maskedmartyr
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edited due .. to findings...
dont worry, you will find everything in time :d
dont worry, you will find everything in time :d
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DONT FRUSTRATED BUYING MATERIALS BE SMART!!!
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dont worry, any acid is fine, like vinegar for example.
Also Naphtha is perfect.. just make an evaporation test of pure naphtha on a small dish to see if it leaves residue. Try to find a brand that doesnt leave residue
also what about caustic soda for the basifying part, did SWIY find it? Its sold in hardware stores to unblock drains. Where SWIM lives it even has in the supermarket, in the cleaning isle. Look for 100% caustic soda/Sodium Hydroxide/Lye, with no other listed ingredients. But be careful it can make nasty burns, leave you blind and all.
be careful, be conscient and good luck
Also Naphtha is perfect.. just make an evaporation test of pure naphtha on a small dish to see if it leaves residue. Try to find a brand that doesnt leave residue
also what about caustic soda for the basifying part, did SWIY find it? Its sold in hardware stores to unblock drains. Where SWIM lives it even has in the supermarket, in the cleaning isle. Look for 100% caustic soda/Sodium Hydroxide/Lye, with no other listed ingredients. But be careful it can make nasty burns, leave you blind and all.
be careful, be conscient and good luck
DarkShaman
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Muriatic acid, pure vm&p naptha, and 100% lye drain unclogger are as close to the regulated lab chemicals required for extractions that one can procure in the U.S. (that is, without having to submit personal information such as i.d., address, etc. - there is a great chem supply store in my city, although one must submit similar information for purchases of certain chemicals such as sulf. acid, etc.). Additionally, all 3 are available at Ace Hardware (ace is tha place, know'm sayin'?) at bargain prices.
mugwump77
Rising Star
yeah. pretty much what endless said.
vinegar will make a fine acid, and i found everything i needed at TrueValue hardware store.
100% lye "rooto drain opener"
and VM&P naptha with naptha written all huge on the front:
i even found HDPE containers, turkey basters, everything.
i love that store.
vinegar will make a fine acid, and i found everything i needed at TrueValue hardware store.
100% lye "rooto drain opener"
ROOTO CORPORATION - LB Rooto No. 4 Household Drain Opener 100% Lye #TV602415
Rooto Corporation 1030 #TV602415 - LB Rooto No. 4 Household Drain Opener 100% Lye
www.idealtruevalue.com
and VM&P naptha with naptha written all huge on the front:
SUNNYSIDE CORPORATION - Gallon Naphtha In Metal Can #TV568709
Sunnyside Corporation 800G1 #TV568709 - Gallon Naphtha In Metal Can
www.idealtruevalue.com
i even found HDPE containers, turkey basters, everything.
i love that store.
GirlsHateMe
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ive been everywhere today trying to find naptha...
walmart home depot and lowes NOBODY EVEN KNEW WHAT THE heck IT WAS OR WHAT IT WAS FOR!!!!
so that pissed me of...THEN
nobody had a digital ph meter NOBODY
nobody had caustic soda NOBODY
im so gorsh darn upset, nobody knew what any of this stuff was, what it was for, or where i could find it in their store...
Ive spent most of the day being sad
walmart home depot and lowes NOBODY EVEN KNEW WHAT THE heck IT WAS OR WHAT IT WAS FOR!!!!
so that pissed me of...THEN
nobody had a digital ph meter NOBODY
nobody had caustic soda NOBODY
im so gorsh darn upset, nobody knew what any of this stuff was, what it was for, or where i could find it in their store...
Ive spent most of the day being sad
naphtha is a solvent. You have to look in the solvent section. Its sold also in paint stores, as paint thinner and so on. Just look at the labels.
caustic soda is also called lye or Sodium Hydroxide, and its usually sold to unblock drain, so check near the bathroom chemicals area..
caustic soda is also called lye or Sodium Hydroxide, and its usually sold to unblock drain, so check near the bathroom chemicals area..
GirlsHateMe
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ok now that im not so mad I can communicate this a little better...
The state swim lives in is notorious for meth labs, they are everywhere, so finding any form of lye or caustic soda on a shelf is very very hard, walmart had some but it contained sodium nitrate and swim doesnt feel like doing extra cleaning of swims product due to this(if the nitrate even matters).
Someone found a vendor online, but probably just hit up ace. swim haddent before because there isnt one anywhere near his house.
swim thought so but swim diddnt even go look in the paint section because swim figured it would be by the coleman fuel or something. swims own fault there, still youd think someone would know where it was who works at the store.
edit: anybody looking for some acid, might try the health food stores for citric acid. Thats the one thing ive been able to find without problem. Also camera stores sell certain acids for home developing.
The state swim lives in is notorious for meth labs, they are everywhere, so finding any form of lye or caustic soda on a shelf is very very hard, walmart had some but it contained sodium nitrate and swim doesnt feel like doing extra cleaning of swims product due to this(if the nitrate even matters).
Someone found a vendor online, but probably just hit up ace. swim haddent before because there isnt one anywhere near his house.
swim thought so but swim diddnt even go look in the paint section because swim figured it would be by the coleman fuel or something. swims own fault there, still youd think someone would know where it was who works at the store.
edit: anybody looking for some acid, might try the health food stores for citric acid. Thats the one thing ive been able to find without problem. Also camera stores sell certain acids for home developing.
if caustic soda is a problem, then use some other base like sodium carbonate, sold as pH up for pool or acquarium.. but it cant be an STB, have to be an A/B
GirlsHateMe
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thanks man ill check that out for sure, pool stuff is plentiful in swims neck of the woods
eindreizig
Rising Star
maskedmartyr said:
If you live in a larger city, go to a sign supply store. My local sign supply store sells EVERY SOLVENT I NEED: Methenol, IPA, Toluene, Xylene, Naptha (3 brands?), Heptane, etc. Even DCM, but its tied up in that auto cleaner. Also, if you are having trouble finding lye, either go to a soap-making store or a biodiesel store if one is in your area. If not, then just try a local (non Ace, Lowes, etc) hardware store and check. I happened to go down the street and notice at my local store they sell 1lb of lye for $3.00. Good deal
Oh, there are also hydroponics stores for all your pH needs.
GirlsHateMe
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Heres an update on my stuff and a little help for people still looking...
I ended up just ordering some lab grade methylene chloride with a friends buisness id, sure it was expensive as all fucking hell, but you know what i got it and i might even have some left over for next time, however ron explained to me that if it just has methane in it that it can be removed fairly easily without distilling, which im all for taking that route next time.
As far as lye goes, they just dont sell it around here like that, and if you buy more than one container they want your name and address and number and stuff, trust me, meth around here is no joke and they raid houses all the time based on that alone, so ive just taken up the sodium carbonate tek which if you have the dcm/mc this is fine and the extra baseing of lye just isnt needed. Saving your skin and lungs and possibly eyes from some serious damage, you can either bake some baking soda at 392F(200c) for an hour(cover it) or you can go find some arm and hammer super washing soda. I looked at pet and aquarium stores and couldnt find any sodium carbonate ph up, but ive herd you CAN get it.
The Pool store/pet store diddnt have full range ph strips, but plenty of teacher stores do. The guys at the pool store said full range is more of a science thing and to take that into factor.
Something else to take into factor if you are going to use dcm/mc is that it will eat plastic, so im having a tough time finding a glass container big enough for the fluids, so that I can get the dcm off the bottom of the water.
Also if you use dcm, remember that youre going to have to grab some bestine(art stores) or naptha too to get the dmt out of all the crazy shit dcm pulls.
I hope this helped someone having some trouble.
I ended up just ordering some lab grade methylene chloride with a friends buisness id, sure it was expensive as all fucking hell, but you know what i got it and i might even have some left over for next time, however ron explained to me that if it just has methane in it that it can be removed fairly easily without distilling, which im all for taking that route next time.
As far as lye goes, they just dont sell it around here like that, and if you buy more than one container they want your name and address and number and stuff, trust me, meth around here is no joke and they raid houses all the time based on that alone, so ive just taken up the sodium carbonate tek which if you have the dcm/mc this is fine and the extra baseing of lye just isnt needed. Saving your skin and lungs and possibly eyes from some serious damage, you can either bake some baking soda at 392F(200c) for an hour(cover it) or you can go find some arm and hammer super washing soda. I looked at pet and aquarium stores and couldnt find any sodium carbonate ph up, but ive herd you CAN get it.
The Pool store/pet store diddnt have full range ph strips, but plenty of teacher stores do. The guys at the pool store said full range is more of a science thing and to take that into factor.
Something else to take into factor if you are going to use dcm/mc is that it will eat plastic, so im having a tough time finding a glass container big enough for the fluids, so that I can get the dcm off the bottom of the water.
Also if you use dcm, remember that youre going to have to grab some bestine(art stores) or naptha too to get the dmt out of all the crazy shit dcm pulls.
I hope this helped someone having some trouble.
DarkShaman
Rising Star
GirlsHateMe said:
Goddamn tweekers! :evil:
Always stealing shit and causing new legislations!
I think you need to do a bit more research on what you exactly need. Going into a store to buy some of these items, and not knowing where they would be, or what they are actually used for, creates a huge RED FLAG! Thinking lye was for stripping paint? LOL! Lucky they didn't call the cops thinking you were looking to make Meth. If they will only sell you one container at a time without ID, then only buy one at that store (you dont need much lye for extractions), and if you need more, go to another "Ace" and get 1 there.
"Also if you use dcm, remember that youre going to have to grab some bestine(art stores) or naptha too to get the dmt out of all the crazy shit dcm pulls."
All you need is Bestine! If you can get Bestine, that is your non polar solvent, you don't need DCM!
You seem to be making this much harder than it should be. Learn about each of the items needed, what they are normally used for, then you can do into a store and tell them exactly what you want, for a legitimate reason, and avoid all suspicion.
"Also if you use dcm, remember that youre going to have to grab some bestine(art stores) or naptha too to get the dmt out of all the crazy shit dcm pulls."
All you need is Bestine! If you can get Bestine, that is your non polar solvent, you don't need DCM!
You seem to be making this much harder than it should be. Learn about each of the items needed, what they are normally used for, then you can do into a store and tell them exactly what you want, for a legitimate reason, and avoid all suspicion.
You can find phosphoric acid 10% here:
morebeer.com
Should be food grade as it is used in beer making.
Phosphoric Acid (10%) - 4 oz | MoreBeer
10% concentration. Phosphoric acid is said to be tasteless while lactic in large quantities can potentially leave flavor. Free shipping over $59.
Should be food grade as it is used in beer making.
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It would be nice if we had a suppliers thread for chemicals as well as the ethno vendors.
DarkShaman
Rising Star
Well put, Saidin. I think that it becomes essential for a psycho-chemist to learn & study not only every element of the end result of an experiment, but every element of every step leading to the end result, in order to grasp the concept of, say, what uses certain chemicals may have in other applications.