Goop/skin during reducing stage of a/b

[Thoraxx]

Heyo
This is my first post so greetings to everyone on the nexus, you guys helped me alot

Right now im on my second mhrb extraction, using about 300g this time
Last time i realized that working with 5+ litres of acidic extract is pretty annoying so now i want to reduce it
Prepped my bark by freezing then PCing and simmering for about an hour in citric acid solution, planning to do a BLAB, poured off the first batch into another pot and its reducing right now while the bark is soaking for the second time

My problem is with the goop that keeps forming ontop of the reducing solution, like a skin on pudding. This stuff is slowing down evaporation and creates boilover so i feel like i should discard it
I think its just plant matter/oils, but are there alot of goodies in there too ?
If its oils, would it absorb dmt salts? its still heavy acidic solution
Right now i just rake it off and put it in with the remaining bark, so it doesnt really matter but i have to filter the reduced extract sooner or later

Any ideas ?
I know this is propably just nitpicking over miniscule amounts, because im sitting in my "lab" in the cellar and kinda bored, but hey for science

 

[endlessness]

I do not think it´s mainly alkaloids but since the alkalods are in the liquid, then it will surely have at least a bit of it. Usually I just occasionally stir with an object to brake the skin and try to leave the broken skin in the pot, or if you take it out, you can put it in a glass or something and later do a small water wash to get any alkaloids that might be around that.

 

[Thoraxx]

Aye, just stirring and redissolving the skin periodically worked fine ,i spent half the day watching my brews simmer and reduce tho

I did notice something else tho
After doing multiple PC/simmer pulls of 300g MHRB and reducing it all down to about 300ml i can clearly see a second layer in the acidic water extract, that never occured to me when i didnt reduce the brew

I'm thinking about doing a defat with cold acetone, shouldnt remove any of the DMT citrate, but what about the other alkaloids?
The next step would be to pull with limonene and salt out with FASI, i have plenty of freebase left from my first extraction

Any problems with pulling lots of fat together with the alkaloids?

 

[DansMaTete]

First, i don't think you can use acetone to defat as acetone and water mix together.

Mimosa is not supposed to have much fat. Anyway, you can get rid of fat/oil with a mini A/B on the result of your extraction.

Just realised you want to salt limonene so, normaly, it shouldn't have much fat precipiting. I could be wrong as i never used limo, so fellows, chime in and give us the light!



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[DansMaTete]

it was a double post^^



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[Thoraxx]

Ah right, acetone was kinda stupid idea
I guess ill try cleaning it up like described here

Vovin's tek - DMT-Nexus Wiki

wiki.dmt-nexus.me

Decanting followed by a single naptha defat, 3x seems like overkill

I realize now my mistake was not filtering the brew before reducing, by now its so thick theres no way to get it trough a decent filter and that just makes everything messy

 

[DansMaTete]

I don't think a defat is necessary if you pull with limonene and salt it because fats/oil will stay in the limo.

Happy extraction !

 

[Thoraxx]

I realize now my mistake was not filtering the brew before reducing, by now its so thick theres no way to get it trough a decent filter and that just makes everything messy

That was a major understatement lol
After i left about 300ml of extract in the fridge overnight, i realized that the two visible phases werent water and oil, but a small water layer and about 3/4 thick goop
I decanted the liquid and did the freebasing+limo extraction on it, i used fresh limo on the first pull, thats salting right now
Gonna use some old washed limo for the next pulls, and see how it goes

I put all the remaining acid extract back in with the bark and topped it off with a bunch of old extract i had left from my first run a few weeks ago
That stuff got contaminated with IPA tho, i hope i can boil it all off when i reduce it again, this time making sure to filter many times before its too thick

Thanks everyone