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Ever since around the year 2004 when SWIM started to journey down the entheogenic/psychedelic road, he obviously hasn't been the same, but in a good way. He sees the light in every situation, and always trys to bring others up when they are down.

SWIM only has a couple "close" friends. Maybe now only "one". SWIM is in no way, shape, or form complaining about the matter, but it seems ever since SWIM and a few of his closests started down the road of entheos/psychs SWIM has semmed to be drifting apart from his closest friends. What SWIM means is that now more than ever he tries to have intelligent, thoughtful conversations with these closest, and it "looks" like they listen to SWIM and they agree all day, but when it comes down to it, they are not taking anything in whatsoever, and it's kind of like talking to a wall that only talks back a quarter of the time lol.

Like awhile back SWIM and a friend thats always done his trips with took acouple grams of some really nice shrooms that SWIM grew. And long story short, SWIMs friend freaked out, only because there was inner conflict and demons SWIMs friend had to face, in which SWIM was by his side helping him through it the whole night. And after SWIMs friend came to after about 5 or so hours, he told SWIM directly that he's done being a nothing and ready to take stand and do something great with his life and hes done with the partying/drinking every other day and doesn't want to be around that influence because he gives in easy to situations such as those. Well two days later SWIMs friend is at it again...parties..hooking up girls that dont mean a damn, and going against everything he said.

The point SWIMs getting at is that now the bond that him and his few closest friends had is miles apart it seems. When we conversate anymore, it's like SWIMs the more "out there" one compared to them, and thats how it makes SWIM feel. And it's like SWIM can't relate in any way anymore, he seems to just be wasting air lol. SWIM wishes he had more intelligent, thoughtful, multi perspective friends such as the members on this forum. It's just kind of a bummer!

Ohh well, sorry for the rant guys,..just had to get out whats been on SWIMs mind lately. :?
 
I can totally relate, and I'm going to guess that the majority of psychedelic users experience this. I feel very fortunate to have some very good friends who not only know what's up, but also continue to quest for knowledge, and enlightenment. We discuss a massive variety of different topics constantly questioning each others reasoning/motives. If it weren't for these very few close friends I don't know what I would do. They're pretty much the only friends I really talk to. It's quite sad, but a reality I've chosen to accept long ago. I still have a lot of friends, but I realize that the reality they live in is often vastly different from my own, and that's okay. The majority of people just don't get it. And well, lets be honest, the majority of people FEAR psychedelics, or have been brainwashed into believing they are "just another drug" that's bad for you. I prefer not to associate with people who hold beliefs for no good reason, or without actually thinking about it for them self.
 
[quote='Coatl]Dude I hear ya.

I'll be your friend tho.
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Thanks Coatl!

And thanks for replying TheNtt!

I basically devide my "friends" into ones that are considered "closest" which is only like 2. And then the people I associate and have a good laugh with at work, out, etc...I guess your could moreso call those people "acquaintances".

The friend I spoke of in my post does get it. And we've had so many talks. And our views are similar in alot of ways. But when he starts going into these other scenarios that aren't helping his situation, I just don't get it. It's almost like "do you really get i?". He is so easily influenced by his other closest friends which is very sad in my eyes. Because this dude is almost a genius with music,art, and any form of expression.

It's obvious that true friends in everyday life are few and far between, but after many psy/entheo experiences, it's put SWIM on a whole other level of perception/thinking, which in turn puts that "few n' far between" saying to its highest degree. lol
 
As you get older & older, you will notice less & less people you really relate to, on a full level, its a sad part of life.
There were good friends I haven't seen in 15 years, that I thought would be my best friends until we died.
People change, life goes on, dust in the wind, blah, blah, blah...

Don't blame your friend, it takes a lot of work to really "get it", most folks are just not ready, or willing to keep that going. & nobody ever really gets anything for very long anyway.
Ignorance truly is bliss!!

When you think about the fact that this is a world wide forum, there is really only a relatively tiny number of like minded people here too.
And we are all spread out over the globe!!
It is wonderful that this Nexus is even here!!
Ten years ago, you had to have the luck to run into someone who liked you enough, plus respected you enough & above all trusted you enough to have this kind of knowledge passed on to you!!
Now its just a click away!!
There are even people here willing to be a shoulder to cry on when your feeling lonely.:d
You are not so alone anymore really...

Above all remember, the study of psychedelics is an inward study. So don't be too surprised when you wake up one day & find you have many more good acquaintances then you do true friends.
And when you do find someone who you sync up with in that right way, hopefully they will also be someone you are attracted to & feels the same way about you!!! Then you'll never be alone!

WS
 
Music is probably one of the best ways to meet interesting and like-minded people. It can serve as the bridge between the straight and freak community. It's a great medium for communication between individuals (by sharing music or making music) or even mass communication between communities. Music is probably one of the main reasons SWIM even drifted into entheogens. I hardly even know anyone who's taste in music isn't at all comparable to mine, and the people I make music with are among my closest friends.
 
I seem to have kind of withdrawn from some of my friends. Ever since I've been introduced to entheogens, I've drifted down a path I never foresaw. I still have some close friends that I have almost nothing in common with anymore, so that is difficult at times. I have other close friends who have put themselves on the fast track to nowhere and I try not to be influenced by their lifestyle. I somehow manage to maintain relationships with these people, but it's just different now. One friend in paticular comes to mind. He is a hardworking honest man who wants to lead a respectable life in the eyes of society. But he is somewhat of a bigot, hates all drugs no matter what, and is just not a compassionate person in anyways. But he is like my brother. I was much the same until I went down the road of entheogens. While I still consider myself honest and hardworking, I do not care about money or the way society looks at me. I no longer harbor the bigotry I used to and I am now filled with compassion I never had. It's just made things different.
 
I just do not like when some of my friends use say LSD, mushrooms, etc for just a kick or some sort of "entertainment". It honestly makes me wish that these substances would show them "whats up" just one time..just once...and make them realize that this stuff isn't a party joke.

But all in all I know that the change of mind has to come from the person. Your your own commander.


Anyways my closest friend (that does actually 'get it') had saw what I wrote on here and had read it last night. Afterwards he came over and we smoked some of mary janes finest :) And we talked about where we're headed. And i'm thinking heavily on the fact of doing this apprenticship where I work so I can make a comfortable living, then a few years down the road get back to school to study botany and horticulture, and possibly open my own massive greenhouse/plant nursery! Being able to grow/produce visually stunning plants, along with all the edibles such as vegetables, fruits,etc. This really excites SWIM

It just seemed to click with SWIM last night, and his friend agered heavily on the fact that this could definitely be the golden ticket for their life and the future.
 
warrensaged said:
As you get older & older, you will notice less & less people you really relate to, on a full level, its a sad part of life.
There were good friends I haven't seen in 15 years, that I thought would be my best friends until we died.
People change, life goes on, dust in the wind, blah, blah, blah...

Don't blame your friend, it takes a lot of work to really "get it", most folks are just not ready, or willing to keep that going. & nobody ever really gets anything for very long anyway.
Ignorance truly is bliss!!

When you think about the fact that this is a world wide forum, there is really only a relatively tiny number of like minded people here too.
And we are all spread out over the globe!!
It is wonderful that this Nexus is even here!!
Ten years ago, you had to have the luck to run into someone who liked you enough, plus respected you enough & above all trusted you enough to have this kind of knowledge passed on to you!!
Now its just a click away!!
There are even people here willing to be a shoulder to cry on when your feeling lonely.:d
You are not so alone anymore really...

Above all remember, the study of psychedelics is an inward study. So don't be too surprised when you wake up one day & find you have many more good acquaintances then you do true friends.
And when you do find someone who you sync up with in that right way, hopefully they will also be someone you are attracted to & feels the same way about you!!! Then you'll never be alone!

WS

superb post, warrensaged!

how old are you by the way?
 
DMTtripn2Space said:
I just do not like when some of my friends use say LSD, mushrooms, etc for just a kick or some sort of "entertainment". It honestly makes me wish that these substances would show them "whats up" just one time..just once...and make them realize that this stuff isn't a party joke.

But all in all I know that the change of mind has to come from the person.


if they keep useing it as a party kick they will be shown and harshly when there time is right

friend:twisted:
 
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