First Extraction

[XoDys]

Tomorrow marks the day of my first dmt extraction! I am quite excited and have read up a lot of info to prepare myself for the undertaking.
I plan to take as many pics as I can and will post them here as I go.

I will be using the Noman's STB method.
Please feel free to give me any addition tips you may have regarding this technique.

Also, as I post my steps I encourage anyone to speak up if they think I am doing something wrong or if I could do something to help the process go more smoothly.

The plan is to begin with 100g of pre-powdered MHRB. Is this a good amount to start with for a beginner or too much?
My main goal of this extraction is not necessarily to produce dmt but to be able to use it as an opportunity to allow myself to learn as much as I can about the process as well as to get closer to the dmt-nexus community.

To a fresh start!
-XoDys

 

[ntwhtyouknw]

Allo! You seem to be headed in the right direction, 100 grams is a great starting point. It would appear your intentions are in the right place as well, If you take your time and follow the directions you might find yourself surprised with the results. Wish you the best!

 

[Noman]

Good luck.
Be sure to use the most recent version of the tek - it's on this site.
If you want to experiment, you could try doing the NP wash on half of one of your solvent pulls and see for yourself if it makes a difference.
Don't throw anything away and post your results.

 

[DoingKermit]

If you only have 100g of powdered bark total, i would do two 50g extractions just to get the process down. If the first 50g gets messed up, you'll still have the second 50g to play with.

If you have more than 100g, then i'd do as planned

 

[XoDys]

Ok here's the update.

I ended up only using 50g instead of 100 like I planned.
The mixing containers I used were quart sized and since I was using pre-powder bark I had to use more water.
So I split the 50g into two containers of 25g and used 600ml of H2O in each.

So far I have pulled 3 from each container for a total of six collection jars. I will pull two more for each jar this weekend.

I know it's not much but like I said I just wanted to get the hang of things before I start make more at once.
Separating was a bit difficult but once I got the hang of it it wasn't bad.
Now that I know what I'm doing I'll probably go for a 100g extract next time, probably in a milk jug.

Here's a couple pics:

 

[amvitamine]

How much solvent are you using per pull?
I would recommend 2 ml of solvent per gram of dmt.
Also, let the solvent collect dmt for at least 10 hours. A lot of teks say 30 minutes is enough but it really isn't by far.

 

[XoDys]

2ml? It seems like from what I've read 1ml is plenty.(Thats what I used) Hmm I guess it wouldn't hurt since I could just reuse it anyway..
I am letting my jars sit for a day or two to get most of whats left as well. If you are right about it needing to sit then I'll know this weekend.

Pulls Time After First intro of Naptha
First Jars - 1hr
Second Jars - 2hrs
Third Jars - 4hrs
Fouth Jars - (Will be) 20 hrs
Fifth Jars - (Will be) 50 hrs


Thanks for the tip!

 

[amvitamine]

I first used 100 ml on 100 gram mimosa giving me about 150 mg per pull with re used octane but when I put in about 250 ml of octane the yield increased to 350 mg per pull.
1ml is fine but you will need to do more pulls

 

[DoingKermit]

2ml per gram is definitely overkill. I find that smaller amounts of naphtha (.5ml-1ml per gram of bark) gives a nicely saturated solution, which ultimately causes the DMT to crash out easily when freeze precipitating. I find the time you let the naphtha sit on top of the base soup will not pull more spice. You have to be mixing the naphtha and base mix together periodically in order for the solvent to become super saturated.

HDPE milk jugs make the pulling process loads easier IMO. So good call on that one.

 

[amvitamine]

The naphtha will just take up as many dmt as it can, so adding more will just make it pull more dmt.
Unless you have done several pulls already and the soup is starting to contain less.
But in the first 3 pulls there is enough dmt for a 2ml per gram of bark extraction
And I have had really poor results with pulls less than 1 hour

 

[XoDys]

Ok so after 24 hours of freezing the jars still did not collect any precipitation. I pulled them out and let them sit near a fan to try and evaporate the naphtha. After a few hours of evaporation I stuck them back in the freezer and let them sit in there for about 10 hrs. There are crystals forming in one jar but the rest are just cloudy and wont go any further.
I think I need to evaporate more but am unsure as to the best method for doing this.

I do not expect to get much dmt from these pulls but I should be getting SOMETHING and besides that one jar none of them are precipitating.

Do any of you know a better way to evaporate the naphtha off so I can get crystals forming in the freezer?

 

[smokerx]

Do any of you know a better way to evaporate the naphtha off so I can get crystals forming in the freezer?

I made my self a little evaporating machine from computer fan and it works very well. What would take many hours to evaporate and dry takes much less now.

Maybe what you could try is let the naphtha evaporate till it gets cloudy and then put it back in the freezer.

 

[Bartacus]

I use a desk fan blowing over the top of the jars,does the job very quickly. I tried evaporating without one and it takes forever. I'd say a fan of some description is essential equipment.

 

[amvitamine]

You should get crystals on your first pull.
How much naphtha did you use and how long did it sit in the soup

 

[XoDys]

Ok While I was letting my other jars sit to evaporate I decided to run a 50g extract. I let it sit for 10 hrs this time before pulling and this is what I got from the first pull.

These are my first crystals. Very excited even with the small amount. Weighed out to be 148 mg.

 

[smokerx]

Ok While I was letting my other jars sit to evaporate I decided to run a 50g extract. I let it sit for 10 hrs this time before pulling and this is what I got from the first pull.

These are my first crystals. Very excited even with the small amount. Weighed out to be 148 mg.

Very nice crystals . congrat and happy travels

Let us know how much you got out when you finished

 

[TmC47]

Nice! Send a postcard, will you?
On evapping: I never use a fan. Speeding it up like this can have two unwanted effects:
- crystals will form above the surface level of the naphtha, making it creep up the container, so to speak.
- fast evapping will lower the temperature of your solvent to the point where air-moisture will condense on the inside, as well as the outside, of your container. this moisture could even freeze: don't underestimate this effect! Afterward, the moisture will drip down as droplets into the solvent/spice solution and make freeze precipitation yield mush instead of crystals. Its correctable, but eventually you'll *have* to re-extract with clean solvent. And that could have been done in the first place anyway.

So, be patient is my advise.

Peace!