doseage question

[soccls9]

So SWIM stumbled upon the nexus as he was in the process of his first extraction from mimosa root bark. The extraction process just ended and here is what was obtained from the first pull.

SWIM's question is how many milligrams do you think that is. SWIM doesn't have a sensitive enough scale to measure the crystals right now. SWIM also doesn't have much experience with what a normal dose looks like and would like to know if this would be enough for one person, like something around 30-40 mg. Thank youu.

 

[q21q21]

hart to tell since there is not a lot of comparable items... SWIM is guessing closer to 75-100+mg, definately more than SWIM would like to smoke at once.

Although SWIM's comment of this often gets looked over, low doses are smoked spice and fun and pleasent and a great introduction to the intense world of hyperspace.

Of course smoking technique can produce a huge loss of spice, SWIMS roomie smoked a changa joint with 60mg and he said it felt like 5mg out of *the machine.*

SWIM thinks you should start small, maybe the size of a HB pencil lead (4-10mg). Then work your way up to the size of the eraser (40+)

he also can't stress more the effectiveness of *the machine" look it up!

 

[dtabbler]

Always start small and figure out what dose you need. as with ANY drug of ANY sort. try starting with just enough to notice in whatever your smoking device and go up from there. i like dusting some dried mint leaves and smoking out of a bowl. this is something you should do anyways just to test for saftey of the product and allergic reactions to any substances.

P.S. small amounts can be just as enjoyable as large amounts depending on mood and setting, personally i REALLY liked the visuals from a small dose (20mg or maybe the amount that would fit on half to two-thirds of a pencil eraser)

 

[SnozzleBerry]

(20mg or maybe the amount that would fit on half to two-thirds of a pencil eraser)

Given the density changes from one batch to another that's not necessarily gonna be accurate, although its not a bad guide. Can you really not invest in a scale at all?

Also, you should put something to reference size in pictures like these. Offhand that looks to be in excess of 100mg, but without a reference point it's hard to say. Showing your spice next to a quarter or nickel would help, but as already mentioned, the density changes from batch to batch, so 50mg from one extraction may look nothing like 50mg from another.

Personally I feel that low doses can be enjoyable, but its weird when you're not really here or really there. I've seen more rough experiences with low doses than I've ever seen on high doses and I've introduced a ton of people to spice. For most people who have done research and are first timers I've done ~50mg and never had anyone who came back and said "that was bad, I never want to do that again". Even my one friend who completely lost it and was screaming, flailing around my entire bedroom (wrecked the room, it was a sight to see) and was clearly not accepting it eventually quieted down and was gone for 20 minutes, only to return and say it was one of the best/most amazing experiences of his life.

 

[dtabbler]

(20mg or maybe the amount that would fit on half to two-thirds of a pencil eraser)

Given the density changes from one batch to another that's not necessarily gonna be accurate, although its not a bad guide. Can you really not invest in a scale at all?

agreed with the scale thing.. there are millions of scales out there, go buy one. i use a powder scale that is accurate to 6mg +/-3mg and that seems to work nicely. they can be expensive or inexpensive, even a good balance scale that is made for small amounts would be great

 

[soccls9]

Here are the crystals next to a nickel:

I have been looking at scales on eBay and I will be buying one soon, I was just wondering how many milligrams this might be so SWIM could test it out.

 

[gammagore]

Best to invest in a scale mate, there is no way of telling how much you have there, density of the spice is hard to tell.

If you really want to smoke it without a scale, just load up a few xtals and take 2-3 pulls.

Happy trails dude.

 

[۩]

Why has no one mentioned how contaminated this persons spice looks? I wouldn't touch that stuff with a 10' pole...
Wash your solvent with sodium carbonate next time (step 7 vovins tek, see wiki)
It definitely looks like you need to recrystallize...

 

[endlessness]

what do you mean with contaminated?

I cant see much about weight either... Get a scale for sure, but if you wanna try before it arrives, just smoke a couple of crumbles sandwhiched between herbs in a bong, in a quiet place, and see what happens

 

[gammagore]

Hehehe, looks like a dirty pyrex dish was used in the first pic, I hope that all the brown stuff is on the outside of that dish.

But you should really clean your equipment before use.

 

[soccls9]

SWIM and his friend smoked a small amount out of a light bulb vaporizer. It was very pleasant and no visuals except a sensitivity to light. SWIM looks forward to getting a scale and smoking a larger amount. Also all that brown-ness on the pyrex dish was on the outside, if it wasn't that would have been prettty gross.

 

[q21q21]

congrats, but the bulb vaporizer in SWIM's experience is 1/2 to 1/10 the efficiency of *the machine*

as counter intuitive as it would seem the reason is DMT can be quite easily denatured by overheating, when it is melted into a copper mesh and the vapor is inhaled immediately while it vaporizes you prevent this loss.

athough this is a rough version and not SWIM's preferred device, it will do the job and you can customize it, instead of using a bulb you can use a very small liquor bottle, but it gives you a visual

"the (mini) machine" step by step guide (31¢ cost) - Vaping/Smoking - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus