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Filtering help

Would an aeropress coffee maker be of any use filtering the plant material out of the acid solution? Asking as I already own one.

I would be using vinegar most likely.

'The AeroPress Original and XL coffee maker chamber and plunger are made out of polypropylene (except for the food-grade silicone seal on the plunger).

All materials used in AeroPress coffee makers are free of BPA and phthalates'


If I had to buy a something has anyone tried the manual pumps made for bleeding car brakes?
 
An Aeropress filter used this way clogged very rapidly as tannin precipitated from the brew as it cooled.

Strain out the bark (t-shirt?) while boiling hot and leave the tannins to precipitate in the fridge over the weekend, then decant. If a small amount of tannin precipitate comes over, it may have become consolidated enough to filter out more easily - and at least it won't be precipitating directly within the pores of the filter.
 
I've had a look on eBay and I've come across these vacuum filter sets and also these brake bleeding kits and was wondering if they would work well as a manual vacuum pump?

Am I better of with a Buchner funnel and filter paper instead of the sintered glass filter?
 

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i can confirm they do work. i cant see your photos but ill assume its a filter-paper accepting buchner, and a vacuum hand pump.
DO NOT USE SINTERED GLASS
it will clog, forever, its a pain in the ass to destroy organics in the frit, and any calcium sulfate, or silicates that go in there, such as what some tap water precipitates out, those are more chemically inert than the glass. Filter paper on sintered glass also wont work well. you wont get a perfect seal against the frit and paper so some stuff will suck through around it and the edges will clog and permanently contaminate anything subsequently filtered through. this may or may not matter but, fritted glass funnels are not meant for these sorts of organic filtrations.

personally i use a water-aspirator, you push water through using garden hose, and it will pull a vacuum so strong you can boil water at like 30C if your water pressure is high enough. just gotta be careful with strong acid fumes, the cheap $15 aspirators are made of aluminum.
I have 2 different hand pumps, both can reach up to -650mmHg, i think the max vacuum is -720mmHg, if im wrong, its just, like almost 90% to absolute vacuum. so basically, yeah, the hand pump will do anything you want to do, make sure you get one with a vacuum dial.

A trick i have applied for devastatingly fine filter-clogging substances is to thermal-cycle them a little bit, i forget which, perhaps some kind of hydroxide or oxalate, but the first precipitate is fine and mere milligrams out of the 250-400g to be filtered would clog the filter. heating to whatever temp it begins to dissolve, then stopping and chilling, and cycling a few times, and in the case of one, just boiling it for a while assuming it cant all dissolve, results in crystals forming, prefferentially on existing precipitate. when the crystals grow they cannot pack together as dense, and form sediment porous enough to vacuum filter. tannins may not be able to be filtered like this since my vacuum filtered tannin-cakes tend to resemble soft chocolate, however, larger crystals of the waxxy tanins will still settle much quicker, if fine enough and fluffy enough its possibly they might not settle properly at all.

The use of celite, powdered cellulose, sand, and combinations therof also greatly assist vacuum filtration. Celite is the main one though. diatomaceous earth is the raw product celite is made from after being acid washed and baked, dont buy diatomaceous earth unless its specifically made/sold for filtration purposes, until processed it also clogs filter paper like a mofo.


If you have the means to safely do so, try a long column centrifuge. literally anything that can smoothely spin around without sloshing and has as great a fluid height as possible, will quickly cause things to settle for high-speed decanting. the addition of sand or porous media where your tannins will be pushed into and wont easily flow out of, may or may not help.


lastly, there is some acuminata no-goo teks, or other teks, look into them, there are techniques for keeping tannins in the bark. they amount to gentle ph control, use of salts, and i think some specific treatment when producing a concentrated acid soup.
 
Thanks for your reply. I thought the sintered glass might be a pain but thought I'd ask as I see then some together with the flask as a set.

I'm in a flat and my tap unfortunately wouldn't be able to connect an aspirator to it.

I'll have a search for the no goo teks.
 
Thanks for your reply. I thought the sintered glass might be a pain but thought I'd ask as I see then some together with the flask as a set.

I'm in a flat and my tap unfortunately wouldn't be able to connect an aspirator to it.

I'll have a search for the no goo teks.
check what particle size the sintered glass is, if its like G1 or G2, thats the consistency of packed beach sand and shouldnt clog, or filter anything fine really without paper or extra filter powder on top. I got one in G2 i think, its absolutely useless as a filter, works fine for catching crystals though. if you cant get a vacuum buchner but the sintered one you do get is no greater than G2, you should be able to make it work. G3 though 100% will permaclog right away without paper, and will be slowly poisoned by anything that precipitates in the frit.

Also note: you dont need ground glass vacuum filtration. you can also get the much easier to acquire ordinary filter and flasks, that interface using rubber stoppers. you can buy sets of graduated stopper-rings for pretty cheap, you just pull out the size you want. or buy a silicone stopper and poke a hole in it yourself. cheap vevor ground glass sets dont always seamlessly interlock, but you generally dont want to grease your joints either in this situation with something that might dissolve into the filtrate, in the event you need high-vacuum, so, just be open to either kind of set, not just the ground glass type
 
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