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Extracting 5-MeO-DMT

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I figure since this thread seems to have been revived, it might not be a bad place for my question. Which of the following species would likely contain more (or any) 5-MeO-DMT?
I currently have access to:

Virola calophylla

Virola surinamensis

Virola theidora

Phalaris arundinacea "Yugo Red" strain

I am tempted to buy a medium-small amount of each and see for myself. But when factoring in shipping costs, that would be a pretty expensive experiment (I still haven't heard back about my federal research grant :lol: ). Anyone have any experience/knowledge that might help to steer me in the right direction?
 
Thanks, endlessness. I imagine the resin would be much more difficult for me to procure, but I will continue to look into it. Is it not possible to create the resin from the bark, or would that require fresh-off-the-tree bark? I will most likely use two different virola species and do a side-by-side test, then share my results. Probably theiodora and calophylla. Perhaps I will investigate some phalaris too... Might as well go for broke in the name of research! :d
 
endlessness said:
Well, the resin is inside the bark in theory, but I already heard stories that people first take out the resin and then sell the resinless bark... Maybe its not true.. Its most definitely worth a try!
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That crossed my mind as well. I am sure some people do that, but I think I should be alright.
 
I am unaware of anybody having sucess with vendor bought bark or 'resin' of this plant.Unless things have changed in the last couple of years there's a strong chance you'll be wasting your money on bunk material:(
 
has anyone had any success with desmodium pullchelum

its the only source where i live and perhaps easy for me to get as i am not going to import RC's

dzznutzz , is desmodium working for you ?
 
If someone has access to South American witches markets it could be worth looking for barks sold under the name of 'angico'. Several things may be encountered but a common one is Anadenathera peregrina bark.
That one in particular looks to be a decent 5-MeO source if using its roots or bark or maybe twigs (listed in decreasing order of reportd concentration) but its presently almost an undeveloped area.
A. peregrina roots are so far the highest reported plant source for that molecule but there are precious few evaluations of it (see a summary of what I could locate/obtain at Erowid Online Books : "Ayahuasca: alkaloids, plants, and analogs" by Keeper of the Trout).
Many leguminous shrubs and trees will tolerate a decent degree of harvesting of subsurface roots without harming the plant (ie using common sense about balancing what is a decent amount to take away or to leave for the plant)

It might also be worthwhile to analyze colubrina and cebil bark and roots?
 
Jin said:
has anyone had any success with desmodium pullchelum

its the only source where i live and perhaps easy for me to get as i am not going to import RC's

dzznutzz , is desmodium working for you ?
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Just done an extraction on 300 g leaf with interesting results .. I've pulled a decent amount of alkaloids using d limonene and xylene pulls ... Just need someone to do TLC analysis .. Check out my thread extracting from desmodium pulchellum . Check out the photos ... There is a good chance there 5 meo in there :)
 
Entheogenerator said:
endlessness said:
Well, the resin is inside the bark in theory, but I already heard stories that people first take out the resin and then sell the resinless bark... Maybe its not true.. Its most definitely worth a try!
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That crossed my mind as well. I am sure some people do that, but I think I should be alright.
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The main reason why the 5MeO-DMT extraction is the problem to get a decent source, or to manage to separate constituants in say phalaris.
Now with TLC, this would be another one worth investigating (small sample of different sources - then bigger batch and extract/isolate).

I wish you good luck and let us know !
 
5-AcO ? You mean 4-AcO ?

While it is theoretically possible to exist I've never heard of 5-AcO-DMT

Either way, its a completely different substance. Its like asking whats the difference between DMT and psilocin (4-HO-DMT), they are different substances.
 
endlessness said:
5-AcO ? You mean 4-AcO ?

While it is theoretically possible to exist I've never heard of 5-AcO-DMT

Either way, its a completely different substance. Its like asking whats the difference between DMT and psilocin (4-HO-DMT), they are different substances.
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Yes, that's what I meant.
What is extracted from Acacia Confusa?
It seems as if I've got my compound names mixed up😳
 
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