Enhanced tobacco leaf

[semanticblockage]

Hi all,

I am curious to know if anyone has tried making DMT enhanced tobacco leaf? I have been rolling my own cigars using a variety of full leaf tobacco for a little over a year at this point and I am finally at the point I am very happy and proud of the cigars I am rolling. I am wondering how using DMT enhanced tobacco leaves in my cigars would work and how it would affect the cigar smoking experience. Has anyone tried this and is it worth doing? I plan on investigating this further and I am looking for feedback from anyone who has experience working with DMT enhanced leaf in the past or present. I have access to and have a stockpile of NN-DMT crystals that I will be using for these experiences. Any feedback or suggestions are welcome.

I am looking forward to sharing the love with you all and with those around me.

I love all of you!

Best,
- semanticblockage

* Perhaps this post belongs in the "Methods of Administration" forum. Please feel free to move this thread if it is appropriate, I'm not sure what the rules are here in terms of cross posting threads to different topics.

 

[new_science]

I rolled my own cigarettes for many years and would occasionally put some DMT in them. My preference was always Norwegian shag tobacco; I'd just drop in some grains of freebase when smoking my last 'grit of the day. A fantastic transition into sleep. I'm not sure how well it would go with cigars... that's a stronger smoke, and if you managed to ingest even a smidge too much DMT, that cigar's gonna get forgotten about. Also, it sounds contrary seeing as how cigar smoke isn't inhaled and DMT smoke/vapor need to be held for an extended amount of time. However, I would put more value on your own personal experience--that you might try it and report back

 

[semanticblockage]

thanks for the reply! good point regarding how cigar smoke isn't inhaled as thoroughly compared to cigarettes. i do believe that some cigar smoke gets inhaled, or maybe thats just me and how i smoke them... i could also use the tobacco i have to roll cigarettes, maybe i will try both i haven't tried norwegian tobacco but i'll keep my eyes open for it. i have some vietnamese dark air-cured tobacco which has a unique flavor that i love. i also have some other connecticut shade grown tobacco that is on the sweeter side but also delicious along with some dark air-cured tobacco grown in the US that isn't bad... i'm always on the lookout for something new and continuously looking for ways to improve my craft! i was thinking it would be fun to add a little extra special kick to the cigars that i've been rolling by adding some DMT...

i've read about making enhanced leaf by creating a liquid solution with the DMT crystals and soaking the leaves in the solution and then letting them dry. i am wondering if that is necessary and how it compares to just adding the crystals directly. i have tried adding crystals directly to my cigars once or twice in the past and the effects were minimal... maybe i'll try cigarettes instead or try creating enhanced leaf or a combination of both...

if i find anything interesting while experimenting i will be sure to report back!

best,
- semanticblockage

 

[Cass71]

I just put some ISO in the last 3 Pyrex (scraped) heated the Pyrex with a hairdryer and added the warmed ISO. Evaporates fast [as anything] by the way , mixed in with some Amber Leaf and let it dry on a plate. Smoked a 1 skinner and just got a weird buzz (slight ringing in ears sort), nothing else .

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[SkunK]

Hi all,

I am curious to know if anyone has tried making DMT enhanced tobacco leaf? I have been rolling my own cigars using a variety of full leaf tobacco for a little over a year at this point and I am finally at the point I am very happy and proud of the cigars I am rolling. I am wondering how using DMT enhanced tobacco leaves in my cigars would work and how it would affect the cigar smoking experience. Has anyone tried this and is it worth doing? I plan on investigating this further and I am looking for feedback from anyone who has experience working with DMT enhanced leaf in the past or present. I have access to and have a stockpile of NN-DMT crystals that I will be using for these experiences. Any feedback or suggestions are welcome.

I am looking forward to sharing the love with you all and with those around me.

I love all of you!

Best,
- semanticblockage

* Perhaps this post belongs in the "Methods of Administration" forum. Please feel free to move this thread if it is appropriate, I'm not sure what the rules are here in terms of cross posting threads to different topics.

Are you growing your own Tobacco or buying pre cured and ready leafs?

A couple years ago, I was pretty big into growing differnt varities of tobaccos, its interesting how the different Varities are utilized into a Cigar. and its quite the art cutting the tobacco into sheets.

I was learning, mainly using the leaf to make blunt papers when I had large Cannabis grows. I was never actually able to quality cure the leaf! I mainly tried to sun cure them, but I think fire cured would have produced better results , I just didn't have the set up and lacked the motivation to try and construct such facility in my yard...

I would think Infusing Tobacco leaf for a cigar where one doesn't inhale every puff would be wastefull. kind of hit and miss which inhale would contain a hit. Might be hard to hold its in the lungs deeply for a good amouth of time as cigar tobacco is usualy alot harsher/stronger and thicker than a regular smoke, and thats just my opinion from a 20 year smoker who has no problem smoking and inhaling all forums of tobacco.

Maybe dialing in a blend of Pipe tobacco, and some Changa herbs/weed could make the Infused leaf a smoother option and possibly that would be a good use for the infused rolling leaf... I think puffing on a spliff with some Cappi and an Infused DMT blunt wrap around a fire at night would sound absolutly delightful!



Are

 

[SkunK]

I just put some ISO in the last 3 Pyrex (scraped) heated the Pyrex with a hairdryer and added the warmed ISO. Evaporates fast [as anything] by the way , mixed in with some Amber Leaf and let it dry on a plate. Smoked a 1 skinner and just got a weird buzz (slight ringing in ears sort), nothing else .

I knew I was saving my unscrapped Pyrex Infused dishes in the freeezer for a reason. I can get a little lazy and usualy never scrape the corners, and let fresh solvant disolve the corners into new batches only to continue the process next run. maybe once I have some tobacco leaf, I'll try infusing a few blunt wraps with my left overs

 

[brokedownpalace10]

Are you growing your own Tobacco or buying pre cured and ready leafs?

A couple years ago, I was pretty big into growing differnt varities of tobaccos, its interesting how the different Varities are utilized into a Cigar. and its quite the art cutting the tobacco into sheets.

I was learning, mainly using the leaf to make blunt papers when I had large Cannabis grows. I was never actually able to quality cure the leaf! I mainly tried to sun cure them, but I think fire cured would have produced better results , I just didn't have the set up and lacked the motivation to try and construct such facility in my yard...

I would think Infusing Tobacco leaf for a cigar where one doesn't inhale every puff would be wastefull. kind of hit and miss which inhale would contain a hit. Might be hard to hold its in the lungs deeply for a good amouth of time as cigar tobacco is usualy alot harsher/stronger and thicker than a regular smoke, and thats just my opinion from a 20 year smoker who has no problem smoking and inhaling all forums of tobacco.

Maybe dialing in a blend of Pipe tobacco, and some Changa herbs/weed could make the Infused leaf a smoother option and possibly that would be a good use for the infused rolling leaf... I think puffing on a spliff with some Cappi and an Infused DMT blunt wrap around a fire at night would sound absolutly delightful!



Are

I grew my own for a long time. The fresh, raw leaf if harsh and tastes bad as you prolly know. You can construct a curing chamber and cure in a couple months but all I ever did was age my leaf in the basement. For your garden variety Burley, it takes a couple years and three is better. Some varieties like Yellow Twist Bud age up in 6 mo or a year.

 

[davidharper]

One thing that stands out is the mismatch between how cigars are typically smoked and how DMT is generally reported to be active. Since cigar smoke usually isn't deeply inhaled, it doesn't seem surprising that sprinkling crystals directly into a cigar resulted in minimal effects. From a harm-reduction perspective, combining a potent psychedelic with nicotine can also make it harder to judge what's causing any unexpected physical or psychological effects, so caution is warranted.

Your interest in improving your tobacco craft is probably the most interesting part of the thread. Experimenting with different leaf varieties, curing methods, and rolling techniques seems far more predictable than altering them with another substance. [[ edited by mod ]]

Would be interested to hear how your Connecticut shade and Vietnamese dark air-cured blends compare after a little more aging, since those kinds of tobacco experiments can produce noticeable differences without introducing additional risks.