Giving Friends First Experiences

[voyaj]

How do people go about giving their friends their first doses?

I always feel sort of guilty and nervous before I do. I make sure they have researched, I have shown them the Why Not to Take DMT essay on the Nexus and the very few times I have divulged it I have felt as though it is their own decision at that point.

I was going on tour and before we left a shaman came in and gave us a blessing ritual. I know it sounds sort of silly but it was actually quite nice. A day later we were passing through my town and my mates wanted to try it, since it is not like I carry it around everywhere with me. I gave them another lecture about why they need to think about why they want to do this.

First mate goes and comes back glowing about rainbows and some sort of godlike entity. He is absolutely ecstatic.

Then the second mate goes. We are adults in our 30s, all versed in psychedelics, psychedelic music, messed up avante garde films, I figured there is not one person in this band that would have a difficult trip. When the second mate hits it it takes about ten seconds and then he begins to stand up. He asks with a smile, what if I stand up, it will stop? I have never seen a reaction like this. He wobbles a couple of steps and then he goes down on his knees and stays in an almost fetal position the rest of the trip.

I felt terrible that he had this reaction, but my other mate laughed and said it was what he needed. He later said it showed him all of the negativity he is bringing into the world. The rest of the tour he seemed different, like a weight had been lifted....


I have already put my foot down and said that I will not give it out to people or talk about this amazing molecule with friends who do not know, for now on.

How do you feel about imparting your stash and info about to DMT to people?

 

[Global]

I used to do it more, but simply because I was around a group of friends who were open to the psychedelic experience in general. I suppose if more people were to come forth expressing an interest it would be a different matter. A lot goes into the assessment process as to who may be a wise candidate. Don't take me the wrong way when I say that considering DMT has the potential to give someone a good shake in their boots, some people are in need of a good shaking. If I don't think they're prepared to handle the integration of the experience, then it's an easy no, but once the enthusiasm issue (do they want to take it, and how badly and for what reasons) and my best estimated guess as to their ability to be able to handle and integrate the experience, then while there's a lot of room for just about anything to happen, I'm then simply allowing a person temporary access to that which they desire and are of which they are properly informed. I've introduced a lot of people to DMT, and there's something probably of a 90% "success" rate in terms of satisfaction. I never just give it to them and send them on their way. I always do it with them, and light it for them, and do just about everything they need including loading it up and all, so they have to worry about absolutely as little as possible (just inhaling and holding it in basically). In the rare case of a negative experience, talking about it with them and helping them get a grip on what they experienced (insofar as they can or will relay the details of their internal experience to me) as well as certain strategies such as using music or singing as a means to positively charge the experience as well as other "distraction" strategies can prove most beneficial.

 

[nareen]

A similar thing happened to a friend of mine who I dosed for the first time.

He came back shook up and said that it was a very negative experience. It showed him many ways how he had been negative or treated people unfair in his life.

Bit of an eye opener for him but I think it done him the world of good tbh.

 

[MomentOfTruth]

CrackedFractal and Myself have gone undercover with the DMTalks.

We learned really quick that people aren't ready to respect the molecule. Not one of the people that we shared it with had put in the years of research/reading/experience that i think is required to understand the importance of DMT. This may sound arrogant but we have repeatedly had our souls tread on by these un appreciative, disrespectful jerks.

Everytime we went through the WHOLE talk with the person, including how to do it, intentions, what to expect(without trying to direct the experience), explaining to lay down and close your eyes and don't try to get up and walk around and talk to people... blah blah... every time it would turn into some idiot circus where people were getting in each others faces and screaming while they were in DMT land, or talking about drawing on peoples faces while they were out on the DMT trip. And if it wasn't that, it was just a matter of being totally ridiculed and looked at like we're some sort of crazy eccentric psychopaths for feeling the way that we do about DMT because to them its "just another drug".

As you can imagine, after all of the years of work/study and the generosity of offering such an amazing experience to these people, and having them blatantly disrespect everything that we tried to share with them, we are DONE.

As far as i'm concerned, i no longer have DMT and will not have it again.

 

[3rdI]

is it your friends who have done these things?

 

[MomentOfTruth]

People that we thought were friends. People who we have shared a multitude of life experiences with over the years. People who we thought would appreciate and try to learn from the experience. Instead it was treated like a psychedelic whip-it. Reminded me of what goons did to Salvia on youtube.

 

[SpaceSeek]

People that we thought were friends. People who we have shared a multitude of life experiences with over the years. People who we thought would appreciate and try to learn from the experience. Instead it was treated like a psychedelic whip-it. Reminded me of what goons did to Salvia on youtube.

Some people have no idea what they are using to use it. If that makes sense. Being mad/angry/frustrated will only hurt yourself. Your responsible for yourself and no one else.

I see where you are coming from also. Now you have the choice share or to withhold.
Your choice.

You must have compassion and patience for this type of person(s); they'll know what you meant, when they cross-over. As is known, DMT is released during the death-phase.

 

[Muk]

I find myself uncomfortable sharing DMT outside of a festival setting. DMT is powerful, and the idea of someone wigging out in my own home just isnt appealing to me.


As for dmt being released during death...pure conjecture has no place in science.