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It's pretty expensive. There is a package of three one hour floats for around $100.
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I would try it if it was that cheap where i live. HEre you have to pay 180€ for three hours, That is around 250$ US ....

But there seem to exist a community of floaters who have built their own tanks. This might be an option if one is desperate for a longer float. I kinda don't see the reason to try shorter floats. But paying 500$ for a real half day float ...meh, i don't know.
 
I did my first float last fall (3.5hrs) and it was incredible! My second float wasn't half as long, and obviously wasn't nearly as interesting (i was also stoned that second time and couldn't relax well)

I plan on building my own in the future. Some say they did it with a little over a thousand bucks...Well worth it IMO
 
While it's probably best to try it out for a while at a float center - if you get hooked building your own can be rewarding. Less cost and longer floats in the comfort of your own home / basement. I built one but had to tear down when I moved. Used it a few times a week for a few years. Great augmentation to meditation practice. I miss it.

A few considerations:

Be safe. Do not dose and float. There is a documented tank fatality liked to mescaline. One wrong twist and a lung full of salt water and no one is commin to check on you. A dumb way to die.

Before you build plan how you will control extra humidity in your basement / home.

Major systems include the media (800 lbs epsom salt - magnesium sulphate), filtration (pool pump, sand filter, maybe UV aquarium sanitizer), air filtering (you need fresh air in there), insulation (poly panels can work well when sealed with window construction tape), water containment (fish safe pond liner works well), heat (digital waterbed heater under the liner). I used OSB plywood for the containment tub (4'x8') then exteded upward with poly panels. This created a tank tall enough to stand in. Also plumbing for filter should not penetrate the liner - and no bottom drains - too risky for leaks.

Good luck.
 
I would love to have a float session. I've been having talks with a few different people about the possibility of doing a study on OBE's via floatation tanks, but time and money are limiting factors at present. These are some DIY float tanks plans shared by a Nexian a while back for anyone interested.
 

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I wouldn't recommend dosing the first time you try it; partly because it can take a while to calm down the initial excitement even going in sober, and partly because its more dangerous when you aren't familiar with it,obviously

I think if you've already floated before and don't take a ridiculous dose then you'll be fine...Just make damn sure you dont get any salt water in your eyes!
 
Isolation tanks are awesome.

Sensory deprivation coupled with re-distributed brain power = wow.

The basic concept is that a huge portion or the brain is used for calculation and constant management of gravity on this planet. Allegedly 80-90%. (This is what I've read.)
The salt float removes the need for the brain to calculate gravity and after 15-30 minutes power gets redistributed back to the rest of the brain. Removing all other senses also allows for focused redistribution and journeys through hyperspace. Allegedly one is to work their way up gradually starting at 30-45 mins and then adding 20-30 minutes each subsequent float until at 3ish hours max. I've read in general not to go over about 3 hrs.

An excellent book I have in my library at home is wort picking up. And you can get used copies for pennies.

 
I think 30 minutes is way too short. I don't see any problem with starting at even 3 hours... You can always get out if you want to

what evidence is it that the brain works that hard to "manage gravity"? Sensory dep in a cave works to over time...
 
universecannon said:
I think 30 minutes is way too short. I don't see any problem with starting at even 3 hours... You can always get out if you want to

what evidence is it that the brain works that hard to "manage gravity"? Sensory dep in a cave works to over time...
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UC,

It's just information I've picked up during my research of IsoTanks... it is an ultimate goal of mine to construct one....

As for how much brain power is used to calculate gravity, I am unaware of any exact figures - just picked that up during research....
 
I agree with 30 mins being too short. Even an hour seems too short. I feel like I'm just starting to get into it, when the ambient music comes on indicating that you have to get out soon.

Floats are pretty cheap where I live luckily, but owning one would be ideal!
 
A company has recently launched a more affordable (but still not cheap) float tank set up for home use via a very successful Kickstarter campaign for anyone interested. I'm intrigued to have some sessions in a tank but it is really expensive where I am. I have a feeling floating could be an aid in OBE induction...not necessarily in the tank per se, but for the profound relaxed afterglow they can give you, I think the feeling of floating could carry over well to practice and be an ally in this regard.

 
My float experience was very comfortable. In fact, I fell asleep for more than an hour. I would do it again except it was a 2 hour drive. Definitely worth at least one experience.
 
Archmage said:
universecannon said:
I think 30 minutes is way too short. I don't see any problem with starting at even 3 hours... You can always get out if you want to

what evidence is it that the brain works that hard to "manage gravity"? Sensory dep in a cave works to over time...
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UC,

It's just information I've picked up during my research of IsoTanks... it is an ultimate goal of mine to construct one....

As for how much brain power is used to calculate gravity, I am unaware of any exact figures - just picked that up during research....
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I understand that, and I don't doubt that the semi weightlessness has a big effect of some kind. I was just curious as to where you got that specific information or what their reasoning or evidence was, since I'm interested. :)
 
universecannon said:
Archmage said:
universecannon said:
I think 30 minutes is way too short. I don't see any problem with starting at even 3 hours... You can always get out if you want to

what evidence is it that the brain works that hard to "manage gravity"? Sensory dep in a cave works to over time...
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UC,

It's just information I've picked up during my research of IsoTanks... it is an ultimate goal of mine to construct one....

As for how much brain power is used to calculate gravity, I am unaware of any exact figures - just picked that up during research....
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I understand that, and I don't doubt that the semi weightlessness has a big effect of some kind. I was just curious as to where you got that specific information or what their reasoning or evidence was, since I'm interested. :)
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Just to clear some things up.

The energy that you are freeing up is due to any processing your brain is doing for visual, auditory, feeling, and yes gravity. Although those numbers are not correct. The 80-90% archmage speaks of is the total sum of all the sensory parts of your body, not just the gravity processing your brain is doing. I had seen a study, I think, where they showed parts of the brain lighting up while a patients sensory needs were deprived. If I can find it I will post it here.

Also it is recommended that you do at least 1.5 hours at first. As you learn to float adding more time will become more beneficial. The only reason to not start out with tons of hours would be due to how much it costs to do long floats, as you learn to float the longer floats will be more beneficial than they would in the beginning. I dispute the 3hr max claim, as I have talked with floaters that spend upwords in the 8+ hour range and report nothing but amazing benefits.

Many insomniacs are able to sleep in float tanks as well.

I understand that, and I don't doubt that the semi weightlessness has a big effect of some kind. I was just curious as to where you got that specific information or what their reasoning or evidence was, since I'm interested. Smile
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I think there have been studies of weightlessness's effects on the brain via our ability to goto space. Although I havent looked much into it. I would think its safe to assume that most of the information posed as scientific understanding of sensory deprivation tanks is conjecture.
 
I have some experience floating.

I have dosed and floated several times, but ime it has been the best on the comedown of intense journeys.

Depending on what your dosing and how heavily I think being somewhere other then a closed black box might be safer for the uninitiated.

I have done 2g mushrooms doses and floated for three hours and had a divine time, and have dosed 4aco dmt and floated for 2 and same thing.

My advice on combining floating and psychedelics like anytime using psychedelics is just to realize what you are getting yourself into beforehand and you shouldn't have any problems.

By far the most enjoyable time I had floating was on the comedown of an intense aya mushroom dmt filled night and I had regained more or less normal awareness and was able to let my body unwind and really integrate everything from the previous night, this in my opinion is the best use of the float tank.
 
How do sensory deprivation experiences compare to experiences based on Ganzfield effect? I ask because of the cost/effort differences (getting into a giant tank of saltwater vs. putting on goggles and headphones).

It seems to me that a sensory deprivation experience could be achieved if I wore sound-proof headphones and a light-shielding mask, and took some sort of tactile anesthetic.
 
Plan to try this for the first time this Friday with a fellow nexian friend of mine. Will report back. Most like 4 aco dmt and edible cannabis will be involved.
 
I'm really psyched to try floating sometime. Have attached a paper on it that may be of interest.
 

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I'm really psyched to try floating sometime. Have attached a paper on it that may be of interest.
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Just do it. :thumb_up: If you don't have the money, X-mas is near. :d The first time was funny, not the tank itself (a regular massage is probably more cost effective in terms of relaxation), but the dream afterwards. I was on a South American mountain with some other persons, who got instructed by Ram Das and then we flew into the white light. No lucidity, but nevertheless spectacular. The second time was unfortunately pretty unspectacular and not worth the cost/benefit ratio. That's why I decided to save my money for the upcoming Aurora LD device: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/iwinks/the-aurora-dream-enhancing-headband/posts/1408615
 
Cool dream...it is funny how often that experience of merging with white light appears, in all manner of different practices, seems to be one of those core, universal human experiences long reported by the mystics. Float sessions are pretty expensive here in the UK and float tanks are few and far between, so slightly longer term I'm looking into making or buying my own, I'm kinda up for making it a part of my life and already have some experiments in mind! 8)

And yeah I've already got my eye on the Aurora, I have it bookmarked for a future purchase, looking forward to having a play with that!!

This is an interesting documentary on floatation, worth a watch if this floats your boat. :thumb_up:

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