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StarButterfly

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Experiments with rue have shown aloud best results, than with Caapi or Aurorix. But after 4 trip I has noticed strengthened
urination, including at night. I has noticed unpleasant sensation in area of coccyx, it is not assured, a back pain or kidneys, it is necessary to go to the doctor.
How much harmfully is 3 g harmalas once a week?
Whether will relieve of negative effects garmaline extraction with vinegar and salt?
It is how much effective such extraction, how many g to take?
Can it is necessary to return to research Caapi?
Through what is the time after ritual it is possible to eat cheese?
 
3 grams of Rue once a week is plenty safe, no harm at all. I took Rue and Harmala extracts, heavy dosages for the most part, with Mimosa/Acacia daily/near daily since 2012 to about mid-2015 or so, and then took a break from the DMT and took heavy dosages of the Rue/Harmalas daily for 8 months, been to the doctor a few times since, all is well. No worries. Harmalas/Rue are pretty safe physically, you would need to take so much more than you could consume (because you'd most likely vomit it all back up) before you could reach toxicity levels or harm your liver or kidneys or anything like that. So no worries, you're fine. If you wanna still schedule a doctors visit for reassurance, go ahead, but i'm certain you're fine, at least from the Harmalas/Rue.
 
3 grams of RUE/week is substantial but by no means a huge amount. I don't know a ton about it, but i doubt that would cause you issues-normally.

3 grams HARMALAS on the other hand is quite a bit. I'm guessing it's a translation error, but i would not be surprised at those amounts of something negative occurred.

You shouldn't have any trouble with cheese at all with RIMAs like harmalas.
 
StarButterfly said:
What you mean? Sirian rue = peganum harmala. I eat seeds. In my country we also name it grave grass, so sweet.
Nevermind. Iu understand English isn't your first language, i misread your post. You talk about both Syrian rue and harmalas, making no distinction between the two. As I'm sure you know rue is a plant containing a percentage of it's weight being harmalas in the single digits. Harmalas are the extracted and purified alkaloids themselves, the difference in potency is vast. 3 grams of rue is not 3 grams of harmala.

Again nevermind.
 
better off doing an extraction if this is going to be a regular thing. eating raw seeds contains undesirable alkaloids like vascine, vasicinone which the salt extraction specifically removes, also allows you to not have to digest so much plant oils, lignin etc. The nausea will be substantially reduced.
 
The taste will certainly be less of an issue if you aren't drinking rue tea... but i don't think there is any evidence other than shulgins "gut feeling " (a gut that was probably inhibited at the time mind you) that the other non harmala alkaloids are harmful...


Harmalas everyday should be fine... they seem to be for me anyways.
 
fathomlessness said:
better off doing an extraction if this is going to be a regular thing. eating raw seeds contains undesirable alkaloids like vascine, vasicinone which the salt extraction specifically removes, also allows you to not have to digest so much plant oils, lignin etc. The nausea will be substantially reduced.

Those other alkaloids are actually desirable, by me anyways. There's nothing wrong with them, they just shouldn't be consumed by pregnant women, there's no good reason imo/ime to remove those alkaloids. Also these compounds aren't toxic, and they help with bronchodilation which really comes in handy during these experiences.
 
Been taking the equivalent of 5-8 grams of Harmalas daily for 90 days in a row now. Along with 20-40 mg DMT dissolved in vinegar for the same time period...The way i do it, i boil 500 grams Syrian Rue for 3x 3 hours and then reduce the total liquid to 500 ml, so that 1 ml of liquid equals 1 gram of raw Syrian Rue. I then filter and filter the remaining 500 ml until i am sure that most unwanted tannins and other substances have been removed.

I drink 5-8 ml of this liquid daily along with DMT. What can i say, best 90 days of my life and many herbs that were not working for me in the past or had worked with little success, work very well now. At this time period i have checked on my liver and blood tests came back totally normal and fine. I intend on continuing for as long as i feel that it benefits me.
 
Yeah, basically this is it, daily Pharma for 90 days. And about every 15 days or less i do a Pharma trip of 4 grams Rue+120-150 mg DMT. I am going to write more about my experience so far in the not so distant future.
 
Locoboy said:
Yeah, basically this is it, daily Pharma for 90 days. And about every 15 days or less i do a Pharma trip of 4 grams Rue+120-150 mg DMT. I am going to write more about my experience so far in the not so distant future.
Looking forward to read :thumb_up:
 
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