Poor SWIM??? I'd say that your SWIM has a few months worth of spice in the photo and it is plenty clean to smoke (It's cleaner than the spice that SWIM has). Wait until it is very dry and doesn't have any naptha smell. It won't kill you but you want to smoke as little solvent as possible. He should get his feet wet by putting some leaf of some sort or ashes into a pipe and then put what he sees as half a pencil eraser size amount onto the leaf or ashes and then put some leaf or ashes on top then smoke it. If your SWIM takes it one hit at a time there is now way that he will get too much. Remember that some people take like 3 big hits at a time, not SWIM though. Be prepared to have an intense experience (probably more than you can possibly imagine!!)but know that it will only last no more than 7 to 10 minutes....more like 5 to 7 minutes. Your SWIM will get a buzzing sound like something out of a Sci-Fi Martian movie and get launched into Hyperspace! Enjoy and treat it with respect!
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HappyCamper
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My friend has never understood the eraser part. The pink eraser it's self or the hole in the pencil the eraser goes in?
Put it this way. If someone took the spice that is in the photo with the dime and made a small pile next to the dime with the exact same dimensions of the dime that should be about 50mg. If he then used 1/3 of that he would have around 16mg. People use anywhere from 15 to 70+mg for a dose depending on their sensitivity. SWIM has found that even if he puts 45mg into an oil pipe that he usually only gets 1/3 to 1/2 amount in an individual hit. If he puts 45mg into an oil pipe he can usually get two hits off of the bowl. If someone is putting the spice sandwiched between leaf then you usually will get all of it in one hit.
SWIM is overwhelmed with the success. He took about half an eraser's worth, sandwiched it between Blue Lotus, and took 3 huge tokes off of it. Long story short, he says he traveled through time, whatever that means.
SWIM says thanks, he's been thinking about the experiment for a number of years now, and the pay off was better than he'd imagined.
Now he has one last question. His third mixture isn't separating, and it's been siting over night. Should he add more lye or some salt to the mix?
Now he has one last question. His third mixture isn't separating, and it's been siting over night. Should he add more lye or some salt to the mix?
SWIM wouldn't add any lye but maybe some distilled water to give the naptha something to separate from. There are some other threads on here about this. Maybe add some salt to some distilled water then add that. The dmt freebase should be dissolved into the naptha anyway and as long as the mix isn't made acidic it should stay in the naptha. Now all you want to do is get the naptha to separate.
T+1d19h - SWIM yielded 0.5g from his first freeze (1st small pull + 1st large pull + the dissolved evap), and 0.5g from his second freeze (2nd large pull). He added 250mL of water and 50g of salt to the 3rd mix in hopes of getting it to separate. If it doesn't in a couple of hours, he says he'll add another 250mL of water and 100g of salt. So far the yield is 0.44% out of 228g of MHRB.
DMT is going to bring you into a different world. SWIM would highly recommend you start with a small dose to get a feel for it. Experience the body high before breaking thru. Also, the small dose will be a good time to find out if you have iron lungs. Some people have a hard time taking it in. Your stuff looks a little yellow which will make it a little harsher than pure dmt.
SWIMs recommendation:
Dose 1: 1/2 the size of a eraser head (then wait 1 hour)
Dose 2: size of an eraser head and a little bit more.
Remember... hit it hard!!! Take a slow, deep hit and hold it in for 10-20 seconds. Release and do it again until all the spice is gone. If you hesitate and 1-2 minutes passed, your body has already build a tollerance.
What are you using to smoke it?
SWIMs recommendation:
Dose 1: 1/2 the size of a eraser head (then wait 1 hour)
Dose 2: size of an eraser head and a little bit more.
Remember... hit it hard!!! Take a slow, deep hit and hold it in for 10-20 seconds. Release and do it again until all the spice is gone. If you hesitate and 1-2 minutes passed, your body has already build a tollerance.
What are you using to smoke it?
HappyCamper
Rising Star
Your friend's success makes my friend feel bad. He's actually one of the few people to screw up twice in a row. Hopefully this week will provide enough free time to give it another try.
Yeah, SWIM already tried it, and he got some great visuals, including traveling back in time and awesome geometric patterns. He's desperately been wanting to try more in a more controlled and fitting environment meant for healing, but he has to be conservative until he can get the third mix separated.
SWIM tried vaporizing the DMT between blue lotus in a vaporizer at 60C, but that was not successful; only a small body high, probbaly because the vapor was diluted in the bags. He then sandwiched it between blue lotus again, but this time it was placed in a small bubbler. He made sure to keep the flame from lighting the entire bowl, catching only the very tip top of the BL for the first two hits. The high came after releasing the first, and it made taking the second difficult, but he pushed through. For the third hit, he lit more of the bowl. That's when the chair in from of him disappeared, and he had to set the bubbler down on the floor. Every sound became digital/electronic, and everything looked like a painting. That's when he time traveled.
The smoke was not as harsh as SWIM had come to expect after reading about it for years; if anything, it was less abrasive than a certain common herb. However, some of SWIM's friends disagree completely, but SWIM believes it's because they had bad technique and a poor understanding of the vaporization process - they produced a lot of smoke and the smell was distinctly different from what SWIM got, so he assumes they were igniting the spice.
As for separating the naptha, SWIM put the mix jar into a hot water bath as suggested on another thread. He's very hopeful that this will make it work.
SWIM tried vaporizing the DMT between blue lotus in a vaporizer at 60C, but that was not successful; only a small body high, probbaly because the vapor was diluted in the bags. He then sandwiched it between blue lotus again, but this time it was placed in a small bubbler. He made sure to keep the flame from lighting the entire bowl, catching only the very tip top of the BL for the first two hits. The high came after releasing the first, and it made taking the second difficult, but he pushed through. For the third hit, he lit more of the bowl. That's when the chair in from of him disappeared, and he had to set the bubbler down on the floor. Every sound became digital/electronic, and everything looked like a painting. That's when he time traveled.
The smoke was not as harsh as SWIM had come to expect after reading about it for years; if anything, it was less abrasive than a certain common herb. However, some of SWIM's friends disagree completely, but SWIM believes it's because they had bad technique and a poor understanding of the vaporization process - they produced a lot of smoke and the smell was distinctly different from what SWIM got, so he assumes they were igniting the spice.
As for separating the naptha, SWIM put the mix jar into a hot water bath as suggested on another thread. He's very hopeful that this will make it work.
After some thinking, SWIM decided that he would wash all the materials that had been used to process the first two pulls with warm naptha, add that naptha to the naptha left overs from the first two freeze precips, evaporate the total volume to less than 50mL, and try to freeze precip that solution. Out of that he grabbed 0.2g of spice that is more yellow than the previous pulls, which should be expected; this yield will be recrystallized. The 3rd mix is separating nicely now that it's in the hot water bath. It will be allowed to sit a few more hours before extracting and freezing. Yields at this point are 1.2g, or 0.53%. Things are looking good.
SWIM says that the yield from the 3rd and 4th pulls combined was 0.3g, bringing the total yield to 1.5g, or 0.66%. The 5th mix is going to be left for a few days. SWIM will perform another total wash and collection and try to freeze precip that like he did before.
HappyCamper
Rising Star
Has your friend been using the same bark this whole time or is SWIM just confused?
SWIM thanks everyone for the help. He has one final question, one which he's never seen addressed: Where should he dump the MHRB+lye? He doesn't think it's a good idea to throw it down the drain or dump it in a field somewhere.
SWIM thinks that it is a good idea to pour vinegar or mix citric acid and water and pour it into the mixture. Enough of this will neutralize the lye and then it should be safe to flush down a toilet preferably into a sewer system. It may also help keep the roots out of your drain. Getting all the naptha out is more of a concern IMHO.
