The real question is what is gravity, is it made up of particles (gravitrons) or what? Check out QM field theory if you re interested in gravity. Also look at general and special relativity. Check out the reality thread too.
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Matter is just one form of energy. In Q field theory everything is one, different particles,space and all forces are just distortions of the field. You should look into QM not everything is made out of matter. Furthermore matter is not what you think it is. It is not this solid thing made up of little particles it is much more strange and complex.
Photons are made of photons. Some times they act like waves other times they act like particles. They themselves are "elementary particle" but this is a view that s rapidly changing. Many of these ideas are mathematical approximations that explain our observations but in actually exist in a much different form.
I can recommend some books if you like. i think you should read these things before you dwell further into these things. Reality is very interesting and very different from the classical view of the public.
the Tao of physics
The dancing Wu Li Masters
Quantum Enigma
The physics of Consciousness
That should get you started
I can recommend some books if you like. i think you should read these things before you dwell further into these things. Reality is very interesting and very different from the classical view of the public.
the Tao of physics
The dancing Wu Li Masters
Quantum Enigma
The physics of Consciousness
That should get you started
No. Matter is not electromagnetic waves, neither are a lot of other forces. Matter can be a wave (QM) but it is not an electromag wave. There is no quick answer you need to read into these things. No one has the answer you are looking for. Furthermore Godels theorem and the Heisenberg's uncertainty principle show that our ability to understand and study reality has inherent flaws that are inevitable. And thus we can never prove certain things. or the truth of our theorems. Look at quantum field theory this is an attempt to explain reality this is the closest thing to what you are asking for. If you are interested in these things as you seem to be you really need to read.
I think energy is even a cruder level
maybe information is more like it.. or even deeper. I think the ultimate level can never be described
maybe information is more like it.. or even deeper. I think the ultimate level can never be described
Check out the reality thread. Information is a better word. However the truth is we have no idea, and words are only descriptions, or symbols, of our observations, true reality is something we can never truly know or see. We only experience our brians interpretation of this information. This is a very disconnected strategy.
I don't know if the graviton will ever be found. However, at some moment, at least with our current models, a particle will be OR directly be held responsible for gravity OR be held responsible for transitory effects of mass on space-time OR some 'space-time' particle would have to be invented, itself. This illustrates somewhat, why there has not been found a place yet for gravity, within the standardmodel. The standardmodel predicts that all forces that do have a place within it would be united at circumstances like at the beginning of our universe, or other high energy circumstances. It is tempting to believe that this will also count for gravity, then. Fact is that in the current model there is no place for gravity.
At some moment this will have to be dealt with, since you can not deny the effects of gravity and they will have to be explained somehow. So that's why at some moment a particle will have to be invented or the model will have to be transformed.
At some moment this will have to be dealt with, since you can not deny the effects of gravity and they will have to be explained somehow. So that's why at some moment a particle will have to be invented or the model will have to be transformed.
^^Do you know what a particle accelorator is and what they do?
Google CERN or the large hadron collider if you don't.
Google CERN or the large hadron collider if you don't.
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I don't believe the graviton is on it's menu, though.
Yea I am not sure I just think cheeto could do well to read up on it not so much for gravity but just to understand how they test for these things. But they do want to figure out why gravity is weaker then other 3 forces with the machine. Perhaps by looking for extra dimensions of space.
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Hey Bufoman, I just bought the Dancing Wu Li Masters. I read the Tao of Physics and loved it..30 years ago..may have to read it again!! I just finished reading The Equation that Couldn't be Solved. That was a great book for the struggling mathematical layman like me who is still wants to try and grasp the cutting edge concepts of physics and mathematics.