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Extracting psilocin or muscimol from urine...

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blueskine

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After reading many teks about extracting psychedelics from mushroom it seem like there hasn't been one that really works. What if it were extracted from urine?

It seems like the best molecules for exraction would be psilocin and muscimol. Both these are are converted from psilocybin to psilocin and ibotenic acid to muscimol most effectivily in the human body. Urine has been drunk from
shamens who have taken mushroom and the effects were passed on to the drinker.

So, I am thinking that fasting for a period of time with plently of water until you take mushrooms. Collect your urine and at this point I am not sure the best way to go.

Could this be done? If you can get over the fact you are dealing with urine.
 
Talks about conversion of ibotenic acid...
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found this...

"The potency of the mushroom does not decrease significantly until around the seventh consumer, because the muscimol from fly agaric is essentially unaltered after being secreted from the kidneys. Not only does this trait conserve the mushrooms, but it also eliminates unpleasant side-effects caused by muscarine, as this does not pass through urine and only the initial ingestor must experience the unpleasant effects."
 
ahmmmm... why not just getting more mushrooms? I wouldnt think of extracting urine, but whatever rocks your boat... :)

btw, you have to quote source from your information otherwise how can one know if its reliable or not?
 
I had the idea of posting a tek + pictures for the extraction of bufotenine from human faeces as an April Fool's joke. The tek would depict my faeces in a suitable container, then mixing sodium carbonate with it and finally adding loads of xylene and boiling it in the oven. The idea of the smell of cooked crap in the oven plus boiling xylene really woke me up this morning.

The posting didn't happen cuz I was not in the mood of defecating in any container suitable for the said extraction.

Now, of course one can extract muscimol, mescaline (yes!) and maybe traces of psilocin (most of it will anyway be deaminated + destroyed) but one question came to my mind:


If I, sober like the sunshine this morning, were not in the mood to crap in a container and extract bufotenine, where would a person while tripping find the courage and clarity to collect his urine for further processing?!?!?!?!
 
Infundibulum said:

If I, sober like the sunshine this morning, were not in the mood to crap in a container and extract bufotenine, where would a person while tripping find the courage and clarity to collect his urine for further processing?!?!?!?!
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errrrrrm, i dunno, but I definitely pissed in a bottle multiple times on my first amanita experience. Unfortunately I wasn't deep enough to be able to convince myself to chug-a-lug-a-lug later on in the experience, but I came close. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, but at least my throat's not urine-stained 😉

peace
SB
 
So. Would the next step to dry the urine and extract from the residue or extract from it fluid?

The reason I am wondering is almost endless supply of psychedelics and possibly get it into a freebase form for vaporizing.
 
blueskine said:
So. Would the next step to dry the urine and extract from the residue or extract from it fluid?
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Your best bet is to let the container stand for some time OR slightly boil them in acid for around 1 hour. The idea is to break down the urea into ammonia and carbon dioxide (happens slowly by time or faster with boiling) that may interfere with the next steps.

Then reduce the urine to a more manageable quantity, basify and extract with a NP solvent of choice. Please always freeze-precipitate or back-salt into acidic water. Loads of other crap in the urine will be soluble in the non-polar solvent, especially the cholesterol-derived ones.

blueskine said:
The reason I am wondering is almost endless supply of psychedelics and possibly get it into a freebase form for vaporizing.
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It is not really an endless supply, you understand that, aye? Even in the case of endogenous psychedelics you'll have to work with massive amounts of urine. You'll have to ask your friends for help to supply theirs. But soon you;ll have no friends, only a stinking house. Watch that last one, neighbours can get nosy and call the cops.

As for psilocin, most will be metabolised before secretion so you cannot ingest, excrete, isolate and ingest again foreva and eva.

Muscimol you may get away with it extracting and re-ingesting. Same goes for mescaline.

If you need any further help, please do not hesitate to ask, the nexus will be here to help you with your urinary endeavours!

blueskine said:
One more reason. I don't want to drink piss.
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It is not as bad - SWIM has drank his urine quite a few times when drunk and it always tasted awrite, maybe a bit like a cup of tea of the proper temperature. Also, it would be a good idea to gulp 2-3 liters to see if there are any actives there to begin with. You know, like a pilot experiment.
 
Infundibulum said:
blueskine said:
One more reason. I don't want to drink piss.
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It is not as bad - SWIM has drank his urine quite a few times when drunk and it always tasted awrite, maybe a bit like a cup of tea of the proper temperature. Also, it would be a good idea to gulp 2-3 liters to see if there are any actives there to begin with. You know, like a pilot experiment.
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:) This is the type of conversation I enjoy overhearing in person.
 
With these new filter bottles, urine can be turned back in to salty water... Muscimol laced salty water!@

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This has got to be one of the funniest threads I've stumbled on in a "wee" while, poking around the archives. Be sure to scroll up for the full benefit :lol:
 
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