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First run only moments ago

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jacetea

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Please note, SWIM was still partially coming down while he tells SWIY about it. Spelling errors imminent. Beware of wall-text below. He would also note the MJ is hitting hard (he doesn't normally use it).

SWIM had his first run only moments ago. He used a starter's dose of 27mg measured properly from a scale. He put down some MJ and the DMT on top, then covered it with a bit more MJ. No complete breakthrough yet. His friend helped him with the water bong as he felt he couldn't hold it any longer.

SWIM hasn't smoked anything for a long time so his throat wasn't prepared for it. SWIM felt the smoke from MJ but didn't get any harsh DMT smoke at all. He certainly got the effects though :)

First hit SWIM coughed by accident. He held it in for some time though. After he exhaled he instantly felt floaty and fuzzy.
Second hit he cleared the bong and his arms felt like he was swimming as he raised them.
There was no third hit.

He heard people from the room next door saying something. Then he noticed their voices were repeating like a CD player skipping. But it wasn't music, SWIM thought this very funny at the time. Then he closed his eyes. SWIM remembers feeling as if he was standing up, and then sitting down (he experienced a time skip)...Difficult to explain, it's a recollection issue. Next he realizes that he can see his hands and arm glowing through his eyelids. He feels as if there is a light right beside him (turned out it was a light source fairly far away in the room).

Next he can see shapes floating through his vision. SWIM always hears people say they can't describe these shapes and it's TRUE! They look like regular shapes and textures but somehow you're aware that they are four dimensional. Through these shapes he travels to a "room" kind of place. It's shaped like a slinky turned into self end-on-end. The middle is a vortex and he sees everything in tiny black dotted lines. It's moving from bottom to top always showing as dotted lines. Still fairly defined though.

Next swim has a weird image insert itself to his vision. It's a medical vial often seen in Hollywood to carry a virus. Inside he sees a few red dots connected by thin red lines. He had the impression it was some sort of virus being manufactured. By the way, the virus he could see looked like the chemical composition pictures of something. You see dots connected by lines.

Soon after swim realized things were starting to come down. He had trouble focusing on the vision and became more aware of his body. He heard this "tone" that people describe. It's very bizarre. It's as if the tone is always playing and you notice it for the first time. SWIM asked if his friend could hear a tone and he said no. SWIM had the feeling it was coming from the corner of the room, at the ceiling. He was oddly surprised to open his eyes and there was no speaker there. Slight confusion there.





SWIM is glad he used MJ instead of ash, the after-effects are very enjoyable. He can't stop smiling about it now :)

He feels completely changed. He hopes this doesn't wear off (maybe it's the MJ). He can hear people in another room blasting music. Instead of being annoyed, he just feels happy about them existing! So strange. He feels different, as if somehow renewed. Reset.

SWIM would like to make a formal thankyou for all the members that helped him. He is very thankful for the help you give people.
 
Second run only moments ago, MUCH DIFFERENT. SWIM believes almost complete breakthrough. Reader's digest at the bottom (questions)

SWIM adjusted his smoking technique, he no longer used a water-bong but a standard pipe instead. He put no MJ on the bottom this time. He sprinkled a tiny tiny bit on the top.

DOSE: aprox. 37~40mg weighed by proper scale
First hit, no cough good hold. Exhale and start feeling fuzzy. MJ is more harsh than DMT for him!
Second hit, he clears the pipe good hold. Exhale and......Well.....He closes his eyes
SWIM's buddy said it lasted about 15 minutes...He has no sense of the time what-so-ever.

First thing he sees is insane colors, spinning in front of him. 10x more vivid than the first time. Now he really can see what people mean by they can't explain them. Just a blast of colors, infinitely repeating and spinning. He had the brief image of a Buddha-like figure. SWIM is happy when he realized this dose was much much better. Even 10mg makes a world of difference.

Next, he sees a table. It's black and then a room materializes in front of him. he is sitting at this table, a floating cube is in front of him. It's clear, and morphing and rotating. Like a hypercube (4d cube rotating). he curiously looked at it and he sees a woman watching him. She had no real features, she was simply an outline. Her body was all colors, moving very fast, like static on a TV. She was watching him, as he was watching this cube. he doesn't fully understand why, but perhaps she was showing him a very simple shape to help him on his first true experience, or to observe his reaction? She made no effort to contact him, she simply watched, unmoving. Next the room seemed to take on a crazy colored texture. Everything was plastered with colors and the cube was still there, morphing around. He flickered in and out of this room, he hopes to control his flickering in the future.

Next, he got the bright idea to try using chi while in this state. he has been experimenting with chi for a while, he feels it quite strong. The DMT world skipped a bit and the vision faded. Everything went totally black and he could feel his arms. he tried using chi but nothing came out! he couldn't feel anything. It was at this point that he realized he couldn't feel his body correctly. He felt as if the body was somehow irrelevant and holding him back! He wondered if his physical body was still breathing. He tried breathing and he could hear his breath, this comforted him. He had to remember how to breathe, it was awkward. Does the physical body take care of itself while the mind travels? He was strangely disconnected. He put his hand to his forehead but he couldn't really feel anything. In front of him was his physical body and world, but an entire universe was behind him and he was stuck between the two. His head felt open, as if no boundaries were around it, just open space. Imagine it like putting your face into a small puddle. You are just peeking into the water world! It was backwards though, SWIM was peeking into the physical world from the DMT world.

Completely weird, but SWIM felt as if he could exist in both realities as once, his mind felt physically elsewhere while his hand and forehead also felt elsewhere. Far away and there was a delay between the two. Briefly he saw a vortex shaped like an hour-glass on it's side. A nearby fan assured him that he hadn't in fact died, he could hear it humming strangely and it comforted him...It really did cross his mind that his body was dying but he realized it wasn't so bad after all. He kept telling himself, don't think about it! It's ok, it's alright. He lived through it :)

QUESTION!!!: Does the physical body take care of itself while SWIY is under? SWIM could sometimes feel his body breathing fast, and felt his body's heartbeat rise. SWIM is curious how he remained sitting up during this ordeal, not on a chair but on the floor.

QUESTION!!!: Does the imagery become more clear with a slightly higher dose? Things were a bit hazy for SWIM, he has to realize it was a room before it snapped into place. Not a recollection issue, swim remembers it well. Does the body become even more detached with higher dose? SWIM realizes it depends on the person probably.

SWIM thanks you for your time. He will probably record further runs in a personal journal rather than here. Only posting to give back to the community that helped him realize this beautiful medicine. True medicine for the first time.
 
Nice beginnings. The answer to all three of your questions is yes.

Yes, your body will take care of itself.

Yes, the body becomes more detached. At a certain point you will, for all intents and purposes, become completely disembodied.

And yes, the imagery becomes dramatically clearer as you work your way up and refine your smoking technique. At lower doses, it may be as though you can sense it more than see it, or maybe it's there peripherally but not fully defined right in front of you, whereas at higher doses it's just relentlessly in your face. Higher still, and you become your environment - meaning there is little or no separation between what you are witnessing and what you yourself are becoming. This is full integration - what SWIM considers "breaking through" - and at this stage there is zero awareness of the body, the self, baseline reality, time, space, etc. etc.
 
SWIM is completely jaw-dropped by this idea. He took only 40mg and experienced the craziest thing in his life. For the first time, he was actually experiencing a true "magic" event...For lack of a better word. Nevermind hoping and trying to mess with chi and praying and such, this was the first true "paranormal" experience. As real as day.

SWIM is gaining more and more respect for this powder, if what you say is even vaguely true. That breaking through further is possible, or that this wasn't a complete breakthrough. SWIM has noticed 27mg didn't do very much in comparison. He tried 40mg and recalled the event fairly clearly. SWIM isn't sure whether to try 50mg or jump right into a 60mg dose. He will read around. Thanks.
 
Slow your roll, soldier. There ain't no shame in gradually working your way up to ridiculous doses.

50mgs is exponentially deeper than 40, as 60 is to 50. SWIM has been a whole bunch of times, and he's still only touched the tip of the iceberg. New levels are constantly revealed.

The more you go, the weirder it gets. "Breakthrough" is just a word, you dig? And as I guess you've already discovered, there are truly no words to describe this.
 
jacetea said :"SWIM adjusted his smoking technique, he no longer used a water-bong but a standard pipe instead. He put no MJ on the bottom this time. He sprinkled a tiny tiny bit on the top."


just a lil advice for further exploration.after trying every smokin method avalible ,the one i have the best success with goes like this.

take a standard metal pipe w/screw on lid and clean screen.place some dry ,finely ground passion flower leaves and place on top of screen*just a pinch to cover the bottom a little* place your spice on top of passion flower.cover your spice with a little more finely ground passion flower,screw on lid and off to hyperspace you go.with the lid you want have to worry about making a mess or burning the couch/bed/floor/forest or where ever you take your trip.

i use passion flower as my inert smoking medium because it is super easy to smoke, unlike MJ that can be quite harsh by itself.

remember one more important step for best results.when lighting ,try not to suck too hard thru the pipe cause this will cause the contents of the bowl to heat up alot more than you want it too.just remember to hit it slow and easy.3 to 4 slow, big hits and it should be cashed.
 
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