Feeling disgusted by objects in hyperspace

[Tyler_Trismegistus]

Okay so I've been having some dark and uncomfortable experiences lately and I've pinned the cause on the fact that I'm not taking care of my body. I eat poorly and don't really exercise. Before I go back to Hyperspace I'm going to change my diet and develop a yoga and running routine..... The most recent uncomfortable experience I had, I laid back after my last hit and this scary "Oh $**T" feeling came over me and I instantly saw this long necked weird entity and he generated this VERY BIZARRE object. This thing almost looked like a 4-D rubix cube that was constantly morphing and spinning. This thing was made out of some really weird things like human arms, human feet, ugly faces, and what seemed like intestines all bending at crazy impossible angles.... It started getting closer and closer to me and I did NOT like this thing at all. I got very very anxious and it made me feel absolutely disgusted. I actually was so disgusted and freaked out by this thing I ended up purging when it got up in my face. What I want to know is if any entities have shown you guys any objects or "self dribbling basketballs" that made you sick or uncomfortable?

 

[soulfood]

I think your main problem is resistance.

I've come across human entrails in DMT on more than one occasion. In that headspace I almost feel it as sensual contact as it's no less a part of what we are than the more desirable parts. I'm usually quite tactile of myself when under the influence so if I see guts, I grab my guts and give them a little squeeze.

Do you smile after you inhale? That helps me lots.

All that aside, taking better care of your body as you mentioned generally makes you better prepared for these types of things. Afterall the body and the mind are not entirely separate.

 

[HumbleTraveler]

Thats a great siggestion soulfood; smiling. Even regularly, smiling can actually impact you for the better. Just the act of smiling can link your current mindset up with past happy or good experiences, thus altering your mood to a happier state.

 

[RAM]

I'm not taking care of my body. I eat poorly and don't really exercise.

If you felt compelled to mention these things in your post and you feel as if they are having a significant effect on your trips, then I think it is pretty clear what you need to change! I am a very healthy person and I exercise a lot; I feel this has helped me tremendously with my trips.

Some would say, "Ohh dirty skinny hippies would never work out, always scrounging around looking to get high." While this may be indicative of the actions of some, psychs have done the opposite for me; I realize this is my only body and I must preserve it and maintain my health. It's just disgusting to be unhealthy and as I am always tempted to ask, "Is that good for my body?"

Our bodies are an inextricable part of our apparent existence and must be maintained, especially if you are feeling like your body is dragging on what should be a mental experience. So I would follow what you said you're going to do and go for it again! Please report back after you do; I'm curious if, yet pretty sure, it will have an effect.

 

[Tyler_Trismegistus]

Yeah its something I'm changing yesterday I went to the organic food store and bought lots and lots of healthy food and I started doing kundalini yoga and running again. Back in high school I was in the top ten best springboard divers and pole vaulters in new York state so I was always in great shape, ate well, was as flexible as gum by, and just overall felt great. I'm really going toput iin the effort to get back there

 

[○]

some of my own things, ime, that i've learned over the years:

-exercise; that alone transforms you on so many levels, typically for the better.

-healthy food - locally grown produce, locally raised meat. lots of water. the occasional couple glasses of juice from the juicer. even just cleaning up your diet to a reasonable degree and not going full throttle into buying all organic/locally grown/etc/et can do wonders.

-yoga - this has a strong cumulative effect over time - maintaining tendon flexibility, great bloodflow, great gland functioning. also has a relatively strong, cumulative effect on bringing the every day chatter of the mind to a minimal which ime translates into your everyday activities.

-pranayama/breathwork - alernate nostril breathing, learning to focus on the breath and slow to the amount to 2-3/minute, very powerful/beneficial, especially when combined with meditation/yoga - especially yoga.

-meditation - just simple breath meditation, eyes closed, hour a day, or even every other day, affords leaps and bounds in terms of learning to directly embrace and pay no mind to any and all thoughts that come up in your day to day. this takes time, but out of all these departments, meditation has afforded me deep application with the DMT experience.


All these things are just a few categories, but it sounds like your doing well as of now. I consider the DMT experience a jumping off point, every time we imbibe, we're jumping off from that specific point in our lives; in our evolution, on every level - from physical health and wellbeing to mental, spiritual, etc. It's a direct mirror to the deepest recesses of Self, which is inextricably linked/enmeshed with phenomenal world.

 

[AcaciaConfusedYah]

Some would say, "Ohh dirty skinny hippies would never work out, always scrounging around looking to get high."

If anyone says that, I usually find something else to do with my time than entertain that kind of bullshit.... like scrounge around and look for something that will get me high... or some other stereotypical things that hippies do. (What are those things anyways?)



Hehe. All the above recommendations are really good. Being good to the body is being good to the mind. Being mindful usually leads to healthy choices.

 

[DreaMTripper]

Disgust is something we develop as we age. It seems, like others have said that you may have had a light shone on your state of physical health.
I had a similar experience recently and have acted on it so will see what happens when I 'go back in' soon.

 

[Pile of cats]

Your experience really reminds me of an experience I had a while back, I'll try and describe it, maybe we ended up somewhere similar.

I smoked 2 bowls of 0.1g 1:1 changa one after the other. For some reason after hitting the first I just impulsively decided to smoke another (wasn't smart) and I was instantly gone into complete blackness with no awareness of my usual self or body and this circular shape started coming from the distance and it became more detailed and I started seeing things like womans legs unfolding themselves to reveal a deeper layer into this.. thing and at first I was just intrigued it was like I was being lured in because there was a point where it just turned into disgust at this thing but it was too late and this thing just got closer and closer and merged with my soul and whispered taunts and ridiculed me from within my own head and I felt violated by what it was doing. I opened my eyes as soon as I realised I could, I felt so relieved to be back but shaken to the core by what just happened.

I think I took a 3 month break after that and when I finally came back to smoking I had an absolutely amazing session. It was simply time for me to take everything I'd learned so far and apply it so I could come back to that world with a clear mind and start a new phase of learning

 

[Sky Motion]

I think your main problem is resistance.

I've come across human entrails in DMT on more than one occasion. In that headspace I almost feel it as sensual contact as it's no less a part of what we are than the more desirable parts. I'm usually quite tactile of myself when under the influence so if I see guts, I grab my guts and give them a little squeeze.

Do you smile after you inhale? That helps me lots.

All that aside, taking better care of your body as you mentioned generally makes you better prepared for these types of things. Afterall the body and the mind are not entirely separate.

He describes a truly weird and disgusting object and you think the main problem is resistance? I'd resist that shit too.

 

[Tyler_Trismegistus]

Your experience really reminds me of an experience I had a while back, I'll try and describe it, maybe we ended up somewhere similar.

I smoked 2 bowls of 0.1g 1:1 changa one after the other. For some reason after hitting the first I just impulsively decided to smoke another (wasn't smart) and I was instantly gone into complete blackness with no awareness of my usual self or body and this circular shape started coming from the distance and it became more detailed and I started seeing things like womans legs unfolding themselves to reveal a deeper layer into this.. thing and at first I was just intrigued it was like I was being lured in because there was a point where it just turned into disgust at this thing but it was too late and this thing just got closer and closer and merged with my soul and whispered taunts and ridiculed me from within my own head and I felt violated by what it was doing. I opened my eyes as soon as I realised I could, I felt so relieved to be back but shaken to the core by what just happened.

I think I took a 3 month break after that and when I finally came back to smoking I had an absolutely amazing session. It was simply time for me to take everything I'd learned so far and apply it so I could come back to that world with a clear mind and start a new phase of learning

YEA! that's incredibly similar to what happened. At first I was intrigued by the complexity of the object when it was far away but the closer it got it just became so disgusting and instilled the most intense feeling of disgust and dread I've ever had lol. I felt horribly violated after this. Its also interesting that yours happened with Changa, because mine also involved harmalas, but instead of smoked it was oral rue tea.

 

[HippingTrippY]

"Neither accept nor regect anything" To me hyperspace can sometimes feel like what is described in Buddhist literature ala "The Bardos"



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