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Few questions on Cybs hybrid ATB salt tek

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lloydy2013

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SWIM just wanted to double check a couple things on Cybs hybrid ATB salt tek since SWIM tried his first extraction a couple days ago and failed just wanted to check a few things before trying again.
Link to tek being used:

1) There is no defatting step in this guide would SWIM get any benefits from defatting as an extra step included after the salting and before the basifying ? also if there would be any benefit how much naptha should SWIM use each time to defat ?

2) SWIM just wanted to check a few things about step 6 (adding the non-polar solvent)
here is step 6 copy and pasted:

Measure out 50ml of naphtha (lighter fluid) and pour into the bottle.
Lightly shake and roll the mixture in a 'figure of 8' fashion (or like peddling a bike) for 20-30 seconds.(The idea is for the naphtha to 'touch' every part of the base mix)
Unscrew the cap momentarily to release any pressure build-up then tighten again.
Place back in a heat bath. (Heated pulls draw more product)
Leave for a while until the naphtha separates again. (edit: This has been reported to take an hour or so the first time (occasionally))
REPEAT THIS four times (shake/separate) to thoroughly mix them together. This should take around 45 mins.

SWIM wondered where it says REPEAT THIS FOUR TIMES , does this mean adding an extra 50ml of naptha each time, ending with 200ml of naptha for the pulls ? or does this mean exactly what it says just shake and leave to separate four times? SWIM thought 50ml of naptha was a very small amount to put into the roasting dish 200ml sounded more right to him?

3) SWIM wondered when pulling instead of doing 3 pulls and using 3 roasting dishes, couldn't 3 pulls all be put into the same roasting dish to freeze?
SWIM also wanted to check if mason jars would be fine to use instead of roasting dishes, and if so how would go about scraping the crystals out?

SWIM wanted to say a big thank you in advance for anyone who gets the time to read this and reply and couldn't express enough how grateful would be and how HUGE of a help would be
 
Hendrix87 said:
Hi there, May i ask why it's recommended to do hot but not boiling hot heat baths ??

I'm not sure exactly of the science behind this part of the tek, But apparently some people prefer doing cold pulls, Some do luke warm heat baths, Some do very hot heat baths. Would boiling a pot of water and turning it off and placing the main mixing bottle inside be a bad thing ??

And let's just say hypothetically someone did use boiling hot water for the solvent heat bath stage, Why would this be a problem ??

Very hot fluids were tested in the early days and produced undesirable consequences (Very Oily/Gooey extract and on a couple of occasions...'The Dreaded Jello Blobs' )
ALSO Boiling Solvent (if it explodes/ignites) is Very Very Nasty ... So DON'T DO IT .....

Warm baths (40-50C) (Or just run the Hot tap) will drag out as much product as possible, including some yellowing agents and possibly some NMT (bark dependant) ...
Warm baths ensure that ALL the product (or as much as possible) gets extracted and then clean up can be done later (reX or miniA/B)
BUT in my opinion cleanup is unnecessary as you are going to Set it on Fire / Vaporize it anyhow.

If you do 'Cold' fluid extractions...your product will generally turn out Clean and White ... but you may lose a little yield (caught up in the other compounds..not much)


Clean Xtals looks good for the 'Baggie Market' and is not what we are all about round here...so extract it and Smoalk it (no matter what it looks like)
 
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