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Oneiroi

Oneiroi

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I just finished preparing my first DMT electric sheep enhanced leaf and tried out DMT for the first time. My first trip was not as amazing as I had expected and simply manifested in simple close eye visuals of colored shapes.

My second try, a few hours later, was more interesting. Unfortunately, I had trouble hitting the bowl. I wasn't able to rip the whole bowl in one go, so I kept on hitting it, holding each hit for 30 seconds. On my fourth hit, I launched into my trip. Everything around me started to get wavy, like the visuals I see on shrooms. I set the bong, turned off the light, and closed my eyes. I saw dull purple, blue, and green moving repeating shapes fill my vision, and I felt like I was seeing more than 180 degrees, as if my field of view had expanded. They were geometric line shapes that had a fractal quality to them. The shapes I saw were more defined than on my first trip. However, I noticed there was very little change to my thinking and feeling, I felt very sober. Also I started shaking a lot, as if shivering. I did notice some audio distortions and some flanging sounds. I felt like there was no time distortion, but when I opened my eyes after I tripped, 20 minutes had passed. To me it felt like it had only been 5 minutes.

I'm wondering if I didn't get enough DMT in my doses or if this kind of trip is usual for this dosage. I dosed what I guessed to be approximately 25-30 mg of DMT. I wasn't sure exactly how much I had used because I used a decigram not milligram scale when making my enhanced leaf. The closed eye visuals I saw were about as strong as the ones I see on shroom or acid trips when on the peak of about 3/4 eighth shrooms or 2 tabs acid. I had always expected DMT to be one of those drugs to really knock me out of my mind, but I didn't really experience anything too strong. My salvia trip on 15x was a magnitude stronger than my DMT trip.
 
Oneiroi said:
I just finished preparing my first DMT electric sheep enhanced leaf and tried out DMT for the first time. My first trip was not as amazing as I had expected and simply manifested in simple close eye visuals of colored shapes.

My second try, a few hours later, was more interesting. Unfortunately, I had trouble hitting the bowl. I wasn't able to rip the whole bowl in one go, so I kept on hitting it, holding each hit for 30 seconds. On my fourth hit, I launched into my trip. Everything around me started to get wavy, like the visuals I see on shrooms. I set the bong, turned off the light, and closed my eyes. I saw dull purple, blue, and green moving repeating shapes fill my vision, and I felt like I was seeing more than 180 degrees, as if my field of view had expanded. They were geometric line shapes that had a fractal quality to them. The shapes I saw were more defined than on my first trip. However, I noticed there was very little change to my thinking and feeling, I felt very sober. Also I started shaking a lot, as if shivering. I did notice some audio distortions and some flanging sounds. I felt like there was no time distortion, but when I opened my eyes after I tripped, 20 minutes had passed. To me it felt like it had only been 5 minutes.

I'm wondering if I didn't get enough DMT in my doses or if this kind of trip is usual for this dosage. I dosed what I guessed to be approximately 25-30 mg of DMT. I wasn't sure exactly how much I had used because I used a decigram not milligram scale when making my enhanced leaf. The closed eye visuals I saw were about as strong as the ones I see on shroom or acid trips when on the peak of about 3/4 eighth shrooms or 2 tabs acid. I had always expected DMT to be one of those drugs to really knock me out of my mind, but I didn't really experience anything too strong. My salvia trip on 15x was a magnitude stronger than my DMT trip.
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Ok, I'll address several points here one at a time. Thinking and feeling are not always altered by a DMT experience. DMT is completely unpredictable, and you never know what aspects will or won't be present in a trip. This time your thinking and feeling wasn't really altered too much. Had you repeated the same method again afterward, for all you know you could have been feeling extremely weird and alien with other entities thoughts in place of your own.

Shaking is also normal. That's happened to me a bunch. It helps to travel with a blanket nearby because DMT is highly likely to affect your perceived temperature. Sometimes it's just an abundance of energy. Either way, it shouldn't be something to worry about too much.

I know others are gonna tell you this anyway, so let me be the first to say you should go out and buy a scale that reads to at least the .XX so you can know that .01g is 10mg for example. If you really did smoke 25-30mg and you did everything right, you could have gone significantly further out. You say that your salvia trip with like 15x stronger than your DMT, and that seems kind of normal to me. Salvia can have a sheer power to it, and it's generally easier to smoke than DMT for beginners. Make sure you're holding your hits in for as long as possible, and keep on trying. It's also possible that you made your enhanced leaf weaker than you may have thought it was going to be on the basis that I've made electric sheep in the past, and it didn't come out quite like I was intending and other times I've made electric sheep, it was the best ever, so practice at infusion makes perfect. You may also want to consider getting some caapi leaf to throw in the mix as well to make changa, and with the caapi, you should find yourself able to get significantly further for longer.
 
I appreciate the advice Global. I was a little bit worried about the shaking but its reassuring to hear that others get this as well. Yeah I'm considering buying a milligram scale for future extractions. The one I'm using is terrible and sometimes reads weights of .2 as .0, so I had to do some guesswork and a lot of reweighing to figure out how much material I was dealing with. It was very inaccurate and so that could definitely have seen a problem. Also I find that I am unable to smoke a whole bowl of the leaf in one go. Would it be better to pack like 3-4 minibowls and smoke each in one hit?

I also do plan on trying to make changa with caapi in the future, but for my first extraction and DMT experience I wanted to try the spice by itself to get an understanding of what the drug is like on its own. Caapi sounds great and I'll make it with it my next extraction.

Anyways I really enjoyed my DMT experiences, and I'll keep practicing on my technique. I've been getting a glimpse of the potential of DMT, now I just need to work on getting there.
 
Why are you unable to finish the whole bowl? Do you lose coordination? Are you just no longer there before you can finish? Or do you just feel it getting to be too much for you? If you're finding your experiences unsatisfying, then I would advise you to do your best on finishing the whole bowl, if at all possible. Even if things seem to already be getting intense, if they end up unsatisfying then it's clear that the onset may be a bit more frightening than the trip itself, so you'll need to push through this initial panic to get to where you're looking to go.
 
No I finish the whole bowl but it takes me about 4 breathes to do that (I don't smoke often so my lungs are untrained). Also, I'm holding each hit for about half a minute, so it takes me quite a while to finish it (like 2-3 minutes). And while I'm clearing the chamber between hits, the leaf is still burning a little. Also I am relighting between hits, which I hear is bad for the spice. Does it matter that I'm not finishing the bowl in one single hit? It seems very difficult for me, there is too much smoke.
 
Oneiroi said:
No I finish the whole bowl but it takes me about 4 breathes to do that (I don't smoke often so my lungs are untrained). Also, I'm holding each hit for about half a minute, so it takes me quite a while to finish it (like 2-3 minutes). And while I'm clearing the chamber between hits, the leaf is still burning a little. Also I am relighting between hits, which I hear is bad for the spice. Does it matter that I'm not finishing the bowl in one single hit? It seems very difficult for me, there is too much smoke.
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If you properly inhale 30mg of spice there is no way you can even get to another hit nor you can smoke 2-3 minutes.

1.you need proper scale .001 g
2.you need to improve smoking technique
3.maybe you need better hardware too :)
 
You also might want to consider infusing more DMT onto less leaf so that you only need half a bowl to get twice as far.
 
^ Good idea! I erred on the side of using slightly more leaf than DMT in my infusion. Next time I'll do the opposite. :)
 
:p OK i have to concur with infinite being here on several points...

Each DMT trip is essentially different, it can be effected by mood, heat, music and just general well being. I've had several trips now but last nights, about an hour before I went to to friends for dinner, well, blew my head apart!!

Here's how it went;

I started as usual, I have a glass pipe that has a bowl with a stainless gauze. I load up te bowl half full with cigarette ash, its takes the taste away and stops the room smelling foul. Then approx 40mg DMT (home made) then lastly cover this with another nice layer of ash.

I then have an old litre water bottle in which i have a 9.5mm hole near the top, into this goes a rubber 10mm pipe, right to the bottom of the bottle. I then load the bottle with 8-10 chunks of ice. Fill with water so that there is still a 100mm gap at the top. Join the pipe with the pipe and sit back.

I have reclining sofa, which i swing out and get ready. I light heat the bowl until the DMT is just burning red, not to much otherwise yo set light to it.
I take three tokes, now the last toke, the third one is the key.... because you will feel like you've done enough after the second, gotta take the third.

I sit back and IMMEDIATELY, I'm being deconstructed, by body just breaks apart like a kit car and I become just energy, I'm surrounded by energy. TM desribes them as entities but I find it impossible to describe what I'm seeing, bouncing energy, different colours, they are moving in and out of my energy, we are one but somehow not. They are speaking to me, DO YOU SEE KNOW, DO YOU SEE.... I give into them, let them teach me.....YOU HAVE A CHOICE, THIS LIFE IS TEMPORARY, THIS IS WHAT IS WAITING, GO BACK DO GOOD, CONTROL YOUR EGO, DO GOOD..... DO YO SEE NOW, DO YOU SEE??

I vidoed the whole trip, I remember as it hit thinking, oh fuck, you've really done it know, I tried to get up, but couldn't i didn't want to be there it was SO intense.... Someone describing teir trip said we are like a USB stick, when we get plugged into 'the source' we try and bring back as much info as we can but we have a limit. I think this limit will increase with each trip but its up to 'the source' what they give you...

I relax enjoy the trip, it becomes less edgy, maybe my choice of music, I'm not sure. Suddenly I GET IT, everything is just energy, however there is something that controls it, its vast, inexplicable, but its very very real..

I'm back now, looking at the room, colours are indesribably intense, I look at the bong, I look at the camera, I laugh to myself, I was recording, what exactly? A bloke comatose on a couch....lol

I remain seated, the visuals are subsiding now, but I'm in a blue transclucent cocoon, I don't want to go back, to 'reality', I want to stay here, its safe...... I speak, WE HAVE A CHOICE, WE ALL HAVE A CHOICE... that's it....what are we going to choose??

When I replay the video you can see me trying to get up as i described above, but I'm not going anywhere.. ;)

It was epic, although I feel like I was royally castigated, for being a nuisance.... but I'm learning. Next time I'm going to pray before I go in, ask to be forgiven for me impudence, I don't know why just feel like its something I have to do.

Take care all.
 
^^ Sounds awesome man! Looks like you had a really strong experience. I'm looking forward to going that far out soon. :)

I did another DMT trip yesterday and I have to say that DMT is quickly becoming one of my favorite drugs (may replace LSD soon :D). I love the intensity of it and how it comes on and goes away so quickly. I get this amazing feeling of energy flowing through me whenever I've tripped. Also, when I close my eyes I feel as if I fall into a trance state, where my body doesn't exist and I'm just experiencing psychedelic pattern visuals. Unfortunately I'm nearing the end of my first batch and I still have yet to travel very deep into the DMT world. I'll probably go for broke on my next try and just keep hitting bowls until I can't hit it anymore.
 
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