs. 150mg is a low dose but it should have noticeable effects. For me 200mgs is mildly psychedelic, 450mg is my sweet spot.
For the HCL tek I diluted more than 69Ron indicated in his instructions. The "Goo Factor" thread has more info on this. I used 4 drops HCL per 100ml distilled H20. The results of this were quite clean, I washed once with 99% IPA.
This is a good tek. Personaly I like this tek better than Tea or Resin, for ease of ingestion and dosing. However, brewing Tea is very simple and effective, so if you are having problems with extraction, a simple brew can give a great experience. Don't give up on the Cactus!

Once
 
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check the suppliers section for vendors selling fumaric acid. myspicesage has it. isopropanol alcohol is widely available but must be dried to 99% before adding fumaric acid.
 
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Also, check the warm water bath extraction... Forgot who did it, but it goes like this...

chop cactus into similar sized pieces, put in large enough pot or crock pot
heat on low(do NOT boil!!!!!) for 30-60 min[for those more familiar, is this time correct?]
CAREFULLY strain cactus, being careful NOT to break up the flesh, saving water
put in chiller till frozen
Add water, repeat till flesh has lost bitterness

From what I remember, this method is supposed to reward you with fairly pure xtals(is a pretty full compound extract, not just mesc) without all the goo and waxes..

The most important parts to making this work were NOT boiling, and freezing between heat cycles for efficient extraction.

No acids necessary in water, but won't hurt either...

Good luck!
 
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Hi everyone, thanks for all those ideas! I was sidetracked and had to focus my attention on some other things for a while. But now I'm back to try a different tek (probably the HCL one) soon. I'll buy peruvian torch skin cuttings this time, found a good source in the UK (it's a lot cheaper then buying fresh cactus).

I took the remaining 350mg some time ago btw, and I felt XTC like effects, no hallucinations but it was vey nice anyway. I just got back from windsurfing when I took it, once it started to kick in I started to feel hungry like a mf, and I made a nice dinner that normally takes me about 40 mins in 20 minutes. I was very hungry and the mesc made me very sharp and speedy. Then I visited a friend and we just talked all evening. It was a good experience.
 
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