easy diy ejuice for vapers.

[steppa]

Cool 1ce,

thank you. It's a pitty that this won't help me though.

In the European Union, the European Parliament voted in 2009 to ban the use of DCM in paint-strippers for consumers and many professionals. The ban took effect in December 2010.

Basically it's forbidden to sell paint thinner and stuff like that which has more then 0.1% DCM by weight. :|

 

[sbc1]

Cheers 1ce I love learning new things like this, I need to ask you some questions in regards to extracting, the big 3 for me are dmt, mushrooms and cannabis, dmt I've cracked you can vape it, put it in eliquid ect, buy with mushrooms and cannabis it's a different story more mushrooms than cannabis, I'd love to extract psilocin/psilocin, thca/thc any info on if it's possible, your cannabis ejuice is good I'd just like it a bit cleaner like your first bottle, need a good way to remove chlorophyll, and I know psilocin/psilocybin arnt that stable in an oxygen environment but would putting the dried mushrooms in a glass jar filled with vegetable glycerin work like it does with honey, you might be able to vape it then if the compounds leach onto the vg. Cheers mate

 

[sbc1]

Cool 1ce,

thank you. It's a pitty that this won't help me though.

In the European Union, the European Parliament voted in 2009 to ban the use of DCM in paint-strippers for consumers and many professionals. The ban took effect in December 2010.

Basically it's forbidden to sell paint thinner and stuff like that which has more then 0.1% DCM by weight. :|

Where are you steppa

 

[steppa]

sbc1,

we seem to share very similar interests and also techniques.

1/4 ratio of dmt to eliquid, 50/50 or 70/30 vg/pg no nic eliquid, I use to use 1g to 1ml but that was before sub ohm,

I did exactly the same.

And I am intersted in vapable psil extract too. I don't think it will work the way you proposed, though. That's because my guess is, that even if the vaping with an e-cig would work, that it is'nt concentrated enough when you do a one step glycerin extraction.

But I have a mushroom extract at hand and can test if it dissolves in vg/pg.

@cleaner canabis e-juice

How about doing an initial extraction with (cold) alcool? This would lead to a cleaner product for sure.

BUT from what I've read, the solution you get when you mix concentrate and vg/pg isn't really stable and stuff tends to clump out after a while. I've read that using PEG makes it more stable.

I have personally seen concentrate clumping out of pure VG after a while.

Any words on stabilty, 1ce?

Where are you steppa

GER

 

[sbc1]

Yeah we certainly do steppa

Yeah I know what you mean it's probably best trying to extract first then mix with pg/vg.

Can I ask how did you get mushroom extract and could you give me the details on how if that's ok.

For the past 3 days I've been looking and reading all sorts on cannabis extract, cleaning up the extract, getting pure thca/pure thc and it seems the best way is to a similar extraction to how you would extract dmt.

You don't need to use peg you can use straight vg/pg or a mix, by using a homogenizer you won't get separation, I think 1ce was on to something using the ultrasonic cleaner/ centafruge that might help mix the eliquid and keep it stable

Game changer Emulsifying Vegetable Glycerin and BHO for E-Juice | Skunk Pharm Research

Game changer Emulsifying Vegetable Glycerin and BHO for E-Juice

skunkpharmresearch.com

 

[steppa]

Can I ask how did you get mushroom extract and could you give me the details on how if that's ok.

Of course. Thats why we are here.

I wrote about it in the mushroom extraction thread

Just follow the thread from there.

For the past 3 days I've been looking and reading all sorts on cannabis extract, cleaning up the extract, getting pure thca/pure thc and it seems the best way is to a similar extraction to how you would extract dmt.

I already have both of the books you attatched. It's cool to have a really pure extract, but personally I think that this might be overkill, when it's just about getting a nice vapeable ejuice. But that's a thing of personal preference of course.

You don't need to use peg you can use straight vg/pg or a mix, by using a homogenizer you won't get separation, I think 1ce was on to something using the ultrasonic cleaner/ centafruge that might help mix the eliquid and keep it stable

Game changer Emulsifying Vegetable Glycerin and BHO for E-Juice | Skunk Pharm Research

Ahh...I see. Very cool. Thanks.

 

[sbc1]

Cheers steppa I'll have a look.

Yeah that's true I suppose it's just finding the cleanest product that will mix with vg/pg and be a comfortable vape, what's your method of getting a clean cannabis extract, I don't really wanna go down the bho route, I'd prefer a similar extraction to dmt even though cannabinoids are not alkaloids,

Anytime mate, there's some good stuff on that site and comments after the posts

 

[steppa]

what's your method of getting a clean cannabis extract, I don't really wanna go down the bho route

I go down the BHO route. Here's my writeup It's a pitty that the pics are gone. I still have them on the hard drive if you want them.

If I wasn't to go down that route I'd use freezing cold bud and freezing cold ethanol.

I'd prefer a similar extraction to dmt even though cannabinoids are not alkaloids,

I never heard that an A/B would be possible with THC. But I don't know much.

Anytime mate, there's some good stuff on that site and comments after the posts

Yeah. I love skunkpharm. They tought me sooo much!

 

[sbc1]

Yeah I wouldn't mind seeing them mate.

In them pdfs I sent they do a sort of a/b to clean the product, salt water, alcohol and pet ether, the main problem is chlorophyll which if I'm right is insoluble in pet ether, so if I follow 1ce info using the ultrasonic cleaner and centafruge but do a wash aswell I should have a cleaner better product to vaporise.

Yeah it's a good site with a lot of info

Sorry it's getting pure thca where they do an a/b, it's more of a cleanup that I was saying

 

[1ce]

Cool 1ce,

thank you. It's a pitty that this won't help me though.

In the European Union, the European Parliament voted in 2009 to ban the use of DCM in paint-strippers for consumers and many professionals. The ban took effect in December 2010.

Basically it's forbidden to sell paint thinner and stuff like that which has more then 0.1% DCM by weight. :|

You could synthesize chloroform from acetone and bleach. I just dump the acetome in the bleach bottle amd chuck it in the freezer overnight. Decant, wash, and distill.

 

[sbc1]

I wish I was as knowledgeable as you 1ce ha

 

[1ce]

Cheers 1ce I love learning new things like this, I need to ask you some questions in regards to extracting, the big 3 for me are dmt, mushrooms and cannabis, dmt I've cracked you can vape it, put it in eliquid ect, buy with mushrooms and cannabis it's a different story more mushrooms than cannabis, I'd love to extract psilocin/psilocin, thca/thc any info on if it's possible, your cannabis ejuice is good I'd just like it a bit cleaner like your first bottle, need a good way to remove chlorophyll, and I know psilocin/psilocybin arnt that stable in an oxygen environment but would putting the dried mushrooms in a glass jar filled with vegetable glycerin work like it does with honey, you might be able to vape it then if the compounds leach onto the vg. Cheers mate

I've had the best luck extracting mushrooms with MeOH and tartaric acid, evaporation yielded an offwhite wax like benzymes. I don't think psilocin can be vaped sadly.

I've made a breakthrough with chlorophyl removal using 22 micron syringe filters, dissolving into pg, leaving it to cool slowly in fridge, then freezer, and winterizing it in a centrifuge to removr a lot of the waxes.

Taking it a step further, once it's been 'fuged amd I've added an equal volume of vg to the pg (1:1) I stir it on a heated mag plate. This new vape ready solution is suspended in a sonication bath with interrupted 30 minute intervals. 30 minutes on, 15, off. I found this to rapidly homogonize the ejuice.

 

[1ce]

sbc1,

we seem to share very similar interests and also techniques.

1/4 ratio of dmt to eliquid, 50/50 or 70/30 vg/pg no nic eliquid, I use to use 1g to 1ml but that was before sub ohm,

I did exactly the same.

And I am intersted in vapable psil extract too. I don't think it will work the way you proposed, though. That's because my guess is, that even if the vaping with an e-cig would work, that it is'nt concentrated enough when you do a one step glycerin extraction.

But I have a mushroom extract at hand and can test if it dissolves in vg/pg.

@cleaner canabis e-juice

How about doing an initial extraction with (cold) alcool? This would lead to a cleaner product for sure.

BUT from what I've read, the solution you get when you mix concentrate and vg/pg isn't really stable and stuff tends to clump out after a while. I've read that using PEG makes it more stable.

I have personally seen concentrate clumping out of pure VG after a while.

Any words on stabilty, 1ce?

Where are you steppa

GER

I havent had any stability issues, everything seems fully homogenized even today. Chlorophyl seems to be extracted with aq. polar solvents. From the lit I read water tends to dissolve protiens attatched to chlorophyll. I'm not sure about anhydrous polar solvents but I could try with methanol.

Chlorinated solvents/heptane seem to be the best, obviously the drier the better.Freezing the extract/filtering it certainly cleans the hell out of them.

sofar I've made these by doing a crude extract, removing the solvent, and dissolving directly into pg and cleaning it from there.

My ejuice is 50/50 pg/vg.

 

[steppa]

You could synthesize chloroform from acetone and bleach. I just dump the acetome in the bleach bottle amd chuck it in the freezer overnight. Decant, wash, and distill.

Thanks man. I already thought about this in connection with cleaning up my mushroom extract. But I read that a reaction can take place which creates pretty hazardous material...forgot which one at the moment. Any words on this?

 

[steppa]

Freezing the extract/filtering it certainly cleans the hell out of them.

Ah yes. Forgot to tell this to sbc1.

On skunkpharm they call it winterizing. It really cleans up the extract a lot. But also will dimish the taste a lot, I found.

 

[1ce]

I wish I was as knowledgeable as you 1ce ha

it's just acetone and bleach. The downside is the reaction is exothermic, and the chloroform, boils off. Therefore putting it in the freezer will keep it cool for a budget. Chloroform precipitates to a 'blob' that can be decanted off.

The biggest downside is you need to distill the chloroform.

 

[1ce]

You could synthesize chloroform from acetone and bleach. I just dump the acetome in the bleach bottle amd chuck it in the freezer overnight. Decant, wash, and distill.

Thanks man. I already thought about this in connection with cleaning up my mushroom extract. But I read that a reaction can take place which creates pretty hazardous material...forgot which one at the moment. Any words on this?

I think you're referring to phosgene. This happens when chloroform is esposed to high temperatures, uv light, and time. if you plan on storing it for long periods of time add a few ml ethanol as a stablizer.


edit:

if you're using it for an extraction in the next week or two, it's hard to harm yourself with it. It definitely won't set your house on fire, and as long as you purify it it's very 'food safe'.

 

[1ce]

Freezing the extract/filtering it certainly cleans the hell out of them.

Ah yes. Forgot to tell this to sbc1.

On skunkpharm they call it winterizing. It really cleans up the extract a lot. But also will dimish the taste a lot, I found.

simply usimg syringe filters amd fuging it has gotten it rather clean. transperant light green. 1g cannabis doesn't 'taint' the eztract too bad, but extracting from 2g dense material left me with a lot of chlorophyll. it hasn't fouled up the cotton enough to affect vaping/flavor but I cleaned it up anyway using22 micron syringe filter.

I add 2% flavoring, I'vr used both blueberry, and mango.. Once everything is mixed and finalized I put the ejuice in a sealed glass bottle and run it in the sonicator. this homogonizes the mixture and blends the flavors.

 

[sbc1]

Cheers 1ce/steppa I'm learning a lot more being in your company on this thread :thumb_up: dmt ejuice is already accomplished, cannabis ejuice is already accomplished, if we can find a way to extract psilocin/psilocybin and be able to vape using ejuice or a vaporizer I'll be an happy man

 

[1ce]

I don't think 4ho can be vaped. but I had an idea.. Perhaps we can refil inhalers. nicontrol inhalers are pretty cheap, also vicks inhalers.

unlike dmt 4ho has a unique intermolecular bond that can render it stericallt immune to mao, no immediate need for an inhibitor. I know some of these inhalers use pg as a solvent, which we happem to have on hand.

I'm not interested in finding new ways to administer 4ho atm, but this offers molecule protection from light/O2, and a means of dosing so it may have some viability.

cheers.