ik this isnt about dmt so im sorry but does anyone on here know of a fair priced tek to grow a bulk(ounce or more idk, im new to this), thats preferably easy. although if its hard tek but still thoroughly instructed i will follow it step by step so please suggest any where i can grow bulk, i already have the spore syringes on the way.
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good tek for bulk mushies?
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Large scale production of mushrooms is covered in Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms and The Mushroom Cultivator. Mycelium Running is good too.
Those three books address the nuances and strategies that come with troubleshooting larger scale projects. The best thing to do might be to focus on growing on smaller scale and then scaling that up.
Experience may be the best teacher with growing mushrooms.
Those three books address the nuances and strategies that come with troubleshooting larger scale projects. The best thing to do might be to focus on growing on smaller scale and then scaling that up.
Experience may be the best teacher with growing mushrooms.
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If you have a pressure cooker search for a monotub tek if not search for the PF TEK.
I Never searched the nexus foruns for shrooms there might be something in here but I would go to shroomery.org you will find everything you need.
You can also check the willymyco videos he has everything you might need on vimeo.
I Never searched the nexus foruns for shrooms there might be something in here but I would go to shroomery.org you will find everything you need.
You can also check the willymyco videos he has everything you might need on vimeo.
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Another good read is "The Magic Mushroom Growers' Guide" by L.G. Nicholas and Kerry Ogame.
Presumably the spore syringes are for some strain of Psilocybe cubensis, in which case some kind of grain or wild bird seed in a few quart jars will get you along towards your goal very nicely.
Presumably the spore syringes are for some strain of Psilocybe cubensis, in which case some kind of grain or wild bird seed in a few quart jars will get you along towards your goal very nicely.
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Another good book (for beginners) is "The Psilocybin Mushroom Bible" but Paul Stamets' books mentioned above will give you a deeper understanding.
I grow mushrooms in bulk, I have a tiny grow room with controlled temperature (electric heater and thermostat). There I have grow boxes and rye grain jars.
The most practical item is the pressure cooker - I purchased the 30 quart ALL AMERICAN and it fits 15 jars at once. It is absolutely indispensible as it is able to take lots of jars and sterilise them at 15 psi (121 °C), which many other pressure cookers can't achieve.
This is my growing routine:
- make agar dishes, transfer spores from prints; wait 2-4 weeks for the spores to germinate and make mycelium
- transfer mycelium to liquid culture (honey solution); wait 3-4 weeks for the mycelium to grow
- sterilise and inoculate rye jars; wait 4 weeks to colonize
- pasteurise bulk substrate, make grow boxes; wait 12 days to colonize
- put the boxes in fruiting conditions
- harvest the flush, rehydrate, repeat 3-5 times
I usually take the strongest mushrooms at make spore prints off them for next harvest.
To save time, it is possible to inoculate new grain jars from already colonized ones (grain transfer). This works great. There are several shortcuts one can make, like cloning, but the success depends on your skills and sterile enough conditions.
I dry the mushrooms in a large food dehydrator for at least 20 hours at 49 °C to get them cracker dry, then store them in vacuum sealed bags. They are very potent!
If you start growing, I would advice to start with something simple, like PF Tek, to get a hang of the mushroom life cycle, then move on to rye, popcorn or whatever substrate your specific mushroom needs.
I grow mushrooms in bulk, I have a tiny grow room with controlled temperature (electric heater and thermostat). There I have grow boxes and rye grain jars.
The most practical item is the pressure cooker - I purchased the 30 quart ALL AMERICAN and it fits 15 jars at once. It is absolutely indispensible as it is able to take lots of jars and sterilise them at 15 psi (121 °C), which many other pressure cookers can't achieve.
This is my growing routine:
- make agar dishes, transfer spores from prints; wait 2-4 weeks for the spores to germinate and make mycelium
- transfer mycelium to liquid culture (honey solution); wait 3-4 weeks for the mycelium to grow
- sterilise and inoculate rye jars; wait 4 weeks to colonize
- pasteurise bulk substrate, make grow boxes; wait 12 days to colonize
- put the boxes in fruiting conditions
- harvest the flush, rehydrate, repeat 3-5 times
I usually take the strongest mushrooms at make spore prints off them for next harvest.
To save time, it is possible to inoculate new grain jars from already colonized ones (grain transfer). This works great. There are several shortcuts one can make, like cloning, but the success depends on your skills and sterile enough conditions.
I dry the mushrooms in a large food dehydrator for at least 20 hours at 49 °C to get them cracker dry, then store them in vacuum sealed bags. They are very potent!
If you start growing, I would advice to start with something simple, like PF Tek, to get a hang of the mushroom life cycle, then move on to rye, popcorn or whatever substrate your specific mushroom needs.
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blue.magic seems a super resource. "Bulk" work takes some practice with the simpler methods, prior. "PF" cake tek is a super intro, allowing spore inoculation directly to fruiting substrate, skipping, agar and liquid culture steps. Cakes can be fruited directly, cased in aggregate and fruited, or used to spawn bulk substrate. It's all good, matter of skill and scale. Also introduces a body to careful practice that can be useful training for DMT extraction teks, should that be desired. Check out this Nexus contribution: Grow Guide - Magic for the Masses - Cultivation - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus
Also see: fungifun.org, for the simplest tek that works.
Peace
Also see: fungifun.org, for the simplest tek that works.
Peace
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I would start off using shoeboxes. It will allow you to experiment with different substrates and control everything. I like to use 2 quarts of spawn and 2 quarts of bulk substrate for each shoebox. A good PC to start off with is the Presto 23 quart. Although wild bird seeds work extremely well I would probably start off using rye berries. You can find most of your ingredients on shroomsupply.com. You can learn a lot on shroomery.org, mushroomvideos.com, willy myco on vimeo and other people on YouTube. Dont just listen to one person because almost everyone gives both good and bad advice. Learn a little bit from everyone and do what's best for you.
www.shroomery.org
The Varieties of Shoebox Experience - Mushroom Cultivation - Shroomery Message Board
The shoebox tek is designed around the humble Sterilite 1642 6 Quart Storage Box. These boxes have a picture of a shoe on the label, providing the name shoebox. They have an opaque white lid.
www.shroomery.org
Let's Grow Mushrooms! by Marc R Keith - Let's Grow Mushrooms
Let's Grow Mushrooms-Download mushroom cultivation Instructional Video Set by Marc R Keith
www.mushroomvideos.com
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Like blue.magic said I would start off with the PF tek for your first grow. Do yourself a favor and buy a pressure cooker from the very beginning. You don't need to spend a fortune on your first pressure cooker. A Presto 23 quart works extremely well and it's only $70. Although you dont need a pressure cooker for the PF tek you will still get better results. I wish I would have purchased a pressure cooker from the very beginning so don't make the same mistake. Do yourself a favor and make a still air box! Here is a video on the PF tek. If you follow this video you'll have mushrooms. Never go cheap when it comes to spores!!! The only spore vendors I recommend are sporeworks and mushrooms.com....
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so basically i think imma do the rez effect tek, it seems hella simple and cheap for bulk. i already got the WBS now i need verm and a pressure cooker then im chillin.
is there a way to steralize the jars without a pressure cooker? those are expensive, i saw that you can steam/boil the jars but i need a tek for that.
is there a way to steralize the jars without a pressure cooker? those are expensive, i saw that you can steam/boil the jars but i need a tek for that.
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Quite right, steaming jars is no effective way to sterilise them. Use the pressure cooker - cutting corners and risking contamination is a waste of effort. Do yourself a favour and work as cleanly and meticulously as possible. You are preparing a sacrament, after all.
P.S. In view of the difference in both fruit size and yield between cased grain and PF, I'd say go for the grain every time.
P.S. In view of the difference in both fruit size and yield between cased grain and PF, I'd say go for the grain every time.
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aP trick said:
You can get away with steam cooking only on small PF tek (brown rice) jars, but definitely not on grains.
Grain is full of mold and you need to exterminate 99+% of it, otherwise a tiniest contamination will quickly overgrow mycelium.
A heavy duty pressure cooker is an absolute must. You can buy a used All American or similar good PC which will last you a long time.
I once tried to do tyndallization, which is an old method that uses only heat, not pressure, but it takes several days to perform and I guess it is impractical or impossible to do for sterilising grains.
Please do a few batches of growing and you will soon see how important sterility is. I tried cutting corners here are there and it always resulted in at least 1/4 of the grain to be contaminated by mold.
