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'Ectoplasm' experience

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Purges

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PRE-CONDITIONS
(mind)Set: Calm, prepared, been anticipating an experience like this for a while now.
(physical condition) Set: Fine, no complaints 😉
Setting (location): My new home, with my GF
time of day: 7pm (much earlier than usual)
recent drug use: MDMA 1 week prior, daily weed smoking - except on 'ceremony day', the odd beer, nothing excessive...
last meal: Crumpet with butter and peach jam

PARTICIPANT
Gender: M
body weight: 70kg
known sensitivities:
history of use: reasonably experienced with smoked forms of DMT

BIOASSAY

Substance(s)/ Dose(s): White caapi extract, 25mg sublingual taken 15/20 mintes prior to launch. 25mg DMT + what ever my GF didn't finish + 10mg caapi extract on top.
Method of administration: Vaporized, GVG


EFFECTS

Administration time (approx): White caapi extract - 7pm. GF dose (25mg DMT, no extra caapi added) - 7.10pm. My dose - 7.20pm
Duration: 1 hour
First effects: 7.20pm
Peak: T= 0.20 - 0.30
Come down: T=0.40
Baseline:

Intensity (overall): 4
Evaluation / notes:

Recently I have been very lucky in various aspects of my life, and I wanted to cleanse myself and give thanks for the opportunities granted to me.

OPTIONAL
Pleasantness: 3
Implesantness: 2
Visual Intensity: 3
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AFTER-EFFECTS

Hangover: T=40 - T=1.00 (difficulty standing / walking etc, still tripping somewhat)
Afterglow: 3, felt exilharated, cleansed, and a little shaken


REPORT



It has been a while since I smoked any DMT, there have been a fair few changes in my life, such as moving house and acquiring two new family members (kittens) so I set it aside for a while until I felt the time was right again, I have had so much to organise and enjoy on this side, that the other has taken a back seat, but this is no bad thing, it has also given plenty of time to reflect and prepare for my next set of journeys - it is summer time after all 8)

My partner also decided she would partake for her 3rd time, so I sat for her while she had her experience. Beforehand, we spent a good deal of time getting the bedroom just right - making a comfortable seating area with beanbags and cushions on the floor, placing some lucky possessions on our makeshift altar with a lighting candle, shuttting the curtains, and cleansing our bodies before what was set to be a monumental journey.

Now, I guess this is a good point to say that words are entirely insufficient to portray experiences of this kind, as I'm sure most of you will know well by now, but in the spirit of Terence, I agree that it is fun to try. What I present to you is but a vague set of impressions which may well be entirely wrong.

I decided that on this occasion we would try a new approach - sublingual harmalas followed by the DMT, and in my case DMT + extra smoked harmalas. This turned out to amplify the experience greatly, and encouraged some profound cleansing on my part.

Enough preamble. My partner smoked her dose in one lungfull as instructed, getting most of it, and holding it as long as she could - like a pro, I sat there smiling, watching her, she had done it just right, and I could tell was being rewarded on the other side, almost brought a tear to my eye :'). She was too far gone to take any further tokes, and I could see her slipping into her trance. She maintained her composure however, and I could see her turning her head and interacting with the space she was presented with, smiling serenely the whole time. This excited me for my journey, but I couldn't help but be nervous as hell. DMT isn't something I take lightly, and after a few bumpy rides it becomes a particularly nerve wracking experience, but this is the path I have chosen, and it has rewarded me far more than it has punished me, so pushing on is the only real option.

As her trip subsided, Mrs Purges opened her eyes and smiled at me, it had been beyond words but she felt fantastic and had gained alot from the experience, we talked for a bit and I told her that I would rather not have a sitter for my journey, I am used to smoking alone and it feels a bit weird having somebody watch me while I undergo these experiences.

Now was my turn, Mrs Purges gathered herself and went downstairs to grab a drink and play with the cats, while I steadied myself and raised the pipe to my mouth. BADUM BADUM BADUM BADUM, my heart beat faster and faster, I took a few deep breaths, calmed myself further and flicked the switch on my lighter, thick, dense clouds of vapor surged through the Genie. I inhaled the whole dose in under ten seconds and by the time I put the pipe down by my side it was already coming on STRONG :shock: waves of color rolled over me, engulfed me and dissolved my being, profound insights and thoughts cascaded through me until I was just a node in a profound circuit board of light. Whatever was left of me was tumbling, falling, flying through the space.

The colors I remember were reds and greens. Then coughing. I coughed / threw up a lot of clear, gelatinous, sticky ectoplasm? It stuck to my fingers, made strings when I spread my fingers, and slid about, it was very strange to play with. I became quite fixated with it. This has happened to me once before with Changa, on one of my first experiences, with an unweighed and high dose - except last time the goo was more of an orangey color. While this was happening, what was surging through me was "This is physical proof of the other side, do not forget this" for a moment, I was covered in goo, and I started to come down.

My fingers were still sticky. I coughed up another load of strange clear goo. As I came down further, the usual incomplete questions started trickling out of my mouth "What the?!... How?!... Nah... He He He... But.." the bedroom door opened a crack and a familiar face poked her head around the corner.

"Are you alright Purgey?" she said. I must have been making a bit of noise, and she came up to check on me.

"Um, holy f£$% that was a BIG one sweety... Yeah, I'm alright, I needed that, it's been a while coming. Don't come any closer though, i'm covered in... stuff... Here, look, there's this goo that came... out... of... me..." she grimaced, but didn't seem too surprised that I had spewed something on myself :lol: I lay there with my eyes still flickering and rolling a little, enjoying the afterglow, and slowly reassembling my mind. I felt absolutely cleansed and bright as a button, but was still tripping significantly, which I didn't notice until trying to stand up and finding that my mental faculties were far from back to normal.

Mrs Purges turned on the shower and I staggered in, giggling to myself and thanking her for her kindness.

What the hell happened to me?! Whatever it was, I still feel on top of the world two days later.
 
Hey Purges, I've been wondering what's been happening with you. Good to see you back, and yeah, I get that ectoplasm too.
 
Hey purgemaster, you seem to have gotten around sublingual caapi extract(my favorite), how do you like it when compared to Changa, and how does the 10mg sprinkled vaporized extract add to it? Or is this the only time you have tried this?

The goo/phlegm comes to the top of my throat most often after vaporizing, but only after I come back, to get rid of it I just spit it out. I have speculated that this is the lungs cleaning themselves from the DMT vapor. Just like after smoking a cigarette(for non smoker) the next morning one can get brown stuff to spit out.
 
SM - You flatter me as always! ;) Much love right back at ya :love:

Global - I have been lurking, but not contributing as much, this summer should present plenty of opportunities for a nice series of experiences, hopefully more outdoors as well :D and, most interesting! Any thoughts on what it may be? There was quite a lot of it, and it seemed to be more than just phlegm :want:

Mr. Tele - this is the only time I have experimented with sublingual + DMT. I just intuitively added a little extra to smoke. It doesn't have the nice flowery / minty taste of my changa, but it does mean that I can play about with the harmala : spice ratio and still get similar effects. There is for me a slight difference, I find the ingredients in Changa do impart a certain 'character' to the trips that I haven't noticed with this method so far, but also this way I am ingesting much more harmalas than would be present in one dose of Changa, which will almost certainly have an effect on things.

As for the goo / phlegm, I am sure that some of it was just phlegm / lungs clearing themselves out, but like I said there was a lot more than when I usually clear my lungs out. It also ended up playing a fairly large role in the overall experience :?
 
At least the phlegm I get seems to be coming more from the stomach than from the lungs. I say this with more confidence because when I take plain ayahuasca without smoking DMT, I can sometimes get the most of this stuff. This leads me to believe that (at least for the phlegm I experience), it has little to do with the lungs cleaning themselves.
 
I have had an explosion of some kind of sticky white substance a few times, seems to happen in some journeys, at times when I have been shocked by the situation, for instance once when I was cut in half vertically in an open-eyed journey – my brain basically went into confusion mode and I ejected a large amount of this stuff.
 
This is weird because I recently had an experience with ectoplasm as well.
two weeks ago, the day after I took my ayahuasca trip...this clear very sticky stuff formed in my fridge...I know what your probably thinking....it's just spomething from my fridge leaking or what ever...well the thing is the only thing I had in my fridge was a container of ayahuasca, a jar of relish, a bottle of water and some cans of soda. No possible source of this sticky stuff. my freezer was also empty...this stuff was perfectly clear and very sticky like corn syrup....it had no smell...I obviously was not about to taste it...

I have never had this type of thing happen. I am currently living in a possibly haunted place with bad vibes in it.

So it formed right around where my aya jar was sitting.....

It was very tricky to clean off too, I think there is still some in there. I should get a sample for Dr. Egon.
 
this happens so often with mushrooms for me..I call it getting "slimed"..I am sure most familiar with mushrooms will understand what I mean..It happens with ayahuasca and DMT as well..no other substances have made this effect apparent for me..

I think it is the Jivaro shamans who have some interesting things to say about it..might be another tribe I cant remember..
 
yea supposedly the shuar (who are a part of the jivaro) spread this substance out on the ground and then use it to divine, and those around who are on aya can see into it as well. I think it was also the shuar that basically drink ayahuasca constantly
 
Thank you for the answers everyone! I was sure I wouldn't be the only one to have experienced something similar.

So my thoughts are that it could be some kind of bile. toxins or unneeded energies of some sort being expelled when a huge rush of psychic energy is activated, or something along hose lines maybe? It felt entirely natural when it happened and I didn't feel scared or worried at any point.

The business about the shuar smearing it sounds interesting. I will look into that, I ended up spreading most of it on my sheets :lol: .
 
Parshvik Chintan said:
d*l*b said:
I have had an explosion of some kind of sticky white substance a few times
:d

Your avatar ties this together beautifully :lol:

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(I imagine I looked similar afterwards 😉 )
 
And... Back on topic... 😉

Jamie & UC - is this the article you were talking about by any chance? The sound of rushing water.

"To give the novice some tsentsak, the practicing shaman regurgitates what appears to be - to those who have taken natema - a brilliant substance in which the spirit helpers are contained. He cuts off part of it off with a machete and gives it to the novice to swallow. The recipient experiences pain upon taking it into his stomach and stays on his bed for ten days, repeatedly drinking natema. The Jivaro believe they can keep magical darts in their stomachs indefinitely and regurgitate them at will. The shaman donating the tsentsak, periodically blows and rubs all over the body of the novice, apparently to increase the power of the transfer."

Now I can't claim to a) be a Shaman or b) have seen any 'spirit helpers' in there, but maybe I wouldn't know what one looked like any way lol. It all happened so fast... I will certainly be experimenting with this combo again and see what happens. Moar Aya is also on the cards for this summer, so maybe my extended journeys will provide greater insight into this weirdness.
 
^Steve Beyer talks about something like what you describes, Purges (fitting name!), in a similar fashion in "Singing to the Plants". The "phlegm" (he called it "mariri", I'm not sure which language that is) is said to hold the wizard's "power" or "darts". Weird, indeed!
 
You guys are AWESOME!! hehe

Nice stuff. Would be cool if it has meaning for the goo ejection.
Like a defense system. Or maybe (long shot) bio information goo.
Or could be an offering back to you. Like you said they told you it was physical proof of the other side.

All and all you guys (n gals) are champs in the hyperspace realm and we all look up to you psychonauts! :D


ps: bio information goo sounds the best! pass on the experience through goo transfer analysis! 8)
 
Maybe next time I'll save a sample and send it to endlessness, or one of the other more 'science oriented' chaps that frequent this place... Any takers? :lol:
 
Purges said:
Maybe next time I'll save a sample and send it to endlessness, or one of the other more 'science oriented' chaps that frequent this place... Any takers? :lol:

Depends.. Do you think it would taste good on a sandwich?

On second thought, maybe it's much better to analyze it before someone eats it.
 
I can see it now: read all about it!! hyperspace inquirer says everything you need to know about the universe is in just one drop of hyper goo! next story: entity child born with 3 heads!!
:D
 
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