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Graft of the day
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Spiralout
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Hey,
Inyan I only have 3 trichocereus I can use as stock right now.... I have a couple trich grafted to pereskiopsis I plan on cutting soon and can use those as stock... Clearly the greater surface area using trichocereus as stock is the most important advantage it has over pereskiopsis I'm guessing?
I've never done an impale graft but I was just thinking that maybe it would be easier to do , rather than an areole graft, if I have to use pereskiopsis as stock. I will have to use mainly pereskiopsis for stock for most of my grafts but maybe I can get some trichs growing on them first...
The other variable is that I'll only have low light since it's the off season... It's going to be too cold to eave them outdoors soon... The main idea behind this is to get some growth on these during the off season and I figure if I have them as small grafts this will be doable... So I can get a single, worthy specimen cloned on a handful of stock and grown out a bit before spring... Then by end of next summer I'l have a small army of clones of that specimen..
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Inyan I only have 3 trichocereus I can use as stock right now.... I have a couple trich grafted to pereskiopsis I plan on cutting soon and can use those as stock... Clearly the greater surface area using trichocereus as stock is the most important advantage it has over pereskiopsis I'm guessing?
I've never done an impale graft but I was just thinking that maybe it would be easier to do , rather than an areole graft, if I have to use pereskiopsis as stock. I will have to use mainly pereskiopsis for stock for most of my grafts but maybe I can get some trichs growing on them first...
The other variable is that I'll only have low light since it's the off season... It's going to be too cold to eave them outdoors soon... The main idea behind this is to get some growth on these during the off season and I figure if I have them as small grafts this will be doable... So I can get a single, worthy specimen cloned on a handful of stock and grown out a bit before spring... Then by end of next summer I'l have a small army of clones of that specimen..
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Wakinyan
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Spiralout said:
If your Pereskiopsis have Trichocereus attached already... then you will get the added surface area and more importantly you won't have to cut the Pereskiopsis tissue out of your grafted scion when you get it the size that you want it. Leaving a bit of your desired Trichocereus atop the Trichocereus stock you have used will also help it to pup again resulting in many more babies.
If your limited by stock... then the fastest means to the ends by all means.
Wakinyan
Rising Star
pete666 said:
Documenting this particular batch was kind of an afterthought after caterpillars ate several of my earlier grafts of the same hybrid. Thus, I'm counting the day of birth of this batch from the time the parafilm was removed. I'd guesstimate actual age from time of graft to be about 7 days more.
Suffice it to say, these are not my fastest growing specimens and if any growth is occurring it is not worth mentioning yet. Sometimes you get runaway growth right away and other times not so much. Give it a little bit though and we will see how this batch compares to the last.
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Wakinyan said:
We should get this a bit standardized, otherwise everybodys stated age would mean something different. I am not planning to remove the parafilm at all for example, so this methodology is useless for me. What about counting from date of parafilm rupture? Is it identical to your parafilm removal?
Spiralout
Rising Star
Yes , rupture , removal = tomatoe , tomato; same thing ... Your not going to remove your parafilm till its ruptured (in most cases ..) if it has grow through the parafilm that is a sure sign you have successful connection. ..
I haven't posted anything in a while ... I'll see if i can post something today .
P.s. looks like you have some side branches to scratch off there Cat ... tpm hybrid looks great...
I haven't posted anything in a while ... I'll see if i can post something today .
P.s. looks like you have some side branches to scratch off there Cat ... tpm hybrid looks great...
pete666
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Ok, here is my first graft (macrogonus). First photo is the one I published in this topic few days ago, but here it is magnified. That was age 0 days.
Next image is from yesterday, 5 days old.
Sorry for having the parafilm there, my grafts will have it there always, I don't care how it looks and my rootstock is older, so it is better to leave it attached.
Next image is from yesterday, 5 days old.
Sorry for having the parafilm there, my grafts will have it there always, I don't care how it looks and my rootstock is older, so it is better to leave it attached.
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Spiralout
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Looking good.
No need to get rid of parafilm .. you should scratch off that red side shoot the Peres is trying to grow out , carefully enough that you don't move the parafilm and thus risk removing your scion ... just mutilate the thing if you can't entirely scratch it off safely ..
Be on the look out for these things because they'll come back intermittently and can grow out from any areole on the Peres ... sometimes they start out green or yellow too ..
No need to get rid of parafilm .. you should scratch off that red side shoot the Peres is trying to grow out , carefully enough that you don't move the parafilm and thus risk removing your scion ... just mutilate the thing if you can't entirely scratch it off safely ..
Be on the look out for these things because they'll come back intermittently and can grow out from any areole on the Peres ... sometimes they start out green or yellow too ..
pete666
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Yeah, this one has already been removed. As I am grafting, every day about 20 grafts, I realized recently it might be wise to remove not just the leaf, but whole areole, so maybe these offshoots would appear only lower, where the parafilm is not applied and it might stay more intact.
Removing whole areole has added value - all the bloody dangerous spines are removed too, so application of auxiliary parafilm is much safer.
Removing whole areole has added value - all the bloody dangerous spines are removed too, so application of auxiliary parafilm is much safer.
CatPharm
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Yea, the williamsii seem to be the slowest of the bunch, its been about 2 weeks since ive noticed any kind of growth. They also happen to be on my smallest peres, so ill put off doin anymore til these others get a bit healthier.
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Wakinyan
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CatPharm said:
The larger the Pereskiopsis the faster the growth is in general, but there also seems to be faster growth on younger new growth Pereskiopsis rather than older pieces. At least that is my experience. When the leaves of the Pereskiopsis are bright green from top to bottom and the growth on the Pereskiopsis has itself been rapidly growing...that is when I get my fastest growth on my scions as well. Timing is everything.
This recent batch was not grafted not the best I had as far as I'm concerned and I'm definitely paying the price for that in the form of slowed growth. I don't pretend to know or understand all the variables at play by any means, but those are the variables I associate with faster growth of scions.
I just noticed that one graft of yours was almost a side grafted seedling... more of an oblique cut you had on that one. I thought I'd mention that as it does not appear to matter whether you graft a seedling on its side, obliquely or right side up altogether so long as you leave an areole that it can push.
CatPharm
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I can assure u that was merely an accident. My eye sight is slowly getting away from me these days and then add onto that that ive brought a majority of my plants indoors now with new lighting, and im just happy i can see one areole to make a cut. :lol:
Also, i was definitely planning on a few grafts of the alberto-vojtechiis, i was really hopin to get to them before the end of the month. Either way, therell certainly be some photos added here when i can.
Also, i was definitely planning on a few grafts of the alberto-vojtechiis, i was really hopin to get to them before the end of the month. Either way, therell certainly be some photos added here when i can.