Ethanol extraction successful, what now?

[bindu]

i extracted some nice caapi resin+xtals and made pills from it

also extracted chakruna and got some goey wax from it
that chakruna wax is very hard to digest and really horrible.

Is there any way i can make it smokable or without junk?
Maybe mix with water and vinegar, defat. NaOhwater and naptha?

would that work, does anyone know

 

[endlessness]

I mean, sure if there is dmt from chacruna there, recrystallizing with naphtha will work, but its kinda weird question considering this is the eco friendly extraction tek subforum.

So maybe you want to first think of ways to clean without having to resort to petrochems? So let me get this straight you just pulled with ethanol from chacruna in its natural form? So there was no base added at this point? One option would be to add a bit of hot water, mix with sodium carb, evap/dry and pull with dry IPA or ethanol or acetone, it might clean it up a bit. Or redissolve in hot acidified water, filter (to remove undissolved impurities), base with lye and pull with limonene and proceed like BLAB tek. Or redissolve in hot acidified water and filter but then evap till its nearly dry, mix with CaOH or sodium carb and then pull with limo and finish like BLAB

 

[bindu]

just 95eth, no base and so on. With Hawaiian chakruna

well, my intention was to keep it ecofriendly, but right now im looking for the higher yield

will try some of your recipes with organic lye for flavor and liquid biomass derivate for pulling

i just wonder why it has to be hot acidified water? How much acid, which is recommended?


water will be heated by eco friendly means, of course

 

[bindu]

the acidified water got rid of all the gunk! which was saved as a nice green chlorophyll color to paint with.

the rest of it got basified with lye water and warm naptha was added
grey bubbles where forming in the natpha. assuming it was an emulsion i added more lye and voila it seperated perfectly.
The resulting top layer liquid siphoned off qickly washed with ccarbonate water and siphoned off again. colour changed from slightly yellow to almost white and brown pieces fell out during the wash (lye?)

the rest was put in the freezer for some days. After a few days nothing has formed, the naptha just turned a little milky.
Wanting to help the crystal formation i put like 3 grains of salt into the liquid and waited again a couple of days

Where a small white ricecorn sized mass formed which was picked out of the solution and put in a crystalization dish to dry out.

The mass soon melted completely and after a while evaporated leaving no trace of desired end product.
The only thing achieved by all off this was a teasing smell coming from the evaporation dish, reminiscent of flowers and death

So? is it worh it to do some more pulls and just evap the liqid. My freezer takes quite some days. Naptha is very expensive here where i live. At least the naptha i know about working.

 

[endlessness]

How big was the pull and how much chacruna was it in the first place? Did you do a thorough pulling, by mixing and letting stand a few times before separating each pull? If nothing precipitated most likely it was just too much naphtha or you werent thorough enough. Or maybe your freezer also doesnt go cold enough.

Another possibility was that the chacruna had a lot of dmt n-oxide which isnt being pulled by naphtha, so you would nead something like limonene or xylene.

When you say "leaving no trace", not even an oil? Often it may seem like little but if you re-x the oil something might come out.. Make another thorough pull, maybe use it also to dissolve whatever oil was left from the evap of the first pull, then evap it all till almost the end and stick in the freezer (or do a slow evap), see if anything comes out.

Good luck

btw im wondering what subforum to move this to considering its naphtha, not ecofriendly teks.. any suggestion?