Finally broke through but not sure if I enjoyed it?

[dreamc4tcher]

I finally broke through, I had been trying different methods of smoking, bulb, freebase pipe and bong... None really worked, I got body buzz but that's about it, although I did get some good visuals from the bong. So I decided to make my own Machine, worked a treat. I failed at cracking a clean small hole in at the bottom, so I just used a straw and taped around it. I put about 50mg, maybe a little more. I used the same copper scrub as my friend used before me, so it still may of had some residue on it. Got the torch lighter and sucked for a good 3 or 4 tokes until I'd forgotten how to exhale. All of a sudden these rush of colours came at me all over all entwining, I remember seeing a lot of visuals and it was very intense... like too intense. Everything was rushing before my eyes, I couldn't even think. My body was very tensed and my friends that watched over me while I was tripping said I looked very uncomfortable. I remember that it didn't matter if I had my eyes closed or open because it made no difference and it was almost I had lost control over my eyes so it didn't matter. I also remember not enjoying it that much during it because it was so intense and there was so much going on for so long even though the trip only lasted 5/6 minutes. I remember during this trip feeling tense and almost like it felt like a bad trip. So I kept reassuring myself that I was fine and I kept trying to calm myself.

The annoying thing is I couldn't even grasp my visions because they went too quick to even think about them, maybe I did too much?

 

[3rdI]

50mg efficiently vaped is quite a hefty dose.

Now you have found a method of vaping that works for you, presuming you wish to continue, I advise you work your way up from 15mg until you find your sweet spot.

it will get less intense but it will also become more intense, but that is the nature of the beast.

 

[dreamc4tcher]

it will get less intense but it will also become more intense, but that is the nature of the beast.

So, if I vaporize less it will be a more successful trip? And less intense but at the same time more?

Thanks for the reply by the way.

 

[Metanoia]

You just have to find your 'sweet spot'. I mean in terms of dosage. Also, it can take some time to get acquainted with the experience, so to speak. You'll probably never get completely used to it, it's a very strange and wild ride.

 

[null24]

It will get easier, familiar even.
Remember, you don't take the spice, it takes you.:thumb_up:

 

[dreamc4tcher]

Okay, next mission is to try find the sweet spot for my perfect trip.

Thank you, I don't really like the phrase DMT finds you, the trip finds you. It took me some effort in trying to get hold of the spice and trying to vaporize it for a good trip... I don't believe fiat or some profound intelligence you think DMT has had anything to do with it.

I was also thinking, I smoke a lot of weed like everyday recently... Been abusing Mary Jane a bit more than I should do, do you thinking stopping smoking will enhance the experience in anyway?

 

[alert]

I hate to be that guy, but where did you get the idea everyone enjoys DMT? It can be the most ecstatic or the most terrifying experience ever. You have to be willing to take the bad with the good (although expect neither) to gain any "knowledge" from this molecule imo. I put "knowledge" in quotes because if anything DMT has left me with innumerable questions and hardly any answers.

If you experiences are anything like mine, there will be at least one or two where you are positive you didn't enjoy it. Despite that, I find the most difficult trips (generally high dose) are the most valuable in the long wrong. Even though they may make you feel like you broke the universe at the time, once you have time to integrate these experiences I find valuable insight can be gained (but not necessarily knowledge)

Just my $.02

 

[Amygdala]

You could always try changa. I had a similar few initial experiences with fb in which the speed and intensity were just unpleasant... i tried adding extracted harmalas to my mix, and fell in love.

It isn't for everybody, though my experiences with changa have been incredible... the intensity is certainly still there, but it has been more 'manageable' in the sense that the experience is slowed enough to be navigable and for me, intensely enjoyable. It can still be a rocky ride, but I find it much easier to ease into the experience and let go.

 

[Metanoia]

I was also thinking, I smoke a lot of weed like everyday recently... Been abusing Mary Jane a bit more than I should do, do you thinking stopping smoking will enhance the experience in anyway?

Definitely, IMO. I won't say that using Cannabis responsibly is detrimental to the DMT experience, but if you're abusing it, certainly. Try stopping for a few weeks and see how that effects how you experience the spice.

You could always try changa. I had a similar few initial experiences with fb in which the speed and intensity were just unpleasant... i tried adding extracted harmalas to my mix, and fell in love.

It isn't for everybody, though my experiences with changa have been incredible... the intensity is certainly still there, but it has been more 'manageable' in the sense that the experience is slowed enough to be navigable and for me, intensely enjoyable. It can still be a rocky ride, but I find it much easier to ease into the experience and let go.

This is definitely true. I didn't think harmalas would make too much of a difference, other than intensifying the experience and making it last longer. But it really does slow things down and make it more manageable. Before I tried it I thought it would have the opposite effect, make it even faster but last longer. I didn't want that in the least But it really does make a difference if you're feeling it's too intense and overwhelming. I don't even bother with vaping crystals anymore.

Changa ftw :thumb_up:

 

[dreamc4tcher]

I have enjoyed using DMT previously before breaking through, I got good body buzzes and a couple visuals and would often feel very amazed afterwards.

I'm going to try again, would of tried tonight but my torch lighter's broke on me... Only had it for a couple weeks. I'm going to keep the dose around 25mg, I think.

Ohhhh and I would love to use Changa but unfortunately it's not as accessible to me as the pure stuff but hopefully it'll come my way once I've finished with this batch.

 

[DMTree]

I believe that the DMT experience transcends words like "enjoyment."
Enjoying something is simply your egos reaction to an experience, but when faced with an experience in which ego is completely dissolved it is quite difficult to rely on it (ego) to provide you with an accurate word to describe this reaction.

If anything, you enjoyed the process of seeking out the information to successfully conduct your own extraction and make available to yourself a truly wondrous vessel to the other side, so to speak.
Find enjoyment in what you can and let the DMT do what it will, you really have no other choice haha. :d

Good luck in your future voyages, though. Despite being so alien in nature, it will begin to become more familiar and even slightly more comfortable.

On the flip side, you can always give DMT a break if you need to. It will be waiting for you lol.

Peace!