For those with diminishing effects

[greenbean]

DMT tends to stop effecting me. I can blow thru 100mg with little more than slight OEV and CEV typically nonexistent. I’ve even tried sublingual harmalas during these times and the effects stay quite weak. I guess my mind is adept at defending against the dmt. Perhaps some receptors have down regulated. Anyway I’m curious how many other people have similar experiences. How long of a break was necessary to get full effects again? Any other changes that made a difference? Would taking harmalas alone for some time period help?

 

[jiva]

i think you should take a look at this

also there are a lot of threads around here regarding this topic.
but the best way seems to be to stop doing any drugs at all and live a healthy lifestyle.

for some it takes weeks, for others it might be years...

 

[Exitwound]

DMT tends to stop effecting me. I can blow thru 100mg with little more than slight OEV and CEV typically nonexistent. I’ve even tried sublingual harmalas during these times and the effects stay quite weak. I guess my mind is adept at defending against the dmt. Perhaps some receptors have down regulated. Anyway I’m curious how many other people have similar experiences. How long of a break was necessary to get full effects again? Any other changes that made a difference? Would taking harmalas alone for some time period help?

I suggest using search feature or just page welcome forums. If I am not mistaken similar discussion had taken place a few weeks ago or so.

How frequent was your usage prior to diminishing effects?

Basically take at least month off. Try getting to the baseline and see how fresh it feels. I doubt you will reach baseline so fast but still much difference.

Maybe there is a message and lesson for you to appreciate this reality more?
I think continuing resisting spice might result in so called hyperslap, which you probably won't like at all.

 

[greenbean]

i think you should take a look at this

also there are a lot of threads around here regarding this topic.
but the best way seems to be to stop doing any drugs at all and live a healthy lifestyle.

for some it takes weeks, for others it might be years...

Thanks I had seen that link and some of the other topics. I don’t use drugs too often but I do have a rx for dexamphetamine for add. I guess I could stop using it but I only take 1/4 of my dose and only 2-3 times a week currently. I drink coffee maybe 2-3 times a week as well. Other than that my biggest crutch is cannabis that I try to keep to once a week but take breaks for longer periods. If I’m not careful with that I could easily smoke it daily.

My dmt use ranged from once a week to sometimes 5 days in a row out of frustration of weak effects and testing method, dose size, time holding hits etc. I guess I just wanted to rule out doing something wrong. Usually I would back off and take a break not because of a bad trip or hyper slap but because I would develop a strange sensation on the left side of my head. Kind of a pressure or vibration / pulsing feeling that would come and go for days. The only thing I could find that sounded similar were “brain zaps” for people that stopped taking certain medications. I chalked it up to overstimulation and some neck tension I developed which may have been a coincidence.

I live a fairly healthy lifestyle. Food choices aren’t too bad and I try to keep the sugar to a minimum. Exercise at least a couple times a week. Anyway I suppose a longer break is what I’ll do and see if I can manage without my rx, coffee or cannabis. I can’t deny I’m a little envious of those who get consistent effects. I’ve still not broken through. I guess it takes more for me than most.

Thanks for the advice.

 

[GoneWiththeWind]

This might sound silly, but have you tried cleaning your smoking device? I was having diminishing effects and was using higher and higher doses until I cleaned my gvg and replaced the vapor pad. Having a lot of condensed DMT on the side of the pipe really seems to lower the efficiency. Just a thought.

 

[Somebody]

I suggest as above to take +1week break from everything you can. Throw the ball far away and go fetch, while there remember to vape some DMT.

Break the routine man !

 

[0_o]

You could try to boost glutamic acid levels, glutamate plays a major role in psychedelic tolerance via the NMDA receptor activity.
However you are likely better off quitting for 6 to 18 months to allow the brain to return to normalcy.

 

[padawan]

I develop a tolerance very quickly too - if I do it once or twice a fortnight (or thereabouts) after 2-3 months it will just become a waste of spice and I lose interest for several months. Time is the key to a good reset, IMO. I have no idea why tolerance develops in some people and not others. Seems unfair lol

 

[greenbean]

You could try to boost glutamic acid levels, glutamate plays a major role in psychedelic tolerance via the NMDA receptor activity.
However you are likely better off quitting for 6 to 18 months to allow the brain to return to normalcy.

I’ll have to research glutamic acid and if it’s safe to manipulate. Do you have any experience doing this? 6-18 months, does it really take that long for the brain to recover to baseline? How does one know if it’s been long enough? I see people say they wait for the call but I don’t know what this means.

 

[greenbean]

I develop a tolerance very quickly too - if I do it once or twice a fortnight (or thereabouts) after 2-3 months it will just become a waste of spice and I lose interest for several months. Time is the key to a good reset, IMO. I have no idea why tolerance develops in some people and not others. Seems unfair lol

I was doing it more often than that. Have you determined what frequency works best for you? It does seem unfair. I wonder if those of us who develop tolerance have some deficiency or maybe it’s the other way around.