Ashwagandha with psychedelics or harmala

[harmala_afficianado]

Wether taking the two together or spacing them a few hours to day, what has been your experience? Some reports say it blunts the effects, while other reports say the opposite, it apparently upregulates 5ht2a with chronic use, but it also lowers cortisol with is essential during a "trip", so i'm curious about everyones experience.

 

[Ruebacca]

I put not much attension to it back in the day when I mixed everything active. what i remember is that ashwagandha, had a very strong calming and mood lifting effect when taken in very high doses of diy ethanol extracts. but only once, and then never that strong again.

After that, the immediate effect where still present but, nowhere like the first time. Didnt got much out of it but still used it over a long time daily in medium dose range.

Nowadays i completeley lost interest in it because i found rue and amanita muscaria.

Amanitas might be something to check out if youre looking for a anxiolytic and calming addition. Works way better that ashwa for me persionally.

 

[harmala_afficianado]

Didnt got much out of it but still used it over a long time daily in medium dose range.

Do you not remember if psychedelics were any different during that period?

Amanitas might be something to check out if youre looking for a anxiolytic and calming addition. Works way better that ashwa for me persionally.

I would love to try amanita, but sadly it is not available where i live.

I found ashwagandha before bed helps me sleep well, the first few days the rue would hit extra hard if i drink coffee in the morning (harder than coffee+rue without ashwagandha the day before) but if i don't it feels like my my cortisol is too low and i feel slightly unmotivated the whole day, so i'm not sure if its sustainable long term, maybe i should just drink alot of coffee to balance the cortisol blunting? We will see i guess, i'm just worried psychedelics will be muted, as alot of reports say.

 

[Ruebacca]

i did not notice any strange interaction with psychedelics. maybe just try.

Nowadays I stopped coffe completly because i drank way, way to much. I feel soooo much better now with just a little greentea in the morning and a little bit of rue at somedays. the rue really does not go well with coffe IME . Mate or Greentea or Blacktea seems ok. Mate has the lowest side effects with rue for me.

Maybe try getting off caffeine and see how sleep might improve. Was a gamechanger for me. I know its hard, I only did ZERO for a view weeks and now im back on 1green tea. compared to megadosing coffe before, its almost nothing.

worth trying.

btw the dateseedcoffe is really nice,
thanks for the tip my friend !

 

[harmala_afficianado]

Nowadays I stopped coffe completly because i drank way, way to much. I feel soooo much better now with just a little greentea in the morning and a little bit of rue at somedays. the rue really does not go well with coffe IME . Mate or Greentea or Blacktea seems ok. Mate has the lowest side effects with rue for me.

I rarely drink coffee with rue, i drink coffee maybe once a week, rue makes coffee hit lile a hardcore stimulant, at times i felt like i was on meth lol.

I frequently use pure cacao powder with rue, alot smoother than coffee and adds a beautiful touch to the rue, ive also used yerba mate with it, it feels similar to cacao but without the serotonin glow that cacao produces, i like it more than coffee+rue tho.

Maybe try getting off caffeine and see how sleep might improve. Was a gamechanger for me. I know its hard, I only did ZERO for a view weeks and now im back on 1green tea. compared to megadosing coffe before, its almost nothing.

the insomnia i have is 90% from rue, if i take huge doses its very hard to sleep, days where i don't even consume cacao i might not sleep well, while days where i would drink alot coffee with rue i might sleep just fine.

btw the dateseedcoffe is really nice,
thanks for the tip my friend !

Anytime my friend , honestly as a person who has health as the main priority in life, and tried alot and alot of different plants and herbs for health, date seeds are probably the best one ive ever tried (after rue), it made me realize that ive always had brain fog when im at baseline, it gives me energy, clears away any brain fog, and helps with sleep, and also makes my vision very crisp and detailed, everything becomes very HD, especially if take it with rue. there is no reason not to take it lol.

i did not notice any strange interaction with psychedelics. maybe just try.

I took ashwagandha yesterday, and i decided to take 10g rue today after being on 4-5g for a while, normally it will be very smooth with barely any side effects (because i was taking that amount daily for a a month or two before, and it seems that it caused some permatolerance) but today i was absolutely demolished lol, like holy shit i can't remember when i was the last time i was this high on rue, i was in bed for hours the whole time laying on my back unable to move, i could barely see what's infront me from the chaos in my vision field, i thought that was my day to go at some point, i kept seeking forgiveness, lol, now on the comedown i feel heavenly.

Always when i take rue and it hits hard, i keep telling myself why did i dose that high and i keep regretting it, then after the peak i feel infinitely thankful for taking that amount, always.

 

[Ruebacca]

thank you so much !
I will put some serious attention to the cocoa combination and give it a view intense tries !

 

[JosBoaz]

i thought that was my day to go

 

[JosBoaz]

i decided to take 10g rue today after being on 4-5g for a while, normally it will be very smooth with barely any side effects (because i was taking that amount daily for a a month or two before, and it seems that it caused some permatolerance) but today i was absolutely demolished lol, like holy shit i can't remember when i was the last time i was this high on rue, i was in bed for hours the whole time laying on my back unable to move, i could barely see what's infront me from the chaos in my vision field

Any thoughts about these species of harmala, and how does it compared to your chewing method?

 

[harmala_afficianado]

Any thoughts about these species of harmala, and how does it compared to your chewing method?

The past few days/weeks i've been using both st johns wort and ashwagandha nightly for upregulating 5ht2a, since i was tripping very often and my tolerance became very high, after about a week on both st johns wort and ashwagandha, my tolerance to rue was much lower, hence why the 10g trip i talked about was completely unexpected, now 5g can be too strong when i could take 10-12g before and run just fine.

I've bought alot of different batches of seeds, from different places, here in my country they are all very similar if not the same, there is not much difference between diff batches.

The trip i had on 10g was with rue powder, compared to chewing the seeds, it lacks something, but idk how to describe it, chewing the seeds can feel more like a heavy ego death type trip, don't get me wrong with powder you can get to the same level, but with chewing it feels more mysitical, more "serious" and you feel the spirits presence more.

The video you sent is very interesting, i'll watch the second half of the vid later today.

Edit: i don't recommend combining st johns wort with rue, potentially dangerous for alot of people

"Do not replicate stated dosages unless you are highly experienced, start always low and do proper research, start with 1g, thank you very much"

 

[JosBoaz]

The past few days/weeks i've been using both st johns wort and ashwagandha nightly for upregulating 5ht2a, since i was tripping very often and my tolerance became very high, after about a week on both st johns wort and ashwagandha, my tolerance to rue was much lower, hence why the 10g trip i talked about was completely unexpected, now 5g can be too strong when i could take 10-12g before and run just fine.

I've bought alot of different batches of seeds, from different places, here in my country they are all very similar if not the same, there is not much difference between diff batches.

The trip i had on 10g was with rue powder, compared to chewing the seeds, it lacks something, but idk how to describe it, chewing the seeds can feel more like a heavy ego death type trip, don't get me wrong with powder you can get to the same level, but with chewing it feels more mysitical, more "serious" and you feel the spirits presence more.

The video you sent is very interesting, i'll watch the second half of the vid later today.

Bro, add edit to your post: "Do not replicate stated dosages unless you are highly experienced, start always low and do proper research, start with 1g, thank you very much"

 

[JosBoaz]

chewing it feels more mysitical, more "serious" and you feel the spirits presence more.

Interesting tidbit, I tried chewing 2 weeks ago, I think it was 1 or 2g, but I had an automatic vomit reaction after some minutes, maybe I need to adjust to it. I had swallowed raw harmala powder in the past with not so much of an issue, but lately, since I started to activate the roohaniya of the plants, I get automatic vomiting reflexes when I try to swallow raw powder or, in this case, chew raw powder.

As far as I can tell, you have not tried DMT yet, so probably hard to give a definitive answer too, but do you think that chewing harmala seeds gives the same type of experience that is highlighted in the video I linked?

 

[harmala_afficianado]

I tried chewing 2 weeks ago, I think it was 1 or 2g, but I had an automatic vomit reaction after some minutes, maybe I need to adjust to it. I had swallowed raw harmala powder in the past with not so much of an issue, but lately, since I started to activate the roohaniya of the plants, I get automatic vomiting reflexes when I try to swallow raw powder or, in this case, chew raw powder.

The only way to prevent that ime are 1. Force yourself to eat it everyday, even if very small amounts, but you have to eat it everyday, and 2. Try your best each time to love the taste, convince yourself you like it, i eventually started appreciating the taste by recognizing why it tastes that way and really "feeling" the taste.

As far as I can tell, you have not tried DMT yet, so probably hard to give a definitive answer too, but do you think that chewing harmala seeds gives the same type of experience that is highlighted in the video I linked?

I never tried DMT, but rue alone for sure can give you an ayahuasca like trip from eating alot of seeds, it's just at these levels most people become delirous because they get poisoned, if your in good health and you eat well etc, you are more likely to have an experience like that, rue ime and other peoples experiences causes alot of side effects when your body is full of parasites and just unhealthy in general, and when you take it daily, you become used to those amounts because the rue has cleaned your system, it's always a good idea to eat rue daily before getting into a heavy trip, the side effects are reduced but the psychedelia increases.

I have tried mushrooms+rue many times, and HBMG+rue, and the strongest trip i have ever had in my entire life was on rue alone, from eating wayy too many seeds throughout the whole day.

"Do not replicate stated dosages unless you are highly experienced, start always low and do proper research, start with 1g, thank you very much"