First experiences with Nutmeg

[CircuitPenguin]

Hello, there. While i get ready for getting the jurema cwe going, i need help with getting that nutmeg tincture right. I'm not sure i misunderstood something or not, but once the alcohol gets mixed with the powdered nutmeg, that's it, it's good to go, or do i have to add any other ingredient? I'm not sure i misunderstood anything or not.

The original thread on nutmeg tincture:

Nutmeg tincture

I've always loved and had good moments Cataphracts with nutmeg. Often I think nobody is able to go so far, and especially with 2-3gr Meggy my mind and body is flipped, often feel that they are music, are eternal, ethereal, approaching some moments I had with the seeds of morning glory, but...

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[Brennendes Wasser]

Myristicin (the main active ingredient) is soluble in ethanol just as it is, so you dont need to add anything more. :thumb_up:

Then do a report on the effects, I read very mixed reports on nutmeg . Curious if it is worth a shot just for curiousitys sake.

 

[CircuitPenguin]

But how long should I keep nutmeg soaked? The alcohol to be used, should it be a drinkable alcohol, like evergrain, or should I use IPA? The instructions really aren't clear, and I can't afford to get it wrong.

 

[Brennendes Wasser]

Sounds definetly like you swallow the whole mixture - possibly diluted with other more good-tasting stuff. So definetly go with evergrain instead of IPA. Also soaking it longer can't hurt. So just grind the nuts into fine powder - if not already bought like that - and just leave it in there for 2 days.

 

[downwardsfromzero]

I replied in the other thread, but will add this:

I have always strained out or decanted away from the powder. It would be wise use small amounts of the tincture rather than necking a whole ounce's worth of nutmeg, along with an ounce of everclear, all in one go. A teaspoonful in a cup of milky coffee produces a nice euphoria.

Obligatory link to everything else nutmeggy:

Nutmeg deliriant effect

What should be the dosage to get a little bit of the deliriant effect? I never really got it... And i really want to experience this ;)

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[CircuitPenguin]

The crockpot has arrived, and so has monster vodka, or everclear. I've bought 6 kernels of nutmeg.
I think I'll try doing what I assume oilman has done in the "nutmeg components soluble in water" or something similar, and extract the components using milk. The fact that the nutmeg-milk combo does produce a 30+ hours high also got it chosen as extraction method.

Any tips? The straining part in particular sounds like it's very troublesome, given that i think the milk's fat will probably get caught in the strainer's mesh.

So, any extra info will be appreciated.

 

[CircuitPenguin]

So, it's been about 30 minutos since I've started drinking the hot nutmeg milk. Straining was easy, ran the milk through a sieve, but as predicted, most of the milk's fat remained behind the mesh along with the ground nutmeg... There's a description of how to get nutmeg mixed with milk in a nutmeg tea recipe found on erowid ( Erowid Nutmeg Vault : Nutmeg Tea Recipe ), but the recipe definetly states that the so-called "nutmeg mush" must be taken ALONG with the milk rather than getting removed, but I hope this proves false.

I'm keeping the mush, anyway. Should milk not work, I can always try running that think thru everclear.

In spite of it all... Well, after looking for information on dosages, 20g wasn't so uncommon, so I took all six dried seeds I had and threw them down the milk; the seeds were about 3g each, so we're talking about 18g.

The first results are strange. I both feel sorta getting inflated inside my own body, as though my body had become a huge baloon, and I'm feeling sleepy, but wasn't this supposed to only hit me in like hours? I mean, sure, I do feel the effects of coffee instantaneously when I drink it, which is completely different from what's said that the gastric Route of Administration takes 30 minutes do deliver anything...

So. well, that's it. I'm feeling somewhat dizzy and... Wrong, somehow... Well, should the worst come to happen and the attempt flops, at least the milk didn't taste as bad as it's been said. My breath is tasting like cheap elevator perfume, though...

 

[potnoble]

Hi you brave Penguin

Hope this turns out to be a pleasant experience for you. :thumb_up:

 

[CircuitPenguin]

So, my attempts in doing a nutmeg milk extraction were something of a failure, while drinking the milk sorta made me feel intensely euphoric (i don't recall ever feeling so euphoric, even with other drugs), that's it, nothing more. It lasted about 4 hours, sorta drove me into bed, and when i woke up 2 hours later it was gone. I can't help but wonder if gulping down the mush mixed with the fatty portion of milk would have driven me to heaven or not.

It's been about 20 minutes since i've started drinking a nutmeg tincture (1 part nutmeg, 4 parts everclear), which i've diluted in milk, somewhat, adding 4 parts of milk to the 4 parts of nutmeg alcohol extract. Simply put, i'm somewhat drunk, so I wonder what else will happen.

The extract was created through adding 6 parts everclear to 1,5 parts nutmeg, measured in a glass, kept in a mason jar in the dark from tuesday to right now. There's some leftover, but... Holy fuck, i just recalled why i stopped drinking. I haven't even drank the entire portion down...

I think i should evaporate the alcohol and trying to deal with whatever's left. Do you think this might evaporate any of the active components? The fact that I'm drinking nutmeg milk vodka feels literally sickening, and my stomach is protesting any more of the mixture getting gulped down.

Well, that's it so far. Let's see if I'll hit something other than getting drunk.

edit: I've drank about 25g nutmeg, i might add. In spite of getting the extraction done, i'm still getting the infamous nutmeg burps.

edit: Never thought I'd do this, but I'm throwing away the rest of the milk/nutmeg thing, cheesus briest, this crap not only takes horribly but it's really punching in the stomach. Bizarre, but no way in hell not to reduce this.

And lawd, getting drunk on nutmeg vodka is frustrating, i expected to get high, not drunk.

 

[downwardsfromzero]

I use 1 part nutmeg to 2 parts 80% ethanol

Dose at 1 teaspoon in milky strong coffee.

Be aware of the other dietary factors that influence nutmegs action - there are many.

Egg, black pepper, tomato and coffee the following day rekindles the effect.

There is a LONG-lasting influence on the cannabinoid system, IME/IMO.

 

[swish]

I love nutmeg but the taste is difficult as I eat it whole.

I’m going to try the extraction methods and I’ll report back.

 

[Transform]

I love nutmeg but the taste is difficult as I eat it whole.

I’m going to try the extraction methods and I’ll report back.

Tincture is good, with dropwise dosage control. What other methods were you planning to try? There's only really the tea method otherwise - unless you were planning on trying the essential oil by itself?
EDIT: I see the OP tried a milk extraction. For that, I'd advise using two separate portions of very hot milk, to extract the nutmeg powder twice.

Whatever you do, make sure you drink plenty of water during the experience to ease the possible subsequent hangover.

Comprehensive cross-reference index of Nexus nutmeg posts here:

Nutmeg deliriant effect

What should be the dosage to get a little bit of the deliriant effect? I never really got it... And i really want to experience this ;)

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[swish]

Ok thank you! I’ll have a look at all that soon. I have done my homework on nutmeg just for the fyi

It would seem the whole seeds from my local supermarket are not as strong as those used in others reports fyi.

I just smashed up 120g of whole seeds and put them together in a “heat proof” esky bottle of about 1L of boiled water. I let it sit for 30mins and strained off the nutmeg seeds.

I added some honey. Tastes ten times better than eating whole seeds! Or even worse is swallowing the powdered form of it in a drink without straining!

I can feel the effects now but it’s only been a few hours. I’ll report back. I’m hopeful this will work well.

 

[swish]

So the tea I drank was definitely active but I desire a higher dose so I will need to think this through further. I have just combined it with black pepper tea and cannabis and I’m feeling good now.

I wonder if with the amount of nutmeg I use 120g would an oil tincture still be viable?

 

[swish]

The tea I made yesterday was still pulsing when I woke up. When I eat seeds it would only last 6 hours give or take. From the tea I made it was a pleasant feeling all morning which is 18+ hours since I took it. I’m making another tea now!

Eating whole seeds in the manner I was doing is taxing upon the kidneys and probably other organs. I hope this tea will help not to do this.

 

[swish]

I tried what I felt was a bigger water tea and still not much to speak for. I’m trying a milk tea today in the same manner.

Edit: Made a mess of the milk tea. I'll have to try it again some other time. I have a smaller amount from the milk tea left over but I don't know if it will work. The left over milk is significantly more bitter than water. I think it must absorb more goodies but I’m not sure. I will make a second tea with what’s left over.

Does anyone know if there are any other spices that can be consumed like this? I wonder if cinnamon would work in a milk tea. I tried some cloves once too which were active but I'm not sure if a tea would suit them.

 

[blig-blug]

cinnamon

Be careful with cinnamon. Most cinnamon sold is Cassia cinnamon, and at high doses it can cause liver damage.

What type of effects are you looking for?

 

[Transform]

@swish - You need to look at this:

[…] official nutmeg (and phenylpropene-containing herb) related index post.[…]

Links:

Nutmeg tea
Nutmeg + HBWR
Topical nutmeg oil infusion troubles
Nutmeg: navigating myristicin
nutmeg extraction
My thoughts and experience about nutmeg
Nutmeg deliriant effect
Tyramine crisis? Herrings after nutmeg
Indirect modulation of the endocannabinoid system by specific fractions of nutmeg total extract
Nutmeg tincture
Whole Nutmeg while on an MAO-A Inhibitor
Nutmeg Constituents are Mildly Soluble in Water
pepper n' nutmeg
nutmeg extract (pic)
nutmeg...
Nutmeg Infused Olive Oil
Compendium for LEGITIMATE nutmeg information
NUTMEG OIL versus elemi oil via the Triple E tech[*]
A low dose of nutmeg oil - much nicer than expected
Nutmeg - The Worst Hallucinogen Ever?
Nutmeg

Nutmeg making headlines

Fractal meatgrinder on mushrooms and nutmeg

Space Paste Thread
Space Jam (Space Paste) - A Legal Psychedelic Recipe
Space Paste Chocolates
Space Booze! Space Paste EtOH Extraction SUCCESS!
Psychedelic Hot Chocolate Recipe

Acorus calamus overdose
Sweet flag root
Acorus gramineus safety question

wormwood extract
Absinthe - recipe

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Elemi Booster?
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Elemi X and Pharma
69ron's Triple E elemi tek question
NUTMEG OIL versus elemi oil via the Triple E tech
69Ron's "Triple E" Tech for Elemicin Extraction from Elemi Oil

Is safrole psychedelic? (a.k.a. "the mother of all nutmeg posts")

Queen Anne's Lace~Trippy?

Essential Oils and Entheogenic Use
Piperine: The opener ?

Curcumin (Turmeric extract) - Non-toxic+ Easy Extraction Tek
Curcumin (turmeric extract) tincture SUCCESS!
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Synthetic mescaline with boosting herbs (contains a pre-trip salad recipe designed with nutritional optimisation in mind)

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Be careful with cinnamon. Most cinnamon sold is Cassia cinnamon, and at high doses it can cause liver damage.

What type of effects are you looking for?

Yes, cassia contains potentially harmful levels of coumarins when consumed in excess. Ceylon cinnamon is generally considered the best, but even so, one shouldn't consume excessive amounts of cinnamaldehyde-containing material either.

I wonder if cinnamaldehyde's activity at the TRPV1 gives it some psychoactivity-boosting properties… As much is hinted in the paper discussed here:

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As mentioned elsewhere, my best results were with a "Space Paste" 'double tincture', where a distilled essence of the aromatics was then used to make a tincture from the paste proper. The next step would be to use the double tincture to moisten a further batch of paste, and then coat portions of it in dark chocolate, probably. Further fine-tuning would involve selecting the optimal type of honey for the confection, and maybe a dash of shilajit for good measure…

But first, @swish - inform yourself! And if you want an easy place to start, make a proper nutmeg tincture.

One more thing, some nutmeg is simply inactive - you have to get the right sort.

 

[swish]

Cool thanks. I have considered alcohol extraction. One problem for me is the expense of alcohol in Australia. Ethanol is not legal here. I’ve been eating these local brands of ground/whole nutmeg regularly for over six months to a year now. Ive had some great experiences. I doubt I could afford vodka right now on my budget but I’ll keep it in mind.

The problem I foresee with olive oil is trying to drink olive oil raw as I’d prefer milk. If I’m using for example 120g nutmeg for one dose that’s quite a bit of olive oil to guzzle down?

The milk tea I made earlier was quite stronger than the water tea and I must of consumed a dosage of 1/4 the amount of milk compared to the water tea. Milk tea may be a success for me. The taste is better. I’m planning to try this again today without messing up.

What type of effects am I looking for? As in for the nutmeg or other spices?

I can tell you a little bit about my experiences with nutmeg. I find the nutmeg experience helps deepen my meditation and it helps with my chronic pain. I’m no expert but there seems to be a tolerance issue where if you don’t eat the dosage in one go tolerance will build immediately. Just my thoughts so far, I could be wrong. At first I found nutmeg an interesting experience but over time I’ve come to appreciate it more. I’ve had some experiences that were quite euphoric. The empathic nature of the nutmeg experience leans towards something like MDMA or 2CB. I always notice a visual effect like colour saturation. It’s pretty. I had one experience where I saw entities through the patterns in the walls. Very profound but not full on visual material.

I use cannabis oil for chronic pain. Some might say its the combination of this with the nutmeg but I refute that as I’ve also been using nutmeg for some time before I started the oil and also on some days off.

 

[Transform]

Ah, I see - that non-availability of strong alcohol is something of an obstacle if you don't want to get into moonshining. There are some additional compounds extracted by strong alcohol which help to enhance the effect of nutmeg. I also got a surprise intoxication once after using mace tincture as an impromptu hand sanitiser, and it came on surprisingly quickly!

Nutmeg-infused olive oil is transdermally active as well, albeit nowhere near as strong as the mace tincture. Low doses are euphoriant in effect, higher doses become a stoning deliriant. All the various threads I've listed have a few reasonable xp reports between them, plus you could always try looking in the Erowid vaults to get more of an idea of what might happen.