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Extracting DMT with ethanol, vinegar and sodium carbonate

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Woolmer said:
Evaporating nearly a liter of acetone per 50 g of bark is wasteful. Perhaps you could rather add FASA or benzoic acid to the acetone, which could then be reused for future extractions.

As for goo/wax, see here: "Enough GOO questions! read this"
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Yes incredibly wasteful. I wouldn't do it again. Distilation would be better. How else would you drop out freebase without freeze precipitation following this tech.

Probably better to extract plant material with acidic water, evaporate, defat with non polar solvent, basify, dry, extract freebased dimethyltryptmine with 250 ml acetone and evaporate.

Supposedly freebased DMT solubility in acetone at room temperature is around 1 gram per 100 ml.
 
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Phenethylamine23 said:
Supposedly freebased DMT solubility in acetone at room temperature is around 1 gram per 100 ml.
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I suspect it's even higher solubility than that. Push up the temperature and you can really dissolve a lot of DMT in acetone. I'm not sure whether it has been attempted, but I think a variation of the bufotenine extraction tek could be another simple way to quickly yield relatively pure DMT benzoate.

It might go something like this:
1) Mix 50 g bark with 12.5 g sodium carbonate
2) Add 75 g water
3) Allow to sit for 60 min
4) Air dry completely or use a microwave (might help lyse the cell walls) or oven at 70 °C
5) Do 3 x 75-100 ml boiling acetone extractions. Acetone must be dry.
6) Decant/filter acetone... Or maybe use a french press.
6) Combine acetone and add 3 g benzoic acid or until no more clouding is observed
7) Allow to crystalise overnight

This worked beautifully for me with Anandenanthera colubrina seeds even without a defat and yielded very high. Probably the quickest extraction I've performed. TLC revealed only 1 visible spot.
 
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Phenethylamine23 said:
Yes incredibly wasteful. I wouldn't do it again. Distilation would be better. How else would you drop out freebase without freeze precipitation following this tech.

Probably better to extract plant material with acidic water, evaporate, defat with non polar solvent, basify, dry, extract freebased dimethyltryptmine with 250 ml acetone and evaporate.

Supposedly freebased DMT solubility in acetone at room temperature is around 1 gram per 100 ml.
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I’m fairly sure it’s higher than that.. I’ve dissolved much more than a gram in less than 100ml
 
Jox said:
Ok my mistakes and successes:

Mistake:

On a double boiler I dried MHRB and sodium carbonate. WRONG, I got a lots of wax, which I didn't get in my first extraction,,which I dried on radiator on very low,heat. This mistake made me repeat the steps of cleaning up,,which overall made it longer, and I am sure effected my yield.

Other steps is ok to evap some on double boiler and finish up on on room temperature.

I cleaned by mistake the final DMT with white spirit, and placed my report here.

I started with 11,400 mg of MHRB and ended up with 1g of pure DMT. Fantastic, I think I would have even a bit more have I not had the wax problem.
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I read your report Endlessness and did a quick translation search on bencina blanca rectificada. I got Rectified white benzine. Slightly different spelling for benzene than we're used to but the sentence examples seem to use both spellings interchangeably. I couldn't find what the rectified meant.
 
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This seems to have drifted from the original purpose of safer kitchen tek over the years. Has anyone locked in a formal process based of Endlessness's original intention without including anything other than the alcohol, sodium carbonate and vinegar? There are so many pages on this tek I may have missed it. Thanks for any response.
 
mineatript said:
I read your report Endlessness and did a quick translation search on bencina blanca rectificada. I got Rectified white benzine. Slightly different spelling for benzene than we're used to but the sentence examples seem to use both spellings interchangeably. I couldn't find what the rectified meant.
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Benzine is not the same as benzene, just as "wire" is not the same as "were"! This is very important to note, and use of the term "benzine" should be avoided and heavily discouraged. I've written about this on multiple occasions.

Naphtha is plagued with a plethora of names, which is down to factors in the social history of the commercialisation of petroleum products.

The pure compound, benzene, C₆H₆ - while being an effective solvent in the laboratory, should not be used domestically on account of its carcinogenic properties.

Benzine, on the other hand, is a mixed fraction of largely aliphatic hydrocarbon petroleum distillate, better known as naphtha. In most places it is specifically regulated to keep its benzene content below 5%.

Clarifying this distinction becomes more difficult when the common name for naphtha in languages other than English is still something along the lines of "benzin", such as the "bencina" in the current example. The German-speaking world gets around this by using the term "Benzol", which has cropped up in English as "benzole" (as in "National Benzole Corporation"), but that still has the potential for causing confusion among the unwary. The "-ol" suffix general refers to an alcohol or similar hydroxy derivative (particularly phenol, which the uninitiated could be forgiven for thinking is what "benzol" indicates).

"Rectified" means the product has been distilled to meet a specific standard and is also found in the term "rectified spirits of wine", for example, as a kind of high-proof alcohol - which, incidentally, would be more in keeping with the idea behind this thread.

@Jox hasn't been here for ages, btw.
 
This post, found by following some links through the forum and reading more than just one post, also helps provide some clarification:

White spirit for cleaning DMT

Hi all, I had some DMT, from emdlessness'' tek. I bought in Mexico "bencina blanca rectificada" I was told in a Spanish language forum that this is hexane. But it was not, my dmt didn't get dissolved, but instead all the impurities got dissolved. At first I was pissed, but then I realized I...
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Transform said:
This post, found by following some links through the forum and reading more than just one post, also helps provide some clarification:

White spirit for cleaning DMT

Hi all, I had some DMT, from emdlessness'' tek. I bought in Mexico "bencina blanca rectificada" I was told in a Spanish language forum that this is hexane. But it was not, my dmt didn't get dissolved, but instead all the impurities got dissolved. At first I was pissed, but then I realized I...
forum.dmt-nexus.me forum.dmt-nexus.me
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Thanks for the clarification on terms. I kind of jumped the gun on replying. It was my first time posting here and I was trying to be helpful. I Should have known you all were way ahead of my knowledge base. Did Jox or anyone else ever figure out just what he used and a source or more accurate name?
 
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