Ever feel like you have a choice to stay in hyperspace?

[No Knowing]

I've seen this mentioned before so I know I'm not the only one.

Do you ever feel like there is some kind of choice for you to stay in hyperspace while you are visiting? I have this feeling during most if not all of my breakthroughs.

I have even had one breakthrough where I was there forever subjectively, and then came back if that makes any sense.

I often feel like when I'm there I realize that at some point I will be staying there, indefinitely. Could part of my consciousness reside in hyperspace while my body roams the earth? Am I going to choose to leave this world and reside there leaving a gaping hole in the space time continuum where I existed?

A more reasonable, yet untestable, idea is that I am visiting an after death state when breaking through and I am just sensing, while in that state, that after this life I will permanently reside there. This idea brings comfort to me yet doesn't make long for death or anything. Rather, it makes me treat this life as an exercise in letting go for the ULTIMATE letting go.

“While I thought that I was learning how to live, I have been learning how to die.” -Leonardo Da Vinci

 

[Nathanial.Dread]

I've never had that option to say there 'forever,' but I have felt like I am coming "home," if you know what I mean.
It's kind of like mushrooms: anyone who's taken a high dose will remember the feeling of freedom that comes with it and the sense of awakening into a more profound or 'real' way of thinking.

DMT is like that, but instead of a way of thinking, it's an entire universe of being.

My 2c
Blessings
~ND

 

[adam]

I have sometimes thought the DMT experience is experiencing an aspect of the self that is always present in that place. Its non-linear therefore it can be there waiting for you to get back before it resumes itself. I think that may account for the sometimes familiar feeling in certain breakthroughs. I don't know if that makes sense. Just speculation.

To answer your question I don't ever recall feeling the choice to stay there while vaporizing DMT, but on Ayahuasca I feel that I have been given the choice to leave my body (die) but i denied it.

 

[Halfanimal]

When I breakthrough with changa it immediately feels like a sort of homecoming, like I'm back after a long journey away living my life back to where my family are. It's really special and beautiful I close my eyes and hyperspace opens up like a flower and I say to myself "oh yeah, of course! I remember now," and all the spirits welcome me in, like I was always destined to be there at that moment, and I've always been there in some sense, like adam said. Because time becomes a totally different thing in hyperspace, it's never going to be totally accurate to describe it with any temporal properties we use in everyday speech. It's eternal and fleeting at the same time. It's me and not me. I die and am born. Not one and not more than one. Everything about it is a contradiction when I try to describe it in english, our words don't understand hyperspace. But it's totally coherent and makes perfect sense to the one who experiences it.

 

[Jin]

well recently i was also given the choice to stay in hyperspace forever , infact i even thought i was stuck there for a day or so , yet i gladly refused to stay and came back

what does this all mean ?

 

[Orion]

well recently i was also given the choice to stay in hyperspace forever , infact i even thought i was stuck there for a day or so , yet i gladly refused to stay and came back

what does this all mean ?

You give it meaning if you so desire, perhaps subconsciously part of you even fancies the idea of staying there forever, and a contrasting part of your psyche fears it? It's for you to say.

 

[DeMenTed]

I want to stay there forever

 

[edge2054]

I've had a number of experiences where I felt like hyperspace was the real world and that my normal life is simply illusion.

So yes, the feeling of wanting to stay has crossed my mind more than once. I think that generally I equate hyperspace to a state of Nirvana. Where I'm adrift in a sea of no attachments. But as I come down all the things I worry about on a day to day basis creep back in.

On my last DMT trip though I came to realize something about all those things I worry about. They're actually all the things I care about too. My wife, my son, my family. Keeping them all safe.

Not too terrible of a thing to be attached too really

Of course I have my insecurities too that I wrestle with. But hey, I kinda like it that way. Without them what would I do with my time? Or to put it another way, self confidence and self acceptance isn't a goal, it's a tree, that I like to water and watch grow, taller and taller.

 

[Jin]

well recently i was also given the choice to stay in hyperspace forever , infact i even thought i was stuck there for a day or so , yet i gladly refused to stay and came back

what does this all mean ?

You give it meaning if you so desire, perhaps subconsciously part of you even fancies the idea of staying there forever, and a contrasting part of your psyche fears it? It's for you to say.

...insightful

 

[d*l*b]

I experience the choice to stay in hyperspace with fair regularity, I have never wanted to actually take up the offer so not pushed any further!

I also experience being stuck there and have had to force myself out a few times. I don't like the idea of leaving consensus reality on a permanent basis, despite liking travelling in other views of reality a lot.

A nice place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there.

 

[Hiyo Quicksilver]

I've noticed that the more I pay attention and learn and the older I grow, the difference between hyperspace and reality grows less definable. The two merge together, as it were, inspiring a realtime re-examination of both as the various fragments of experience drift together into one moment.

I've never had the impression, when faced with the periodic offer or possibility of "staying in hyperspace", that it meant dying, being stuck "there" forever, leaving a hole in the world, etc... And nor have I, upon taking the opportunity with a clear head and strong will, ever experienced a prolonged cessation in my ability to participate in material reality, injury, confusion or any other detriment. Rather, the two merge together in a fantastic and utterly trans formative fashion. The realm of energy/the mind/spirit/information/what-have-you shows its inextricable connection to material reality. Material reality shows, by its place in that relationship, the key to the mystery that surrounds it, and the path continues to unfold itself before my feet.

I'm not saying that always "taking the red pill" is a good choice for most folks, nor am I suggesting that one be recklessly bold when faced with hefty decisions... But it seems worth pointing out that if one operates based on assumption and never challenges their own understanding, then they may miss out on amazing opportunity.

The idea that the world being offered to you cannot exist in perfect harmony with the world you live in now is simply a delusion. Despite what arrogant seekers and psychonauts may claim, we living beings do not know death. Assuming that the unknown is the after-death state, quantum reality, dark matter, or anything else is arrogance of the most supreme degree... and is just begging to hold yourself back.
If you assume that your relationship with your mind and body is your life, if you assume that the going onward into the unfathomable is death, then you are turning your back on the world of possibilities that LIFE is so graciously offering you. Have the courage to take a look and see how wrong you were about everything, and maybe in doing so you'll find that life outshines your wildest dreams.

...or remain stricken dumb by fear of the unknown, afraid to face the world you've been chasing the whole time simply because you've covered the door with symbols that terrify you. After all, it's your call.

Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. Love is Law.
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[anrchy]

I was pretty much told that I didn't have a choice. That I was going to stay there forever and it kinda freaked me out. Caused me to pull out of the strongest breakthrough I've ever had right into the strongest oevs ever.

Scary thought.

 

[Hiyo Quicksilver]

"...But the need of his fear was stronger than the will of his fathers who brought him to this place, and away he ran into the night. At that moment, every true Gael paused to listen for the call he almost heard... and shed a tear for what he might have been."

 

[DreaMTripper]

When I breakthrough with changa it immediately feels like a sort of homecoming, like I'm back after a long journey away living my life back to where my family are. It's really special and beautiful I close my eyes and hyperspace opens up like a flower and I say to myself "oh yeah, of course! I remember now," and all the spirits welcome me in, like I was always destined to be there at that moment, and I've always been there in some sense, like adam said. Because time becomes a totally different thing in hyperspace, it's never going to be totally accurate to describe it with any temporal properties we use in everyday speech. It's eternal and fleeting at the same time. It's me and not me. I die and am born. Not one and not more than one. Everything about it is a contradiction when I try to describe it in english, our words don't understand hyperspace. But it's totally coherent and makes perfect sense to the one who experiences it.

Yeah Ive had the same feeling and sometimes it feels like THIS life is part of the cosmic joke. "Ok lets contain part of our conciousness on this rock and see what happens. With plantlife as a direct conduit between the two states of conciousness.