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ETH-LAD
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Rising Star
My oh my, do I ever feel honored to be writing the first report on this gem... I am excited to tell you all about this overlooked compound, this rare diamond. 
This is an exceptionally sensual and erotic lysergamide, quite unlike it's sisters in mental, visual, emotional, and physical context.
The most striking aspect is the MDMA-like body sensations, with any speediness of MDMA left aside... only the best of the best...
The mental side is very folded in, really non-existant almost. Whatever is on mind is what's on mind, and it would be possible to maintain conversations about just about anything, I think.
The visuals are very subtle and beautiful, far more LSD like than AL-LAD, which is at the opposite end of the spectrum from ETH-LAD.
The duration is quite a bit longer than the other novel lysergamides I've tried too. At 7 hours I was still very far from baseline, with visual patterning everywhere, music touching my soul in the most mesmerizing ways. Pure beauty.
I distance tripped this with Psykinetic (mods, can new members see the RC section?), my twin flame, soul mirror, love beyond love, and my experience of this compound (and all the other lysergamides, really) is so intricately tied to my experience of him that I'm incredible curious how this substance would be to experience not swept away in the current of overwhelming, perfect, energetic synergy with another person.
I can say that while it was an incredibly beautiful time, and until he and I are no longer 1000 miles apart, it was the best way I can imagine spending an evening, but oh god, the rest will be saved for in person... yeah.
Wow!
............
We are Part of
Something
Ancient...
Priest and
Priestess
Completing the
Circle
Mirror Souls in
Congress
We are Magick
We are
Pharmakon
Reflection of All
The God within
Shines Threw
The Path is Clear
And there is Great
Work
To be done.
-Psykinetic
This is an exceptionally sensual and erotic lysergamide, quite unlike it's sisters in mental, visual, emotional, and physical context.
The most striking aspect is the MDMA-like body sensations, with any speediness of MDMA left aside... only the best of the best...
The mental side is very folded in, really non-existant almost. Whatever is on mind is what's on mind, and it would be possible to maintain conversations about just about anything, I think.
The visuals are very subtle and beautiful, far more LSD like than AL-LAD, which is at the opposite end of the spectrum from ETH-LAD.
The duration is quite a bit longer than the other novel lysergamides I've tried too. At 7 hours I was still very far from baseline, with visual patterning everywhere, music touching my soul in the most mesmerizing ways. Pure beauty.
I distance tripped this with Psykinetic (mods, can new members see the RC section?), my twin flame, soul mirror, love beyond love, and my experience of this compound (and all the other lysergamides, really) is so intricately tied to my experience of him that I'm incredible curious how this substance would be to experience not swept away in the current of overwhelming, perfect, energetic synergy with another person.
I can say that while it was an incredibly beautiful time, and until he and I are no longer 1000 miles apart, it was the best way I can imagine spending an evening, but oh god, the rest will be saved for in person... yeah.
Wow!
............
We are Part of
Something
Ancient...
Priest and
Priestess
Completing the
Circle
Mirror Souls in
Congress
We are Magick
We are
Pharmakon
Reflection of All
The God within
Shines Threw
The Path is Clear
And there is Great
Work
To be done.
-Psykinetic
Congrats. What was the dose and do you have pics of the blots?
Funny, I didn't come across ETH-LAD, although there's a B&D thread on bluelight with lots of entries. It's probably the UK ban... maybe we see 1P-ETH-LAD soon.
Funny, I didn't come across ETH-LAD, although there's a B&D thread on bluelight with lots of entries. It's probably the UK ban... maybe we see 1P-ETH-LAD soon.
afaik only full members
Continuum
Rising Star
That was 150 mics... I suspect I'll go for 225 or 300, but it won't be before November. I'm going to go in again with this 3weeks from today, but the same dosage most likely. (If ya'll don't hear from me again, I've burst into light energy and am blissed out somewhere )
I'd rather not take pics of the blotters, but they're exactly like the 1P and Al-lad blots, except ETH-LAD on one side and the molecule on the back.
)I'd rather not take pics of the blotters, but they're exactly like the 1P and Al-lad blots, except ETH-LAD on one side and the molecule on the back.
Verry Cool!!! What is the duration by your estimation?
Godsmacker
Rising Star
I'm glad you started this discussion, friend! The only Eth-LAD report on erowid mentions its use as an aphrodesiac as well at 150ug and Shulgin reported that, (with 150 µgs, orally) "Extraordinary experience, none of the demands of LSD, just a completely together trip. There were hints of tummy discomfort and some chills early in the trial, but they were trivial and quickly passed. Fine music, and fine sex."
I have heard conflicting reports as to how other lysergamides alter erotic states. Some say that LSD (the classic coke of this fairy tale family) increases sexual stimulation while others say it diminishes sexual activity and vasoconstriction can inhibit ability to form erections in some males while others have no problem with this. As always i'm interested to learn more about it. IMO experience I find that, with LSD, I find it impossible to fully embrace erotic feelings without being overwhelmed by how funny and fluffy those feelings of hypocritical species-preservation are and just laugh at them (see sticky situation for further reference) on the peak, but often feel an uptick in erotic desire and sociability around 6 hours post ingestion. One of Shuglin's most sought-after qualities in novel psychedelics was their ability to increase sexual stimulation (and one of the reasons why he loved more sensual ones such as 2c-b). If I may ask, how does ETH-LAD's alteration of the erotic differ from other Lysergamides when consumed in an intimate environment?
If possible, may you include a more detailed write-up of your experience with this molecule? I am interested to know what the set and setting were at the time of ingestion and how they changed throughout the course of experience. Also, may you further elaborate on how it is different from other ergotamines (i.e. LSD, 1p-LSD, AL-LAD, LSA, etc)? You mentioned that AL-LAD is on the opposite end of the spectrum from ETH-LAD-how is this so and which characteristics make them opposites? I think that further experience with this compound would be needed in both a solitary and intimate environment to better understand its sensual effects; ATM I'm debating as to whether I should attempt it in one or the other (300ug if alone, 150 if in a romantic environment as all reports reporting erotic stimulation seem to involve 150ug.) How does it compare to 1p/LSD in terms of visuals (i.e. are they exactly similar, more sparkly, etc) and how does body load/mindfuck compare to the others? I am very curious to know more about how this novel lysergamide stands up to its other cousins, especially considering that LSD is just another way of saying METH-LAD.
Wishing you well in your travels,
-Godsmacker
I have heard conflicting reports as to how other lysergamides alter erotic states. Some say that LSD (the classic coke of this fairy tale family) increases sexual stimulation while others say it diminishes sexual activity and vasoconstriction can inhibit ability to form erections in some males while others have no problem with this. As always i'm interested to learn more about it. IMO experience I find that, with LSD, I find it impossible to fully embrace erotic feelings without being overwhelmed by how funny and fluffy those feelings of hypocritical species-preservation are and just laugh at them (see sticky situation for further reference) on the peak, but often feel an uptick in erotic desire and sociability around 6 hours post ingestion. One of Shuglin's most sought-after qualities in novel psychedelics was their ability to increase sexual stimulation (and one of the reasons why he loved more sensual ones such as 2c-b). If I may ask, how does ETH-LAD's alteration of the erotic differ from other Lysergamides when consumed in an intimate environment?
If possible, may you include a more detailed write-up of your experience with this molecule? I am interested to know what the set and setting were at the time of ingestion and how they changed throughout the course of experience. Also, may you further elaborate on how it is different from other ergotamines (i.e. LSD, 1p-LSD, AL-LAD, LSA, etc)? You mentioned that AL-LAD is on the opposite end of the spectrum from ETH-LAD-how is this so and which characteristics make them opposites? I think that further experience with this compound would be needed in both a solitary and intimate environment to better understand its sensual effects; ATM I'm debating as to whether I should attempt it in one or the other (300ug if alone, 150 if in a romantic environment as all reports reporting erotic stimulation seem to involve 150ug.) How does it compare to 1p/LSD in terms of visuals (i.e. are they exactly similar, more sparkly, etc) and how does body load/mindfuck compare to the others? I am very curious to know more about how this novel lysergamide stands up to its other cousins, especially considering that LSD is just another way of saying METH-LAD.
Wishing you well in your travels,
-Godsmacker
Hhhmm, very pleased to read this Thank you for sharing!
I have had a few blotters of ETH-LAD sitting around for a couple months now. I think I'll give it a try with my special someone within the next few months, as we were planning on taking a journey together anyhow. I'll be sure to report all the sensual aspects of the trip as this seems perfect for that kind of endeavour
:lol:
Thank you for sharing!I have had a few blotters of ETH-LAD sitting around for a couple months now. I think I'll give it a try with my special someone within the next few months, as we were planning on taking a journey together anyhow. I'll be sure to report all the sensual aspects of the trip as this seems perfect for that kind of endeavour
:lol:
Continuum
Rising Star
That seems to be the perfect setting, Metanoia.
Dr. Shulgin was a very smart man.
Personallly, I never found lysergamides to be particularly erotic or sexual until Psykinetic and I made the leap from best friends to much more, and now I can't fathom seeing them differently.
You know those special breakthroughs when you merge with the divine and cry from the beauty of the overwhelming love you become one with? That is pretty similar to where I go with him. It's like the heaven dimension opens up.
A Samuel Coleridge poem Psykinetic sent me sums it up perfectly:
Where true Love burns Desire is Love's pure flame;
It is the reflex of our eartlhy frame,
That takes its meaning from the nobler part,
And but translates the language of the heart.
ETH-LAD heightens body sensations in a very non-lyserge way. It's incredibly MDMA like, and I have not experienced that with the others.
I'm not too big on writing up the internal specifics of my trips, except for in my personal journal. It's just so sacred and special, and language somehow fails to do it justice. With this trip in particular, most of the external happenings would belong on a totally different kind of site :lol: , but I can give you the first hour.
I finished getting my sons fed, the little one in bed watching a movie before falling asleep around 8:30. I let Psy know I was ready to begin.
We both lit candles and incense on our alters, changing our rooms into our temples. We placed the sacrament on the alter and set our intention, and away we dropped.
I like to spend comu-up on my porch swing out front, watching the big trees out front for the first signs of heightening senses. Psy and I talked about us, the course of our relationship, our plans to get a little house with some land 10 miles out of town, build a greenhouse, fire pit, workshop for his art...rolling around in the grass in the sunshine...lovely little things like that.
I spent the rest of the trip indoors in my temple room, and the specifics begin to be to personal to share.
I haven't taken LSD since somewhere around 2003-2004, and prior to that is was in the 90's, and quite frankly these lab grade, fresh novel lysergamides have been paling the quality of that acid in comparison.
1P-LSD has been completely clean, clear, absolute perfection in my experiences. It has beutiful rolling, glittering visuals, no mind fuck (though I believe it could be possible, depending on the person taking it). In my experiences, it seems to allow me to experience the Now exactly as it is, samadhi like. I've used 100ug, 200ug, and 300ug doses.
AL-LAD is like a walk through a carnival fun house...it might be a bumpy ride. :shock: It's almost DMT like in visuals and intensity. It was incredibly open eyed visual, with more computer like visuals compared to the more natural visuals of 1P or ETH. Psykinetic isn't necessarily a hardhead, but he goes in deep with psychedelics, and he lost touch with his body and merged with the net of being on 300ug. The thread here on the Nexus reports many people experiencing mind fuck, and I don't doubt this one's potential for that at all. I'm not in a rush to go in with this one again. I've just done one 300ug dose. Words of caution- start with 150ug and vigilantly watch yourself of mind fuck!!
ETH-LAD is extremely gentle, without being weak. Like I mentioned, there is very little mental trip. Very 1P like visuals, gently rolling, natural-type stuff. The body sensitivity is totally unlike the other novel lysergamies. For me, this was the slowest to develop after consumption, and lasted the longest. She's a warm blanket of love.
Start with 150ug. These are relatively unresearched novel compounds, and you need to work your way up. I learned my lesson starting with the AL-LAD at 300ug. I had a good trip, but in thinking about it in the following weeks, I see that it was dangerous and stupid to start at that dosage. I got lucky.
Dr. Shulgin was a very smart man.
Personallly, I never found lysergamides to be particularly erotic or sexual until Psykinetic and I made the leap from best friends to much more, and now I can't fathom seeing them differently.
You know those special breakthroughs when you merge with the divine and cry from the beauty of the overwhelming love you become one with? That is pretty similar to where I go with him. It's like the heaven dimension opens up.
A Samuel Coleridge poem Psykinetic sent me sums it up perfectly:
Where true Love burns Desire is Love's pure flame;
It is the reflex of our eartlhy frame,
That takes its meaning from the nobler part,
And but translates the language of the heart.
ETH-LAD heightens body sensations in a very non-lyserge way. It's incredibly MDMA like, and I have not experienced that with the others.
I'm not too big on writing up the internal specifics of my trips, except for in my personal journal. It's just so sacred and special, and language somehow fails to do it justice. With this trip in particular, most of the external happenings would belong on a totally different kind of site :lol: , but I can give you the first hour.
I finished getting my sons fed, the little one in bed watching a movie before falling asleep around 8:30. I let Psy know I was ready to begin.
We both lit candles and incense on our alters, changing our rooms into our temples. We placed the sacrament on the alter and set our intention, and away we dropped.
I like to spend comu-up on my porch swing out front, watching the big trees out front for the first signs of heightening senses. Psy and I talked about us, the course of our relationship, our plans to get a little house with some land 10 miles out of town, build a greenhouse, fire pit, workshop for his art...rolling around in the grass in the sunshine...lovely little things like that.
I spent the rest of the trip indoors in my temple room, and the specifics begin to be to personal to share.
I haven't taken LSD since somewhere around 2003-2004, and prior to that is was in the 90's, and quite frankly these lab grade, fresh novel lysergamides have been paling the quality of that acid in comparison.
1P-LSD has been completely clean, clear, absolute perfection in my experiences. It has beutiful rolling, glittering visuals, no mind fuck (though I believe it could be possible, depending on the person taking it). In my experiences, it seems to allow me to experience the Now exactly as it is, samadhi like. I've used 100ug, 200ug, and 300ug doses.
AL-LAD is like a walk through a carnival fun house...it might be a bumpy ride. :shock: It's almost DMT like in visuals and intensity. It was incredibly open eyed visual, with more computer like visuals compared to the more natural visuals of 1P or ETH. Psykinetic isn't necessarily a hardhead, but he goes in deep with psychedelics, and he lost touch with his body and merged with the net of being on 300ug. The thread here on the Nexus reports many people experiencing mind fuck, and I don't doubt this one's potential for that at all. I'm not in a rush to go in with this one again. I've just done one 300ug dose. Words of caution- start with 150ug and vigilantly watch yourself of mind fuck!!
ETH-LAD is extremely gentle, without being weak. Like I mentioned, there is very little mental trip. Very 1P like visuals, gently rolling, natural-type stuff. The body sensitivity is totally unlike the other novel lysergamies. For me, this was the slowest to develop after consumption, and lasted the longest. She's a warm blanket of love.
Start with 150ug. These are relatively unresearched novel compounds, and you need to work your way up. I learned my lesson starting with the AL-LAD at 300ug. I had a good trip, but in thinking about it in the following weeks, I see that it was dangerous and stupid to start at that dosage. I got lucky.
Very interesting
Due to the subjective nature of any experience i try to take all reports with a pinch of salt but Shulgins comments do sound promising, as do many of the reports coming through recently.
"What a remarkable compound. It is a little more potent than LSD, but much less aggressive in the nature of its action. There appears to be little if any of the push, the taking control nature, of LSD and a greatly modified degree of visual distortion. The warmth and humor appears to be there, but all seems more allowing rather than demanding"
Although it can have a serious side too i found this to be the case with AL-LAD ≤300mcg which is somewhat similar to ETH-LAD structurally, having a stable modification rather than a pro-drug modification that is eventually removed like 1P-LSD. Given AL-LADs dissimilarity to LSD experientially i wouldn't be surprised if this is one is actually a little different too. Please bare in mind Shulgins comments above were for ≤150mcg, i've read a few reports recently where >150mcg is quite an involving experience.
METH-LAD (LSD)
ETH-LAD
AL-LAD
Shulgin also reported that potency loss may be an issue in solution, hopefully it holds up a bit better on the blotters, by many accounts the 150mcg blotters are quite potent with a few people saying they're among the strongest they've encountered.
Thanks for reporting
Due to the subjective nature of any experience i try to take all reports with a pinch of salt but Shulgins comments do sound promising, as do many of the reports coming through recently.
"What a remarkable compound. It is a little more potent than LSD, but much less aggressive in the nature of its action. There appears to be little if any of the push, the taking control nature, of LSD and a greatly modified degree of visual distortion. The warmth and humor appears to be there, but all seems more allowing rather than demanding"
Although it can have a serious side too i found this to be the case with AL-LAD ≤300mcg which is somewhat similar to ETH-LAD structurally, having a stable modification rather than a pro-drug modification that is eventually removed like 1P-LSD. Given AL-LADs dissimilarity to LSD experientially i wouldn't be surprised if this is one is actually a little different too. Please bare in mind Shulgins comments above were for ≤150mcg, i've read a few reports recently where >150mcg is quite an involving experience.
Shulgin also reported that potency loss may be an issue in solution, hopefully it holds up a bit better on the blotters, by many accounts the 150mcg blotters are quite potent with a few people saying they're among the strongest they've encountered.
Thanks for reporting
Psykinetic
Rising Star
I just read all this great info and wanted to chime in.
I was on the other half of my Loves trip( Continuum).
I have to say she captured the experience perfictly
.
It was bliss...now keep in mind we are connected and bonded on the deepest levels...but this compound in particular seemed absolutly perfict for a sensual deeply intimate trip with a loved one. The body high was electric...her voice would send anazing chills threw out my CNS. Like MDMA but...better
. I had very pretty light visuals...my head was totaly clear...we could have talked about anything and i wouldnt have gotten lost. I really was blown away at how uniquely wonderful this one is.
Im a huge fan of 1p and was curious but not expecting so so much from the ETH...its a winner...just beautiful.
I cant wait to try it again with my Goddess in a few weeks when we are actually in the same room.
I was on the other half of my Loves trip( Continuum).
I have to say she captured the experience perfictly
.It was bliss...now keep in mind we are connected and bonded on the deepest levels...but this compound in particular seemed absolutly perfict for a sensual deeply intimate trip with a loved one. The body high was electric...her voice would send anazing chills threw out my CNS. Like MDMA but...better
. I had very pretty light visuals...my head was totaly clear...we could have talked about anything and i wouldnt have gotten lost. I really was blown away at how uniquely wonderful this one is.Im a huge fan of 1p and was curious but not expecting so so much from the ETH...its a winner...just beautiful.
I cant wait to try it again with my Goddess in a few weeks when we are actually in the same room.
From both of your descriptions, I'm quite excited to give this a try :d And not even being in the same room....wow :d
It will most likely be around Christmas holidays, or New Year's Eve, that I take the voyage with my Love. Oh, the anticipation!
Thank you for sharing your experiences Continuum and Psykinetic! :thumb_up:
:d It will most likely be around Christmas holidays, or New Year's Eve, that I take the voyage with my Love. Oh, the anticipation!
Thank you for sharing your experiences Continuum and Psykinetic! :thumb_up:
I wonder if this analogue is very close, if not identical, to the effects of the ultra-rare LAMID and Et-LAM.
Continuum
Rising Star
We tried 300 ug for the first time last night, and its Way more visual at that dose. Still not much mental trip without losing any of the physiological benefits.
The one thing we've noticed after a few ETH tries is it seems to more dehydrating than 1P.
Again, absolutely beautiful, universe creating, loss of self in connection trips. Just an Amazing compound!
The one thing we've noticed after a few ETH tries is it seems to more dehydrating than 1P.
Again, absolutely beautiful, universe creating, loss of self in connection trips. Just an Amazing compound!
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