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[SnozzleBerry]

does such a thing exist? I can just boil it down into a goo and gelcap it? and, what are the toxic elements in harmala?

 

[cuddlybear]

extracted from mhrb using this tek http://www.disregardeverythingisay.com/post/15411034779/simple-dmt-extraction-technique

i shook the bottle too much and created an emulsion, the worst of the emulsion is gone, i used a spoon to take out the naptha, but there is loads of naptha with brown stuff in it.

i tried to filter it with a cheesecloth, and now in the jar is a bottom layer of brown naptha and a top layer of clean naptha.

how can i get rid of the brown stuff so i can do my freeze precip?

 

[3rdI]

you just decant of the clear stuff into your freeze precip tray and leave the brown at the bottom.

 

[cuddlybear]

thanks for the reply, yeah thats what i have done.

but, i have loads of brown naptha, and this naptha probably contains my biggest dmt pull because it was sitting in the mhrb jar for at least 3 days, ontop of radiator, being shaken vigourously etc.

is there anything i can do with it?

 

[Mimosa_Man]

thanks for the reply, yeah thats what i have done.

but, i have loads of brown naptha, and this naptha probably contains my biggest dmt pull because it was sitting in the mhrb jar for at least 3 days, ontop of radiator, being shaken vigourously etc.

is there anything i can do with it?

I have read, BUT NOT TRIED THIS, that if you have "emulsions" i.e. plant matter or water mixed in with your naptha, to add more LYE to the mixture and shake then let sit to make the layers separate more completely.

Also RE-crystallizing after pulling the brown naptha would get rid of the nasties.

If i'm wrong here someone correct me. Good Luck

 

[Mimosa_Man]

Also, the tek you are using is rather simple and will NOT pull ALL the dmt from your plant matter. check this link Category:DMT - DMT-Nexus Wiki to reveiw other teks such as "Cyb's hybrid atb salt tek" or his "max ion tek" both will yeild much more dmt.

You would know this if you took some time to properly research what you're doing instead of rushing through with this tek.

Anyhow, good luck friend

 

[cuddlybear]

i have tried adding more lye but the mixture is roughly the same, it looks like some brown goop has left the naptha but it is still basicly brown, if frozen it just becomes like frozen mud, although this does allow me to get a little clean naptha off that isnt trapped.

i have a huge amount of naptha full of this brown shit, probably the best part of the extraction.

is it salvagable in any way at all? it just seems the brown is in a perfect mix with the naptha :|

 

[Mimosa_Man]

Did you add the entire 150ml naptha all at once as per the tek?
You shouldnt have a "huge amount" of it ever...
Max recommended naptha per pull around here is around 50ml.
Leave the solution to Evaporate until it becomes cloudy.
Retry your freeze precip
If goodies come out with nasties do a re-crystallization or 3.

Also, hard work and doing your own research is what is expected around here. Notice how I'm just handing out answers. We don't like to do that around here because the same questions have been asked hundreds of times.

There is a SEARCH button in the top right corner of the page. USE IT please.

If you aren't willing to put in the appropriate time yourself and FIND the answers then maybe you shouldn't be extracting?

 

[cuddlybear]

i added 100ml at first, but the emulsion was so bad, i gave up trying to break it, read about giving it time, tried another pull in the meantime, decanted that off and it worked. then a third pull it emulsified again, so i have maybe 200ml emulsified naptha in the jar altogether.

i have used the search extensively and the main answers have been, sit it on washing machine or vibrating thing (i have neither), add naoh, add salt, time or use search.
neither salt, naoh or time have done anything.

im sorry if im asking something that seems simple, but i assure you its not from lazyness. im just very anxious for this to work and im not finding an answer thats helped.

next time i will stick rigidly to the tek's on here and will definately never again extract in circumstances where i am being rushed to produce for somebody else - which has whats led to this situation.

apologies

 

[Mimosa_Man]

And it's not even for yourself?? Seems like a LOT of trouble and risk for something you aren't even going to use.

Edit: Also, if it were me I would not go to that much trouble for someone else unless it were an extremely special situation.

Maybe I'm just being judgemental, but this seems pretty fishy to me.

 

[cuddlybear]

of course its for myself, but the deal was, my friend payed for the mhrb and i would spend the time preparing it then we split it 50/50

at first i prepared ayahuasca but it turned out to be very weak. my friend wasnt happy at all, so i quickly tried to scramble together an extraction as quickly as i could, and thats what led me to this point. not a mistake i will be making again, especially after finding this community

 

[Mimosa_Man]

Sorry for doubting your reasons.

Other than just extracting the naptha, along with as little of the extra nasties as possible considering the situation, evaping, doing a sodium carbonate wash and then freeze precip and re-xing, I don't have much else I can offer in the way of help.

Hope it works out for you

EDIT: When evapping leave it out in as large and shallow a dish as possible to speed the evaporation along. you can also have a "cool" fan blowing air over the dish or dishes to help speed it up.

 

[Entheogenerator]

Sodium carbonate wash to get the brown out of the already pulled naphtha. Followed by two washes of plain distilled water to remove any traces of sodium carbonate.

For the emulsion: heat bath, salt, more lye, gentle agitation. If none of these work, try them again.

FYI: This tek is awful. For one, it just refers to "mimosa hostilis root bark" without once mentioning whether that root bark is powdered, shredded, chopped, whole, whatever. I just picture someone trying to do their first extraction, sticking huge whole pieces of MHRB in the jar and going "why isn't it working??" :lol:

 

[cuddlybear]

well tbh, my bark was in no means powder but i ripped it up the best i could.

maybe il just put this one down to experience and get stuck in here and do my next one by the book.

thanks for the input. hopefully this works

 

[Mimosa_Man]

Sodium carbonate wash to get the brown out of the already pulled naphtha. Followed by two washes of plain distilled water to remove any traces of sodium carbonate.

For the emulsion: heat bath, salt, more lye, gentle agitation. If none of these work, try them again.

FYI: This tek is awful. For one, it just refers to "mimosa hostilis root bark" without once mentioning whether that root bark is powdered, shredded, chopped, whole, whatever. I just picture someone trying to do their first extraction, sticking huge whole pieces of MHRB in the jar and going "why isn't it working??" :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: omfg that would be hilarious and at the same time sad

 

[Entheogenerator]

well tbh, my bark was in no means powder but i ripped it up the best i could.

maybe il just put this one down to experience and get stuck in here and do my next one by the book.

thanks for the input. hopefully this works

That doesn't necessarily mean you won't get some DMT out of it, but you probably won't get all of the DMT out of it.

EDIT: There is almost always a way to save an extraction. No reason to give up, this sounds like a pretty simple problem to solve.

 

[ScriabinAnime]

What would be the best kind of root bark to start with on first project? Are all types of mimosa plants equal? I was thinking of starting my first extraction with mimosa hostilis.

 

[Du57mi73]

What would be the best kind of root bark to start with on first project? Are all types of mimosa plants equal? I was thinking of starting my first extraction with mimosa hostilis.

Thats the best. Barely any plant oils. Easy to work with. High %. Negligent amounts of NMT.

 

[WhereEaglesDare]

I have read various amounts of pulls from different teks and peoples own experiences and I know there is a lot of things that can affect it but just interested to hear a general consensus.

I did my first extraction using CYB's Hybrid salt tek and from 50 g MHRB I got a total yield of roughly 980 mg.

This was from 5 pulls. The first 2 pulls yielded 680 mg between then, the next 2 pulls yielded 300 mg between them and the 5th and final pull yielded basically nothing apart from a tiny waxy layer with some minute crystals.

The first 2 pulls were incredibly milky, the 3rd pulls less so and was almost clear, the 4th pull was clear/yellowish and the last pull almost totally clear.

In future is it worth doing a 5th pull? Is the "milkiness" a good indicator of how loaded the pull is?

Really interest to hear other peoples thoughts and whether I should just do less pulls.

 

[3rdI]

I do 3 shaky hot 50ml pulls on 100g of mhrb in a litre jar using the max ion tek and I have found this gets all the goodies.

the only way to tell if its worth doing more pulls is by doing more pulls, since you can reuse your solvent its not really wasting anything.

 

[WhereEaglesDare]

Cool, thanks for the reply. Next extract I will do 5 again and see what comes out, if the 5th doesn't yield anything worthwhile then I will cut it down etc until I find the sweet spot.

I am guessing different batches of bark can make difference too?