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I want to learn more about gravity. I've been thinking about it alot lately, i would like to do further experiments, i have done some, pretty kool to i might add.


I know i don't know shit about the physics behind this, but this is a starting point on what it looks like right now before many people step in to correct me.


My thoughts on it right now...

My personal probably wrong deffinition:

Gravity - The result of existence of mass in space.


1) Does more mass = more contained energy?

*Hydrogen contains more energy than water, water has more mass than hydrogen; Correct?

So no, more mass does not = more energy. But counting that mass does contain energy, more mass will add to energy.

My whole reason for thinking on this is, is gravity to a result of mass or energy. Like gravity would be the energy field of the existing energy contained in the mass. I think it has more to do with energy than mass, as the neutrons and electrons act as if there in orbit. Also my theory is that every physical object which exist has its own gravity, its the amount of energy that dictates how strong it is.


I did a little experiment i would like to go further into, i think its possible to somewhat set up a solar system in a bowl of water. I put a big heavy center peice in the middle of a bowl of water and got a light peice of floating plastic, put it in the bowl and saw that it experiences gravity from the center peice, once the object was within 1cm. of the center peice its like a comment crashing to the ground, as it draws closer and closer the rate it travels increases.
 
Now i'm going to see what wiki has to say.


One funky aspect i see already is gravity is very unlike magnetics. If it worked the same as magnetics then objects with more mass would be more atracted to earth, they are in the sence that they are more heavy, but if you drop two balls, (1)lb and (10)lb, they will fall at the same rate. If one ball(More mass) where more attracted than the other it would drop quicker. So how can gravity make mass more heavy, but just as attractive as less mass.
 
remember relativity. E (energy) = M (mass) * C squared (the speed of light squared). So yes energy and mass are entirely related. Mass is essentially lots of energy condensed. Thats why atom bombs and nuclear energy has so much power behind it.

According to relativity gravity acts by creating warps in space time. This is what makes it attractive. Imagine a bowling bowl on a sheet thats being held up at all 4 ends. Thats kind of what gravity is doing to space time and yes the gravity is a result of more mass.

My whole reason for thinking on this is, is gravity to a result of mass or energy. Like gravity would be the energy field of the existing energy contained in the mass. I think it has more to do with energy than mass, as the neutrons and electrons act as if there in orbit. Also my theory is that every physical object which exist has its own gravity, its the amount of energy that dictates how strong it is.
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Mass does dictate the strength of a gravitational field. The problem with gravity is that its not incorprated into quantum mechanics and thus is difficult to describe at small scales. Its possible there is a particle called the gravitron which is responsible for gravity but as of yet is has never been detected. Also its much weaker then the particles associated with the other 3 fundamental forces making it a big puzzle and problem in quantum mechanics. Anyway on large scales relativity theory describes gravity.
 
Ahh, i see the connection in mass and energy.

I don't really like the sheet theory, i've heard it many times as an explanation, my only problems with it is space is 3D, and that would only explain if space where flat. Think about it, the heavy ball in the middle would cause the planets to increase in height the further the got from the center of the big mass, but thats not true to the planets. I wounder alot of things about it, Like though theres not exactly a flat orbit around the sun it does tend to flaten out for the most part(I THink), but like with sat's we put in orbit, they do not have to line up with our orbiting planets on this flat distorted sheet of space, so even though it does appear orbits tend to flatten out, can they not? Can you have a planet that orbits the other way, to form a cross of orbits? Also, in all systems, do they all orbit in the same direction, clockwise?
 
I'm having i hard time with this, like with light, its a form of energy, but how would you calculate its mass. Energy = MC², so for there to be energy it has to be made of mass. So if you could stop photons from moving and collect them in a big ball would they have gravity?

So Energy distorts space, even light? A beam of light has a gravitational pull?

Mass is a collection of matter, is energy also a collection of matter, in any and every form?
 
thats gay, i wrote i long reply i feel like not repeating and now it want let me even paste it in a post and post it, but it will let me reply anything else...arrr!!
 
well once again i wrote alot and couldn't post it....fuck!!!!

But as a short reply, If Energy is Mass and mass is energy, then light has mass, because light is a form of energy.
 
Light in its basic is a Photon partical. It contains no mass, yet exists in space, it can't merge with space so it must distort space. So it is Mass and not energy that gives off gravity. Whats the difference between a Photon partical and something with mass? Is it matter? Are things of mass made of matter while things like a photon are made of what?
 
Matter is another form of energy. These things are not so clear. Energy can take many forms one of them is matter. Space is not a fluid and is not distorted in the sense you are referring to. Space time can be distorted by mass (gravity).
 
i problem i hit for me to understand is the photon, it exists, but what are its building blocks, i thought everything in existence was made of matter, but what about photons, what are they made of?
 
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