Experience/Mileage with HIELO or DMT vape juice?

[KTX]

Hey everyone, I'm back on the forum after making my first post last month. I'm really strongly considering refining some DMT now, and its looking like making an E-Juice will be the way I go with it, but the article on the TEK says it's difficult to achieve a breakthrough with this method of intake.

For those that have vaped this HIELO/DMT E-juice, does this align with your experience? Has it been hard for you to intake enough DMT to break through this way?

Ultimately, I would like to break through, so if this is difficult with this method I'll likely keep searching for one. Route of intake has been the biggest barrier to me actually starting to process to refine some DMT from MHRB and start experiencing it, because I just can't decide how I'm going to take the actual spice.

Sandwich method? Wont work, my job does drug tests which Marijuana would pop up on, and I generally don't like smoking anything. Unless someone can recommend a good non-psychoactive herb I can smoke to help me intake DMT.
The Machine is disfavored now, and I'd rather not have to buy diamond drill bits and make a whole contraption just to still have to struggle to intake enough DMT to break through, all the while inhaling gross burnt smoke with this method.
The GVG contraption everyone talks about seems good, but it's quite costly and apparently hard to use.
I don't want to make anything with Harmalas because I want a short, bite-sized trip.
But the vape juice seems like the perfect method, as its a good synthesis of being relatively inexpensive, straightforward, painless (no nasty smoke from burnt DMT) and generally hard to mess up. My only concern is not being able to get the proper dose.

I thank you all for your input, as usual. Looking forward to reading your replies.
KTX out

 

[blig-blug]

I have never gone for breakthrough with vape juice, and actually I made my juice particularly weak to get low doses. Still, I was close to accidentally breaking through twice, after a relatively prolonged session with it. So I think it shouldn't be that difficult with a more normal strength juice. I'm using a 0.3 ohm coil at 60W, I imagine with a vape pen (instead of a mod) it could be quite difficult.

 

[KTX]

I have never gone for breakthrough with vape juice, and actually I made my juice particularly weak to get low doses. Still, I was close to accidentally breaking through twice, after a relatively prolonged session with it. So I think it shouldn't be that difficult with a more normal strength juice. I'm using a 0.3 ohm coil at 60W, I imagine with a vape pen (instead of a mod) it could be quite difficult.

I see. Thank you for your input, blig-blug.

 

[lazloz]

You can break through with a vape if the concentration of spice is at least 30%. Most e-cigs allow for 10 seconds puffs that deliver north of 20mg of juice. With around 7mg of spice per puff, you're bound to breakthrough with 3-8 puffs, provided you inhale for 7-10 seconds, hold for 10-20 seconds and do them in a tight sequence. Or you can take 15-30 mg of mixed harmalas under your tongue 20 minutes before and have the time to build up to breaking through. The length of the trip is going to be roughly doubled, meaning that with the same 3-8 puffs you're going to trip for 8-15 minutes instead of 3-8 minutes. Choose wisely, cheers.